Posted: 5/8/2009 2:37:24 PM EDT
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Okay fess up. Which one of you guys here is this:
"Long before the officers arrived on his doorstep — 31 years to be exact — Martin, 73, knowing full well he lived in a canyon that could explode in flames at any moment, started preparing." http://www.thedailysound.com/050809MissionBunker |
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the screwed up thing is Cali has alot of laws banning you from planting green non fire storming vegetation around your home for environmental reasons  Contrary to what you have heard or have been told it's not true. We are encouraged to cut back roughly 100 feet of defensible area and plant ice plants or something similar. |
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the screwed up thing is Cali has alot of laws banning you from planting green non fire storming vegetation around your home for environmental reasons No such ordinance in the +7300 square miles of Riverside country either. The chaparrals of California have been burning for hundreds of centuries and despite people planting trees and homes in the middle of them it's not going to stop the fires. Like putting up fences would stop the hurricanes in Florida or tornadoes in Kansas. Mother nature is way more powerful than man's will. Many of the newer sub-divisions plow up the chaparral for about 100 yards and put in crushed stone as a fire break. Areas like Big Bear/Lake Arrowhead are impossible to defend as they often put the cabins right in and among the pine trees up there. |
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I commend they man's effort. But, I'm really suprised California or the county doesn't have some sort of law that said he had to evacuate. I know here in Colorado, they can arrest you if you don't evacuate when told. It's a matter of protecting the fire crews & police from risking thier lives to go get some stubborn ole person.
After some Colorado wildfires a few years ago, that law went into effect. Also, insurance companies started cancelling or not insuring houses that had wook shake roofs. I know, I live in the city and I wanted in insure with the same company as my auto... and they said nope.... Wood roof... I said..hey, I'm in the city and I live 1 mile for fire station. Didn't matter, I was in Colorado. 
I just hope other folks don't try to save thier house without being as prepped. Otherwise, there will be some bad outcomes. |
| The guy in the story could have problems if he depended on public utility water supplies. If there had been a break in the line, or power failure to run the pumps he would have zero water pressure. What he needed is a swimming pooling and gasoline power water pump in case he get no water pressure. |
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Mandatory evacuations are not mandatory. 
Sort of odd huh? i might be wrong, but in the 96-97 flood in yuba/ sutter counties i think it was a mandatory evac. i do not remember anyone getting arrested for it but i do remember badges going door to door telling people to gtfo. they might have just called it mandatory and not done anything about it. hindsight from the 86 flood said the levee was going to break some where and it did. the 97 flood happened just miles from the 86 flood. and then some moron bought that dirt for cheap, got fema to rezone it to a 50 year flood plain, and built like 3000 homes down there. one of the developments was called edgewater because it was the closest to the river. all the people that have lived in this valley as long as i have call it underwater (i live on high ground :). to prep there you get life jackets, learn to swim in heavy river currents, and bolt a ladder to the side of your house to access the roof. does anyone remember the name of that dog that was stuck on that house that the news chopper picked up. wasn't it a border collie named rodeo? |
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the screwed up thing is Cali has alot of laws banning you from planting green non fire storming vegetation around your home for environmental reasons Not true at all! In fact, there are Weed Abatement Officers who will write you a ticket if you allow vegetation too close to your home. Then if it's still not cleared, the local FD will find a contractor to remove the offending vegetation. What the state does recommend in a cleared area with fire resistant plant like iceplant planted in the area. |
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Mandatory evacuations are not mandatory.
Sort of odd huh? i might be wrong, but in the 96-97 flood in yuba/ sutter counties i think it was a mandatory evac. i do not remember anyone getting arrested for it but i do remember badges going door to door telling people to gtfo. they might have just called it mandatory and not done anything about it. hindsight from the 86 flood said the levee was going to break some where and it did. the 97 flood happened just miles from the 86 flood. and then some moron bought that dirt for cheap, got fema to rezone it to a 50 year flood plain, and built like 3000 homes down there. one of the developments was called edgewater because it was the closest to the river. all the people that have lived in this valley as long as i have call it underwater (i live on high ground :). to prep there you get life jackets, learn to swim in heavy river currents, and bolt a ladder to the side of your house to access the roof. does anyone remember the name of that dog that was stuck on that house that the news chopper picked up. wasn't it a border collie named rodeo? I remember a EBS broadcast on the Sacto stations in 1986. Requesting anyone who could to bring their flat bottom boats to help in the rescue. The identified which intersection in the missle of town they were launching the boats at.
Prayers for Santa Barbara, NorCal got plenty last year |
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the screwed up thing is Cali has alot of laws banning you from planting green non fire storming vegetation around your home for environmental reasons I remember something from the last fire along the same lines, might have been a County/HOA that restricted a homeowner from replacing fire-loving plants to non-fire-loving plants. Basically they were trading making the neighborhood pretty vs saving your home from a fire. |
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the screwed up thing is Cali has alot of laws banning you from planting green non fire storming vegetation around your home for environmental reasons I remember something from the last fire along the same lines, might have been a County/HOA that restricted a homeowner from replacing fire-loving plants to non-fire-loving plants. Basically they were trading making the neighborhood pretty vs saving your home from a fire. Yes I definately read a news article on it, about the only homeowner who violated it saving his home or something |