Posted: 10/23/2009 3:21:43 AM EDT
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I'm thinking to myself if SHTF and you start running your place on generators, what's to stop someone from coming along and taking it?
I never see any pics, please post if you do, of any kind of security for your backup power source. Just a side note question, with those small Honda's or those like it is there a way to setup some kind of fuel line to a larger tank? |
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I have a Powermate the 6350 max. What to stop somone from taking it? Well then I use mine I put it on the back deck. So they would have to have the balls to come in the gate , down the driveway and around the back of the house. Then onto my deck
Fenced and gated sensor flood lights 122lb dog up onto the back deck with another flood light Chain Lock remington 1100 loaded with 00 buck 
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My genset is in a skid. It has a 30 gal diesel fuel tank on top of the generator within the inclosure. It's a 2 cylinder Onan diesel. The weight is approximately 1200 lbs. total. It's in the back of the house on a concrete pad, with no wheels. I would get a laugh out of someone attempting to steal it. It took me the better part of a day to get it to where it is now, and I had the use of an 8000 # winch, and a four wheel drive truck. |
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http://www.alleghenyfence.com/images/wres4B.jpg + http://www.feedingcannibal.com/images/Cain%20yawn%2020%20Sept%2004.jpg + http://www.littleshavers.com/ImageFile/Chain_Lock.jpg Is that chain for the generator, or the dog???? 
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When the electricity goes off and the generator stops making noise, you investigate with AR ready= no stolen genny. Simple concept. That assumes you are looking at your generator all day or able to hear it stop when you sleep. (edit: I didn't even see Walts post when I typed this) |
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My genset is in a skid. It has a 30 gal diesel fuel tank on top of the generator within the inclosure. It's a 2 cylinder Onan diesel. The weight is approximately 1200 lbs. total. It's in the back of the house on a concrete pad, with no wheels. I would get a laugh out of someone attempting to steal it. It took me the better part of a day to get it to where it is now, and I had the use of an 8000 # winch, and a four wheel drive truck. Getting one two heavy for being lifted is a great solution. I googled up one of those and holy c*** they are huge. You must have alot of power requirements to call for one of those things. |
At my house, the generator being run is chained up in the back yard. Also, I won't run a generator at night unless it's absolutely unavoidable. Security is one of the primary reasons I built a small battery bank with Xantrex inverter. It's not like I can stay awake forever  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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At my house, the generator being run is chained up in the back yard. Also, I won't run a generator at night unless it's absolutely unavoidable. Security is one of the primary reasons I built a small battery bank with Xantrex inverter. It's not like I can stay awake forever
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So you are running load during the day when you are aware and your batteries charge, but at night you go to battery power to stay quiet and avoid bringing unwanted attention? Where can I learn more about your setup? |
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At my house, the generator being run is chained up in the back yard. Also, I won't run a generator at night unless it's absolutely unavoidable. Security is one of the primary reasons I built a small battery bank with Xantrex inverter. It's not like I can stay awake forever
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So you are running load during the day when you are aware and your batteries charge, but at night you go to battery power to stay quiet and avoid bringing unwanted attention? Where can I learn more about your setup? You nailed it-that's exactly how I do it When I get to the office later this morning I'll edit my post with more specific info (it's hard to type long posts from my Blackberry).
But yes, during the day the generator(s) run my modest household loads as well as charge my small battery bank. Aside from the obvious security consideration, the other huge upside to doing this is that you stretch your fuel supply considerably when you only run your genset part-time. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I have a Powermate the 6350 max. What to stop somone from taking it? Well then I use mine I put it on the back deck. So they would have to have the balls to come in the gate , down the driveway and around the back of the house. Then onto my deck Fenced and gated sensor flood lights 122lb dog up onto the back deck with another flood light Chain Lock remington 1100 loaded with 00 buck Just an observation. With the power off and the generator not running, those flood lights arent going to work!! |
| Stage one Fenced back yard with real locking gates, stage two locked with "heavy" chain and lock, Stage 3 large Rottie in same back yard, and lastly my Robin is way to heavy for two men to life and carry far. Maybe they could drag it but my then I will have met them at the gate with my other supprise. |
 http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=626894  The shed is locked and heavier then a SOB PLUS it has six very rugged eye lag bolts that chain is used to lock the generator into the shed. The eye bolts are also located towards the back of the shed interior so that getting bolt cutters or other cutting tools in there would be a major PITA much less to get the leverage to cut the hardened lock or chain. The unit was also built so that I can attach chain under the shed and chain the shed to something else. Works great for fuel storage as well as a secure GenShed! |
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If you want to cross this to get my genny, shit I'll GIVE it to you. http://ninarose.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/plains.jpg Sounds like a deal to me. 
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http://www.alleghenyfence.com/images/wres4B.jpg + http://www.feedingcannibal.com/images/Cain%20yawn%2020%20Sept%2004.jpg + http://www.littleshavers.com/ImageFile/Chain_Lock.jpg So you have a grizzly bear with a hard on guarding your stuff I would not want to test it. Does it kill you then #$%^ you or %^$& you then kill you?
High jack over sorry could not resist. |
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http://www.quarterbore.com/images/shtf/genshed/genshed-033.jpg http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=626894
The shed is locked and heavier then a SOB PLUS it has six very rugged eye lag bolts that chain is used to lock the generator into the shed. The eye bolts are also located towards the back of the shed interior so that getting bolt cutters or other cutting tools in there would be a major PITA much less to get the leverage to cut the hardened lock or chain. The unit was also built so that I can attach chain under the shed and chain the shed to something else. Works great for fuel storage as well as a secure GenShed! That would be a lot more visually acceptable by the neighbors and make the wife more willing to go for it since it could match the house. |
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http://www.quarterbore.com/images/shtf/genshed/genshed-033.jpg http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=626894
The shed is locked and heavier then a SOB PLUS it has six very rugged eye lag bolts that chain is used to lock the generator into the shed. The eye bolts are also located towards the back of the shed interior so that getting bolt cutters or other cutting tools in there would be a major PITA much less to get the leverage to cut the hardened lock or chain. The unit was also built so that I can attach chain under the shed and chain the shed to something else. Works great for fuel storage as well as a secure GenShed! How hot does your generator get enclosed? I assume you have another vent on the other side, maybe a box fan mounted to one of them? |
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Quoted: Click the link you quoted Quoted: http://www.quarterbore.com/images/shtf/genshed/genshed-033.jpg http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=626894 The shed is locked and heavier then a SOB PLUS it has six very rugged eye lag bolts that chain is used to lock the generator into the shed. The eye bolts are also located towards the back of the shed interior so that getting bolt cutters or other cutting tools in there would be a major PITA much less to get the leverage to cut the hardened lock or chain. The unit was also built so that I can attach chain under the shed and chain the shed to something else. Works great for fuel storage as well as a secure GenShed! How hot does your generator get enclosed? I assume you have another vent on the other side, maybe a box fan mounted to one of them?  |
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Generac Guardian bolted down to concrete slab. If I think of it I'll snap and post a pic tonight And then there is Digby and Greta. Digby's paw is next to a 6x6 for comparison http://i620.photobucket.com/albums/tt282/EllisWyatt_photo/017.jpg just a reminder to the thief DIGBY loves his airconditioning
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http://www.quarterbore.com/images/shtf/genshed/genshed-033.jpg http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=626894
The shed is locked and heavier then a SOB PLUS it has six very rugged eye lag bolts that chain is used to lock the generator into the shed. The eye bolts are also located towards the back of the shed interior so that getting bolt cutters or other cutting tools in there would be a major PITA much less to get the leverage to cut the hardened lock or chain. The unit was also built so that I can attach chain under the shed and chain the shed to something else. Works great for fuel storage as well as a secure GenShed! How hot does your generator get enclosed? I assume you have another vent on the other side, maybe a box fan mounted to one of them?
oh, that's what those red letters and numbers are for  . Very nice job and a very informative thread to show the details.
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If you want to cross this to get my genny, shit I'll GIVE it to you. http://ninarose.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/plains.jpg You need this sign... 
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When the electricity goes off and the generator stops making noise, you investigate with AR ready= no stolen genny. Simple concept. That assumes you are looking at your generator all day or able to hear it stop when you sleep. (edit: I didn't even see Walts post when I typed this) Window AC unit goes off, AR comes out.
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If you want to cross this to get my genny, shit I'll GIVE it to you. http://ninarose.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/plains.jpg You need this sign... http://blog.ivman.com/wp-content/InRange.jpg C.g.... Oh holy hell, I love that sign. |
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http://www.quarterbore.com/images/shtf/genshed/genshed-033.jpg http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=626894
The shed is locked and heavier then a SOB PLUS it has six very rugged eye lag bolts that chain is used to lock the generator into the shed. The eye bolts are also located towards the back of the shed interior so that getting bolt cutters or other cutting tools in there would be a major PITA much less to get the leverage to cut the hardened lock or chain. The unit was also built so that I can attach chain under the shed and chain the shed to something else. Works great for fuel storage as well as a secure GenShed! Umm, are you sure that is where you keep the genset, not the bodies? it seems to be bleeding leaking... |
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Just a side note question, with those small Honda's or those like it is there a way to setup some kind of fuel line to a larger tank? Wise Sales sells these extended run tanks for generators. http://www.wisesales.com/DurationTanks.html Or get a trifuel kit, then store propane. |
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Just a side note question, with those small Honda's or those like it is there a way to setup some kind of fuel line to a larger tank? Wise Sales sells these extended run tanks for generators. http://www.wisesales.com/DurationTanks.html Or get a trifuel kit, then store propane. I thought of that but from what I can tell the amount of space I would take up storing propane cases vs the gas equivalent wouldn't provide me as long of a run time. However, propane would be easier to store for an extended period of time. |
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Just a side note question, with those small Honda's or those like it is there a way to setup some kind of fuel line to a larger tank? Wise Sales sells these extended run tanks for generators. http://www.wisesales.com/DurationTanks.html Or get a trifuel kit, then store propane. I thought of that but from what I can tell the amount of space I would take up storing propane cases vs the gas equivalent wouldn't provide me as long of a run time. However, propane would be easier to store for an extended period of time. Have you thought about larger propane tanks? eight gallon tanks don't take much more space than 5 gallon tanks, or you could get a few of the tall ones that taco trucks use (40 gallons? not sure the exact size). Mobility would be more of an issue with a larger tank, but in my opinion, it the mobility loss would wash with the longer term of storage... |
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Man, you guys need to try to get out in the country. I lamented so many of the same issues many of you do when I lived in the city.
Dont miss it one damn bit. Well, lunch isnt nearly as tasty anymore, but lemme tell ya I have a lot less worry about shit walking off in an emergency. |
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I went through Hurricane Charlie - and Generator theft was an issue then as well.
But, living in the country certainly has it's advantages in this case. Layered Defense. Multiple easliy observed fencelines and / or gates. Noisy Dogs. Chains. .223. Think there would be an easier way or place to try to snag a generator. |
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I live in one of those neighborhoods were they just cram the houses one after another so when SHTF it's going to be hard to hold down anything outside of the house and field of view is limited since there is a house every 10 yards almost. I'm still trying to address how I'm going to deal with the large front windows and large glass patio doors.
Also during the flooding a lot of crime took place so it doesn't have to be a huge event for people to get stupid. We are luckily on the high side of a hill. But our sump pump was going crazy so backup power is a must. |
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I'm thinking to myself if SHTF and you start running your place on generators, what's to stop someone from coming along and taking it? I never see any pics, please post if you do, of any kind of security for your backup power source. Just a side note question, with those small Honda's or those like it is there a way to setup some kind of fuel line to a larger tank? 
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