Posted: 12/27/2009 8:02:47 PM EDT
| What should i get ? Mil surplus, BSA, Or some uber cool ultralight backpack hiker kit ? What is the one you use? |
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Snow Peak Titamium, nice and light.
Jet Boil, its pretty handy. You need the gas cans too though. Some metal spork. you probably already have a knife or a knife in a multi tool. I just used my jetboil today at work, made some coffee in it. I use the snow peak set at work occasionally too, I have been carrying one or the other or both in my EDC/bug out backpack. |
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I love my jetboil, and it has spoiled me for hunting trips, mountain house food is so easy to prep and SO little mess.
If we are going to setup camp, I'll always bring my heavy ass dutch oven, but if not I'll bring my jetboil. Just your run of the mill surplus/boyscout mess kit will be fine, even if you run out of fuel, you'll still be able to heat the aluminum up fast enough to get your food cooked quick enough. |
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I have an older version of one of these:
http://www.ultralightdesigns.com/products/cooking/evernew13-pot.html The size of this pot seems about perfect, and it's light. My eating/cooking utensil is a MSR titanium spoon. A stainless steel spoon out of the kitchen would be fine. I much prefer a spoon over a spork. I would avoid the "unbreakable" lexan spoons, as they will break. I have several different types of stoves for different conditions, but the one I would recommend to start with is the Trangia. Alcohol stoves are cheap and quiet, and with the Trangia, you can store fuel in the stove. Here is one of many Youtube videos on the Trangia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHYLXp562-Y Here are various Trangia stoves: http://www.campsaver.com/itemlist.asp?Cc=stovealchol&Bc=trangia |
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I use a jet boil and mountain house meals in my BOB. It has me spoiled. I can cook way more mountain house than I need for 7 days with one fuel cell and I never have to clean up the pouches I eat from. One mountain house is just about more than I can eat when I am really hungry and its not terrible.
I can also boil meat if I have to cook a squirrel or rabbit without making a fire. The cup could be used over a fire if the fuel runs out. I might put a second fuel cell into the pack just for good measure. I can also heat water for my nalgene to put into my sleeping bag in a very short time. |
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I use a Sigg cookset that I can pack my SVEA123 stove in. I have used this set since 1973.
I also have a MSR Whisperlite International I rescued from a Gander Mtn. store. It was a display model, had no box and no fuel pump. Called MSR and they sent me a small parts kit. I found the new improved pump for $12.00 online. Grabbed a large MSR fuel bottle on sale at REI, had a small dent and a scratch. Total cost about $30.00. |
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and/or Heineken cooking system; Tinny has a lot of good homemade ideas.
http://www.minibulldesign.com/myadventure/index.php?itemid=799 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WP456Uf7e4&feature=channel and another good one if you're into ultra lightweight: http://www.hikinghq.net/ look at the above sites for some initial ideas. I usually use a Primus OmniFuel Stove with a GSI s/s cup & grease pot. thinking of trying the Heineken Pot system with the soda can / cat can stoves and/or a Sierra stove back-up the SnoPeak stuff is nice, even if you don't go titanium take a look at the cooking gear at Campmor.com MSR, GSI, Coleman, SnoPeak, etc. |
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Swiss ranger Volcano from cheaperthandirt.com- $10. Cup, bottle and stove all for ten bucks hard to beat. I had someone give me a $100 gas stove, really nice for xmas that I am returning as I see nothing wrong with the Swiss ranger. It fits into a nalgene case.
Link http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/WX130-1.html |
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For several years, I have been using a MSR Pocket Rocket stove. The burner and fuel canister pack into the Ti one quart cup. Weight is about 15 ounces.
Lately, I have been playing with two other pieces of cooking gear. A friend gave me a Military Trangia. It works great, is bullet proof, but heavy. Weight is over two pounds, and a container of HEET adds to the bulk and weight. My BIL gave me an old SVEA gasoline stove. It weighs one pound, two ounces, and again, you have to cart along a flask of liquid fuel. I find the SVEA cranky and difficult to fire up when it is cold. It also wastes fuel while it 'settles down' before it cooks with a consistent heat. Of the three, I prefer to use the MSR stove. Sets up faster, no liquid fuel, works every time, and boils two cups of water in about three min. 
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Quoted: a quick note about alcohol stoves; they do not work in cold temps. I have tried mine in under 20 degree weather no luck. I don't know how cold they can operate to before not working. Just last night, I boiled 6 cups of water with my trangia stove in 10°F weather. It runs off of alcohol. |
| i've been looking for a good mess kit myself. i have a canteen cup but i am looking for a kit that includes a small frying pan to add to my kit. the best one i found for my needs is this so far. |
| I would stay away from most of the uber-cool backpacking stuff. Look for something simple and durable. I do most of my cooking on an MSR pocket rocket or on an open fire, so I prefer stainless steel. The MSR pocket rocket burns very hot in the center of your pot, which can be bad for anodizing or other non-stick coatings. With stainless steel or other uncoated steels, you can set your pot directly into a fire without fear of damage. |
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For several years, I have been using a MSR Pocket Rocket stove. The burner and fuel canister pack into the Ti one quart cup. Weight is about 15 ounces. Lately, I have been playing with two other pieces of cooking gear. A friend gave me a Military Trangia. It works great, is bullet proof, but heavy. Weight is over two pounds, and a container of HEET adds to the bulk and weight. My BIL gave me an old SVEA gasoline stove. It weighs one pound, two ounces, and again, you have to cart along a flask of liquid fuel. I find the SVEA cranky and difficult to fire up when it is cold. It also wastes fuel while it 'settles down' before it cooks with a consistent heat. Of the three, I prefer to use the MSR stove. Sets up faster, no liquid fuel, works every time, and boils two cups of water in about three min. http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt349/Knocky/Knocky%202010/BOBCooking.jpg I use the exact same MSR setup and love it! MSR Titan kettle, MSR Pocket Rocket, but I use an 8oz isopro fuel canister (which fits perfectly inside the titanium kettle. I've used this setup for about a year now on various camping, hunting, fishing, and float trips. It's quick, lightweight, and there's very little cleanup. I always carry my Esbit stove with four fuel tabs inside of it as a backup. It is also a great little stove. And it's extremely lightweight. |
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I have several options including canteen cups, triangia, boy scout, jet boil etc. This summer I tried the 1.5 liter jet boil pot.
1.5 liter jet boil It was just large enough to use as a fry pan for one person, in my case a tasty breakfast bass, mre hash browns and a couple of eggs 
I can nest some salt/pepper, cooking oil, sponge/scratch pad, and wash cloth in with the stove, fuel, stand, etc. Middkid |
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+1 on a JetBoil system. I have the JetBoil personal cook system. It's a stove and mess kit in one small, light package. It's for a BOB, limited time and travel. Most of my BOB food is lightweight, dehydrated food that needs only hot water added to its package.
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| Perhaps this is incorrect thought, but with the nature of a 72 hr kit I went simple, light, & cheap. I made a supercat stove out of a cat food can, a small squirt bottle of alcohol, a cheap small aluminum pot from a coleman camp cooking set, and aluminum flashing for a windscreen I've got everyhting but the pot nested in plastic screw top container. total investment is less than $10.00, maybe less than $5 if you substituted HD aluminum foil for the aluminum flashing.It'll heat my drink, or boil water for a MH entree, or ramen. For a day ot two it's fine. If I'm out there for longer I'll probably wish I had more.supercat stove how-to |
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Tag, because this is where my (extremely small) spare income will now be going. I've been collecting mess kits from my local second hand store. (Dirt cheap ) IM me your address and I'll send you a care package. I have a couple of dozen Palco, Boy & Girl Scout kits as well as some really nice other commercial and military kits. No charge, just my way of saying thank you for your contributions to the site. 
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Tag, because this is where my (extremely small) spare income will now be going. I've been collecting mess kits from my local second hand store. (Dirt cheap ) IM me your address and I'll send you a care package. I have a couple of dozen Palco, Boy & Girl Scout kits as well as some really nice other commercial and military kits. No charge, just my way of saying thank you for your contributions to the site.
You're a good man weptek911!
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I use a short and tall t-cup that fit around nalgene bottles (the short one holds the alcohol stove and some esbit tablets, the big one goes around a bottle.)
a couple pics ont he first page GHB shots of it in action cooking in a stainless nalgene bottle instead of the cup more stove shots stove is something like 2.5oz, T-cups not much more, T-spork almost weightless. Stainless Nalgene bottle I'd have to look up, but worth it to me as the way I cook is to rehydrate a meal with hot water made at the end of the last meal. Then 6 hours later just reheat in the bottle. With the bottle just cracked it takes a lot less fuel to heat than if I had an open container or ever container with normal sit-on-top lid. This leaves the T-cup for coffee. Super-light. Somewhere in the thread I list the fuel requirements for each meal/day. It’s half the weight of so called light systems, less than ¼ the weight of military systems. |
| Looked it up the “standard” stainless bottle weighs 12.9 oz it’s great for making meals for 2, I will be trading it for a “shorty” for solo work, which weighs 7.9oz and then will be carrying another full sized plastic nalgene again. 2X 38oz of water plus the food rehydrating in the shorty. Eat from the shorty, drink hot drinks from the T-cup. |
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found the weight data in the thread:
here is my cook gear, the stove weighs less than 3 oz. I used 6.4oz of 99% isopropyl alcohol to cook 6 meals for 2. Elevation at about 5000ft for 5 of the 6 meals one meal at 7000ft. Temps about average of 40. Also made about 8 cups of coffee and cocoa with that fuel. So about 12 dehydrated or freeze dried meals and 8 cups of coffee at 6.4 oz of fuel. Had 2.2 oz left so I could have went one more day. the normal bottle I carry is 16oz so for a lone person that would make a week of meals no problem. This is all not counting fires, which of course I would use in a survival situation but this was a protected area so only stoves. I plan on changing my stove for a side venting one from these guys below. The flames were too high and I was afraid of burning the lid on my guyot bottle, and that will be a bigger problem when I get the stubby bottle to do single person meals in. As stated before I also mixed dirt into the fuel to slow the burn down a little and it did keep the flame down to a more manageable level. http://www.minibulldesign.com/ |
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Swiss ranger Volcano from cheaperthandirt.com- $10. Cup, bottle and stove all for ten bucks hard to beat. I had someone give me a $100 gas stove, really nice for xmas that I am returning as I see nothing wrong with the Swiss ranger. It fits into a nalgene case. Link http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/WX130-1.html <Pay no attention to the reviews on this product- CTD> 12/29/2009 I purchased two sets of these they were sent fast, but they both looked like they had been at the bottom of a pallet that was run over with a tank! Both had several dents and were smashed, I called CTD and they said that they were non returnable, I said they were dammaged before being sent, they sent me two more sets, as replacements, they were both in the same condition! Please don't sell me the junk ones anymore! As far as the stoves yes they work great, but these last four I recieved from CTD are useless! 12/8/2009 I received a cook set that was not in excellent condition, and I intend to return it for another one. The bottle is dented and has a pin hole. Also, the bottle is not double-walled or insulated as indicated in the advertisment, it is just a single wall aluminum bottle. 3/21/2008 Works great but mine came bent. It runs great on wood chips and gets hot very fast but if the pot or pan is larger than the top it likes to tip. It was one of the best 4 bucks i've ever spent. <Even though there is no inflation we had to jack the price to 9.97- CTD> 
Looks like the latest batch of French stoves was not up to par. I use a USGI stove (Model 1950?) Looks sort of like this Model 1947 
Link for "camp cooking". Pretty interesting. |
| Use a USGI canteen, canteen cup, and canteen stove all packed up in the canteen carrier. The government does not get things right very often, but this system is pretty damn good. Can mount the canteen to my pack or hang it from my belt. Have an Esbit for back up and several fuel bars. Further back up would be a fire, just stick the cup in the fire to heat water. For my BOB, I like to keep it simple. |
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I use my old GI canteen cup(s). http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/willardri/IMG_3474.jpg What axe is this? And... I have an Aluminum kettle that I use. It's awesome, even though I get crap for having aluminum. I also have been using the Trail stove as well with it. Only deal with the aluminum is i expected it to nest in my nalgene. haha |