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7/26/2009 1:44:42 PM EDT
Who has 'em for sale ???





7/26/2009 8:26:55 PM EDT
[#2]
REI has them.
7/26/2009 8:33:11 PM EDT
[#3]

You used to be able to get staplers from Cabelas (for dogs). My wife has a good selection of sutures, Lidocain and staplers. Don't forget the "pickups" if you get the stapler.


7/26/2009 8:52:13 PM EDT
[#4]
In my limited experience I'd also recommend getting a hold of steri strips. From what I've been told and read on my own suturing in the woods is inoculating yourself with hoards of bacteria each time you run the needle through. Steri Strips are actually quite nice, clean the wound, pinch together then bind with a strip. My sis is a nurse at the hospital and hooked me up with a package of em.
7/26/2009 9:05:43 PM EDT
[#5]
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In my limited experience I'd also recommend getting a hold of steri strips. From what I've been told and read on my own suturing in the woods is inoculating yourself with hoards of bacteria each time you run the needle through. Steri Strips are actually quite nice, clean the wound, pinch together then bind with a strip. My sis is a nurse at the hospital and hooked me up with a package of em.


Very true, not to mention when you close a wound you seal a nice warm, moist, nutrient rich pocket within your body filled with dead tissue and bacteria. Closing wounds is sometimes worse then just letting it stay open, esp when you don't have the ability to truly clean and debris the wound.
7/26/2009 10:09:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
In my limited experience I'd also recommend getting a hold of steri strips. From what I've been told and read on my own suturing in the woods is inoculating yourself with hoards of bacteria each time you run the needle through. Steri Strips are actually quite nice, clean the wound, pinch together then bind with a strip. My sis is a nurse at the hospital and hooked me up with a package of em.


Best advice yet,

Also get some Benzoin swabs for better adhesion.
7/27/2009 1:03:00 AM EDT
[#7]



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In my limited experience I'd also recommend getting a hold of steri strips. From what I've been told and read on my own suturing in the woods is inoculating yourself with hoards of bacteria each time you run the needle through. Steri Strips are actually quite nice, clean the wound, pinch together then bind with a strip. My sis is a nurse at the hospital and hooked me up with a package of em.




Best advice yet,



Also get some Benzoin swabs for better adhesion.


My experience with steri strips is they pretty much require the benzoin swabs or some for of addition adhesive.  



 
7/27/2009 1:08:04 AM EDT
[#8]




Quoted:



You used to be able to get staplers from Cabelas (for dogs). My wife has a good selection of sutures, Lidocain and staplers. Don't forget the "pickups" if you get the stapler.







Whats a pickup? And where can one find lidocain?

7/27/2009 4:49:14 AM EDT
[#9]
Depending on the type of laceration, they are using a lot of Dermabond, or crazy glue
7/27/2009 5:06:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:

Quoted:

You used to be able to get staplers from Cabelas (for dogs). My wife has a good selection of sutures, Lidocain and staplers. Don't forget the "pickups" if you get the stapler.



Whats a pickup? And where can one find lidocain?


No offense intended, but it sounds like you're not quite ready to try throwing stitches. Training first, then gear.
7/27/2009 5:07:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Super glue works great unless you have a really nasty cut.
7/27/2009 5:10:04 AM EDT
[#12]
Lidocaine is a local anesthesia, your not going to find it at Walmart nor at the Vet supply places unfortunately.

The good news is that it does remain somewhat potent for a few years out of date- PLEASE no exp. date arguments and don't take my post as medical advice, etc. That being said, we removed a frickin alien sized boil- quite literally about the size of a golfball from my brother's back one time. We used lidocaine that was 3 years "out of date." Cleaned the outside, raised a wheel then cut the little alien out, debrided, cleaned and sutured him up. Gave him a 2 week course of antibiotics and he was fine, healed with minimal scaring. As a chronic chain smoker, he gets things like this regularly.

Saline solution that you buy for contact lenses is helpful in irrigating wounds. Do not buy the stuff with detergents, the straight saline solution is what you want. You'll use a LOT of 4x4's in wound care, make sure you have quite a few (as in hundreds if your just a couple people or more if you more people). Remember stuff like this you can't go pick off a tree.

Betadine you can buy at the Vet supply places by the gallon for about what you'd pay for two bottles of it (16 oz.) at Walmart. Same stuff.

I've closed several superficial cuts with butterfly closures. Sometimes a doctor's visit just can't happen for whatever reason. You need to know how to take care of wounds, how a wound heals, nutrition requirements of the patient, etc. Survival medicine learns to make do with what you have and what you can stockpile ahead of time.

Wound care is actually a pretty interesting subject, it's just hard to get experience with it if your not in the medical field. It does entail a good bit more than just suturing though.

Lowdown3
7/27/2009 5:35:39 AM EDT
[#13]
I got a minor surgical kit and a bunch of sutures on ebay. Sutures are out of date and described as "practice sutures", but I suspect they'd fit the bill in a shtf event.
7/27/2009 6:31:13 AM EDT
[#14]
In before the shit storm that always takes over the first aid threads.
7/27/2009 9:17:00 AM EDT
[#15]
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In before the shit storm that always takes over the first aid threads.


Me too. Where's my umbrella?

Stay Safe,
AGreyMan

7/27/2009 10:22:51 AM EDT
[#16]




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You used to be able to get staplers from Cabelas (for dogs). My wife has a good selection of sutures, Lidocain and staplers. Don't forget the "pickups" if you get the stapler.







Whats a pickup? And where can one find lidocain?





No offense intended, but it sounds like you're not quite ready to try throwing stitches. Training first, then gear.


None taken. But, duh.


My FIL is a sports medicine doctor and hes been showing me how to suture. I have never heard the term pickup yet. And as far as Lidocain goes I know what it is, and was curious if civilian type pukes like me can even get a hold of it and legally posess it. I know its in Bactine. Oh, and if anyone was wondering I was an EMT Intermediate in the Coast Guard.

7/27/2009 10:39:43 AM EDT
[#17]
I've  used fishing line and a needle.
YMMV.