Posted: 10/8/2009 9:34:00 AM EDT
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Well I think this rig is a great rig for SHTF because if you are trying to go recon something and/or you need to me agile and not have a big rig constricting movement or making noise.
Enjoy http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-03-Modular-Split-Front-Chest-Harness-03-MSF-p/03%20msf1%20coyote.htm |
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I personally like RACK style chest rigs for low pro/ high mobility crap applications.
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| BCM makes and sells some good stuff. What you have there is basically a camelbak or hydration carrier and a chest rig. Both of which may be acquired for less money separately. I do agree that it's a nice setup. The open top mag pouches allow for fast deployment and I can fit 5.45 AK mags in those as well as AR mags, however, they may fall out if you are tumbling around a lot. YMMV. |
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i paid $20 for the chinese version of that. instead of the elastic closures it had a loop and wood button type deal. it didn't, however, have the molle stuff on it. |
| It looks like a good rig and doesn't try to carry too much. On the other hand with the number of MOLLE systems available that can be configured by the end user it isn't worth buying unless it's exactly what you want. If there are things you don't like or would rather have set up or placed different, your better off with a user configured rig. For quality gear, all similar configurations will cost about the same. |
Check this minimalist rig out.
This is a Micro Rig from OSOE gear by John Willis. As you can see, it's even available in Multi-cam for Protus!  I ran one of these in a Fighting Rifle class and it was great. It holds 4 AR or AK mags and a FAK. I have it next to the bed in case something goes bump in the night. It's super fast to put on and can even be slung over a shoulder if you're really in a hurry. He even makes one set up for shotgun and another with M1A/FAL/G-3 pouches.
John is also a prepper so he doesn't laugh at us SF guys. 
OSOE Micro Rig PS - check out John's Bungy Slings. They are the Shiznit! |
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The rig you listed is top of the line and worth it.
if you look at the cost of getting a chest rig then some sort of x harness + the water pouch it will cost the same as going any other route. There is a thread on this same rig in the armory section under gear. EDIT: The micro rig is to small for my liking. I think it is neat and may have a place somewhere.... but I think a TT AK harness or something similar would be better suited. |
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There's still that little problem about lying down in prone though with a chest rig. It's uncomfortable as hell and can crush your mags. A person can go, "well I just won't hit the ground and lay in the prone than", but that will certainly make you a bigger silhouette at times. |
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There's still that little problem about lying down in prone though with a chest rig. It's uncomfortable as hell and can crush your mags. A person can go, "well I just won't hit the ground and lay in the prone than", but that will certainly make you a bigger silhouette at times. Thats one of the biggest advantages to when I wore a RACK for a living, I was able to go prone with it. Even with body armor, it was possible, certainly more so than with your average chest rig. |
| I got this one http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MOLLE724-1.html In Brown or Green .. its kind of greenish brown so im not sure if its the OD or the coyote lol. It was cheap. seems tough and well at well over $100 less then the one at the top of the page im good with it lol |
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I got this one http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MOLLE724-1.html In Brown or Green .. its kind of greenish brown so im not sure if its the OD or the coyote lol. It was cheap. seems tough and well at well over $100 less then the one at the top of the page im good with it lol I have the same one along with a Eagle assualt plate carrier. The PC is ranger green and the rig is tan. I had the ACU one but my buddy is getting stocked up so I gave it to him. |
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A year or so ago I decided that my current set ups were just too much for most anything I’ll ever encounter. I’m not 18 anymore and the weight of my gear was something I really wanted to streamline. Naturally I wanted something that would last me from now on and would hold what I needed but not something I could cram the kitchen sink into. While in Camden this past july I got to lay hands on the OSOE Micro rig. http://originalsoegear.com/microrig.html I knew immediately I had to have one. It’s just so small yet holds all you need to fight with. If I need more than 5 rifle mags (1in the gun 4 in the micro rig) I’ve made a grave error in judgment. It allows for an unobstructed draw with your pistol this is a big plus to me. Build quality is just top notch. The AK/M4 micro rig has two mag pouches with adjustable lids. Each will hold 2 usgi AR mags / P-mags, or AK mags. It has a 6x6 utility pouch that is the perfect size to hold a Blow out kit / VOK ventilated operators kit (sold by tactical response). http://www.tacticalresponsegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37_118&products_id=2417 (this is something you should have with you no matter how much you hate to spend the money on it......) You can even cram a cleaning kit in there with it if you must…. It also has a compartment built into the back of the rig that would be perfect for a map /compass ,couple of small batteries or something relatively flat (imo). I wanted to wait until I got to really run the rig before I did a review of it even though I’ve been using it since I got it back in July. Well after using it for “Fighting Rifle” sept 5-6 with Tactical Response. I’m ready to report I made the right decision. It carried what I needed and I wasn’t weighed down with a bunch of stuff I wouldn’t use. This rig is perfect for a bump in the night grab and go rig. Fast on holds just what you need and nothing you don’t. Low profile enough I can have it on underneath a light jacket/ oversized button up shirt and you can’t really tell unless you’re up close and personal. If you must have pals and build your own it’s available that way also. While I think pals is cool because you can configure stuff the way you want it….. This rig is the way it needs to be period IMO. I noticed yesterday that John is building one for FAL’s G3’s etc now too…….. my FAL is already calling out for one. I also ran an OSOE single point sling for this class. While traditionally i prefer 2 point slings for carrying a rfle out in the woods. The single point works better when your transitioning from one shoulder to the other making use of cover etc..... It worked fine with my ak but it really shines with a 10.5" AR....... I'm actually looking forward to getting my hands on the new convertible sling he's got out that goes from 2point to single point........ so i can have the best of both worlds.  |
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Quoted: Check this minimalist rig out. http://originalsoegear.com/assets/new/miniakm.jpg This is a Micro Rig from OSOE gear by John Willis. As you can see, it's even available in Multi-cam for Protus! I ran one of these in a Fighting Rifle class and it was great. It holds 4 AR or AK mags and a FAK. I have it next to the bed in case something goes bump in the night. It's super fast to put on and can even be slung over a shoulder if you're really in a hurry. He even makes one set up for shotgun and another with M1A/FAL/G-3 pouches. John is also a prepper so he doesn't laugh at us SF guys. OSOE Micro Rig PS - check out John's Bungy Slings. They are the Shiznit! dont have a rig but if it is built like his other gear you cant go wrong! |
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if you need more then than that Micro Rig carriers...and your not in a .mil or LE situation...what the hell are you doing? In a SHTF scenario the idea is to avoid certain things, one being putting yourself in an environment to need an more then an extra 120 rounds strapped to your chest! If you need more then that for a "bump in the night", thats not a bump...its a full SWAT team or Israeli bull dozer about to plow your house down and youre screwed either way.
Seriously though...that is a nice rig and looks like some quality construction. |
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It looks like a good rig and doesn't try to carry too much. On the other hand with the number of MOLLE systems available that can be configured by the end user it isn't worth buying unless it's exactly what you want. If there are things you don't like or would rather have set up or placed different, your better off with a user configured rig. For quality gear, all similar configurations will cost about the same. +1 I've got a MOLLE vest and the flexibility of being able to put what you want, where you want can't be beat. |
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Check this minimalist rig out. http://originalsoegear.com/assets/new/miniakm.jpg This is a Micro Rig from OSOE gear by John Willis. As you can see, it's even available in Multi-cam for Protus! I ran one of these in a Fighting Rifle class and it was great. It holds 4 AR or AK mags and a FAK. I have it next to the bed in case something goes bump in the night. It's super fast to put on and can even be slung over a shoulder if you're really in a hurry. He even makes one set up for shotgun and another with M1A/FAL/G-3 pouches.
John is also a prepper so he doesn't laugh at us SF guys.
OSOE Micro Rig PS - check out John's Bungy Slings. They are the Shiznit! Damn Halffast there goes another $85! I like a rig that's small enough I can throw a light jacket over for concealment. The Eagle/SKD Universal works O.K. for that but has more mags than I need. This should fit the bill nicely. |
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My son and I have this rig from Eagle for SHTF. Its called the Universal Chest rig. SO tech makes one too, I believe. http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5245/398alt2.jpg 6 mags, 4 pistol mags, handgun, radio's, multi tool. Great rig. Can it hold a pistol with a light on it? |
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there are certain benefits to having all this stuff issued. I keep my 'flak' vest loaded to my specs and only have to switch things around when we hit the field.
http://manicroger.com/images/flackm4.jpg |
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My son and I have this rig from Eagle for SHTF. Its called the Universal Chest rig. SO tech makes one too, I believe. http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5245/398alt2.jpg 6 mags, 4 pistol mags, handgun, radio's, multi tool. Great rig. Can it hold a pistol with a light on it? Yes, it is just a mag pouch with a pistol in it. |
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For those who have not read it, check out the book, The Soldier's Load and The Mobility of a Nation. It provides excellent insight into what you wear on your gear effects how you perform in the field. The bottom line is this: Less is more. Chances are you won't need a ton of pistol and rifle magazines.
For those who look to the U.S. military today for how to setup your gear, think about this: The U.S. Army says that today's infantry man can be expected to march at a rate of 7km per day (day after day for an indefinite amount of time) with the standard combat load they are expected to carry. For comparison, German Line infantry in WWII (not light, Line) could do something like four times that. If you are bugging out by foot, that is something to consider. |
This is my rig.
It has soft body armor inside, which is important since I am no longer working the streets anymore and don't have on body armor as a habit. For light and fast, I've got this: This is what I carried in my trunk while on patrol. Since I already had body armor on under my uniform shirt, I didn't need it in my rig. 
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For those who have not read it, check out the book, The Soldier's Load and The Mobility of a Nation. It provides excellent insight into what you wear on your gear effects how you perform in the field. The bottom line is this: Less is more. Chances are you won't need a ton of pistol and rifle magazines. For those who look to the U.S. military today for how to setup your gear, think about this: The U.S. Army says that today's infantry man can be expected to march at a rate of 7km per day (day after day for an indefinite amount of time) with the standard combat load they are expected to carry. For comparison, German Line infantry in WWII (not light, Line) could do something like four times that. If you are bugging out by foot, that is something to consider. All of this. Lighter=Faster |