Posted: 6/22/2009 8:10:04 PM EDT
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They say that is the temp book paper bursts into flame.
At what temperature does TP burst into flame ( unused )? Would it be safe to stuff my attic full of TP?, or would it be a fire hazard ? |
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They say that is the temp book paper bursts into flame. At what temperature does TP burst into flame ( unused )? Would it be safe to stuff my attic full of TP?, or would it be a fire hazard ? Paper being paper, it should have about the same flash point. There's no real danger of your toilet paper bursting into flames while being stored in the attic if you take simple precautions. Don't put it too close to any wiring. Don't put it too close to any kitchen/heater vents or the chimney. Otherwise toilet paper is the preferred prep to store in the attic because it is light, inert, not super flammable and extremes of heat and cold found in attics doesn't affect it. |
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TP would be somewhere in that range. I think most paper is higher. The author just picked a number. A professor of fire science claimed he would be closer if he he had called in celsius 451. But forget about the autoignition temp so much as try to keep the TP away from wires and lights that could set it on fire.
I store most of my TP in the attic. |
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Keep the TP away from fiberglass insulation. It could be itchy! Good idea on storing more. I can't think of a good alternative. You can buy TP, I will buy bullets, beans, rice. If I am to that point least of worries is how or with what I can going to wipe with. Have a squeeze bottle to flush with or rinse. Without doubt, if we are in that situation, I have already soiled my drawers. |
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TP would be somewhere in that range. I think most paper is higher. The author just picked a number. A professor of fire science claimed he would be closer if he he had called in celsius 451. But forget about the autoignition temp so much as try to keep the TP away from wires and lights that could set it on fire. I store most of my TP in the attic. Actually no he did not just pick a number. He asked the local fire department (He actually discussed this with one of my English Professors. He was having trouble finding what temp paper burned at and was driving by the FD and basically thought well duh and went in and asked.) I question your professor of fire science. 451 degrees celsius is over 800 degrees fahrenheit. That will melt nomex and kevlar(IIRC nomex melt or burn point is 700 and kevlars is 800). |
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OK, somebody just picked that number. Remember we are talking auto ignition temperature. The temperature at which material will burst into flames at standard pressure, standard atmospheric oxygen content. His source was some handbook on paper science. It was a huge book with hundreds of contributors from university chemical engineering departments and paper companies all over the world. There was a lady in the class, an english teacher, who felt Ray Bradbury probally knew more then the instructor, hence the discussion. He challanged her to try it at her house in a house hold oven. the paper needs to be under a shield (ie a baking sheet) so block radient heat. She didn't get the paper to ignite at 475 deg F or on broil.
His source claimed celulose paper ignighted at almost exactally 451 deg C. Maybe Bradbery asked some German fireman? |
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They say that is the temp book paper bursts into flame. At what temperature does TP burst into flame ( unused )? Would it be safe to stuff my attic full of TP?, or would it be a fire hazard ? Paper being paper, it should have about the same flash point. There's no real danger of your toilet paper bursting into flames while being stored in the attic if you take simple precautions. Don't put it too close to any wiring. Don't put it too close to any kitchen/heater vents or the chimney. Otherwise toilet paper is the preferred prep to store in the attic because it is light, inert, not super flammable and extremes of heat and cold found in attics doesn't affect it. +1 In fact, if you put enough of it up there, you'll actually notice an insulating effect in the winter. We did. ...added bonus |