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4/26/2009 3:10:25 AM EDT
I searched but could not find any info so.... Honda eu2000i what is the best LP(propane) or tri-fuel set up and ball park figure on price?
4/26/2009 4:23:18 AM EDT
[#1]
check out herehttp://www.propane-generators.com/

Brian
4/26/2009 8:39:31 AM EDT
[#2]
I am also interested in the tri-fuel conversion but am curious if or how much it negetively affects fuel consumption?    Would it be smarter to have a different carb for lp or nat gas and just switch them out?

Has anyone had hands on exp with this stuff?
4/26/2009 9:20:35 AM EDT
[#3]
On small generator engines with variable speed such as the Honda 2000 there will be little noticeable effect on fuel economy when comparing propane to gasoline.  My guess from using my Yamaha 2400 with the tri fuel setup would be less than a 10% difference, if even that much.  I think I remember reading that propane has 92000BTU's per gallon compared to gasoline which has 125000BTU's per gallon (or about 27% more).  In a actual usage situation though this figure is difficult to use because when a generator is running and various loads are cycling the speed of the generator up and down it is darn near impossible to calculate a reliable difference.  This is because items requiring electricity and plugged into the genny often have varied power requirements according to temp or use.  

So basically running the exact same loads at the exact same time if the Honda ran for 10 hours on gasoline it would run for 7.5 hours on propane.
And you get the benefit of cleaner burning fuel for longer engine life and less maintenance.  Propane is easier to store safely as well.  And remember your generator will put out the same total power using either fuel, you will just use slightly more propane than you would gasoline.  If you have a big house tank of propane or have natural gas run to your location you also have very very long run times with no need for refueling.
4/26/2009 9:23:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Here is a good FAQ on propane conversions that answers lots of questions.

link

4/26/2009 11:37:41 AM EDT
[#5]
i  have put one the conversion kits on my 5k genny and it works great!
4/26/2009 12:14:39 PM EDT
[#6]
did u get the kit from the link above?
4/26/2009 2:07:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Does a generator run on natural gas produce as much carbon monoxide as one run on gasoline?
4/26/2009 3:07:34 PM EDT
[#8]
Check this out, Link.
4/27/2009 4:28:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
On small generator engines with variable speed such as the Honda 2000 there will be little noticeable effect on fuel economy when comparing propane to gasoline.  My guess from using my Yamaha 2400 with the tri fuel setup would be less than a 10% difference, if even that much.  I think I remember reading that propane has 92000BTU's per gallon compared to gasoline which has 125000BTU's per gallon (or about 27% more).  In a actual usage situation though this figure is difficult to use because when a generator is running and various loads are cycling the speed of the generator up and down it is darn near impossible to calculate a reliable difference.  This is because items requiring electricity and plugged into the genny often have varied power requirements according to temp or use.  

So basically running the exact same loads at the exact same time if the Honda ran for 10 hours on gasoline it would run for 7.5 hours on propane.
And you get the benefit of cleaner burning fuel for longer engine life and less maintenance.  Propane is easier to store safely as well.  And remember your generator will put out the same total power using either fuel, you will just use slightly more propane than you would gasoline.  If you have a big house tank of propane or have natural gas run to your location you also have very very long run times with no need for refueling.


The reason i am asking is that i have access to a fair amount of gas and propane and if we had a prolonged issue and depending on the season i might want to run one the other or both types of fuel.   So i am trying to set up for both types of fuel.  

Am i crazy?  What problems with fuel lines etc could I have?

I have seen this site but I like independant imput.
4/27/2009 5:47:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
On small generator engines with variable speed such as the Honda 2000 there will be little noticeable effect on fuel economy when comparing propane to gasoline.  My guess from using my Yamaha 2400 with the tri fuel setup would be less than a 10% difference, if even that much.  I think I remember reading that propane has 92000BTU's per gallon compared to gasoline which has 125000BTU's per gallon (or about 27% more).  In a actual usage situation though this figure is difficult to use because when a generator is running and various loads are cycling the speed of the generator up and down it is darn near impossible to calculate a reliable difference.  This is because items requiring electricity and plugged into the genny often have varied power requirements according to temp or use.  

So basically running the exact same loads at the exact same time if the Honda ran for 10 hours on gasoline it would run for 7.5 hours on propane.
And you get the benefit of cleaner burning fuel for longer engine life and less maintenance.  Propane is easier to store safely as well.  And remember your generator will put out the same total power using either fuel, you will just use slightly more propane than you would gasoline.  If you have a big house tank of propane or have natural gas run to your location you also have very very long run times with no need for refueling.


The reason i am asking is that i have access to a fair amount of gas and propane and if we had a prolonged issue and depending on the season i might want to run one the other or both types of fuel.   So i am trying to set up for both types of fuel.  

Am i crazy?  What problems with fuel lines etc could I have?

I have seen this site but I like independant imput.


Not sure what you are asking exactly.  Once installed and properly adjusted/set up, the tri-fuel kit will run on propane or gasoline with a simple flip of the generators fuel on/off switch.  On my Yamaha if I want to run on gasoline I switch the fuel switch on the genny to "on" and pull the starter cord.  If I want to run on propane I switch the fuel switch to "off", plug in my propane line and pull the starter cord.  It is really that simple.  There is no carburetor or other parts you need to swap.  Fuel lines are not an issue because the propane feeds through to the carb from a separate line than the gasoline does. I have my Yamaha set up so I can plug its quick attach propane fittings to a basic BBQ bottle or to my houses 1000 gallon buried tank.   I will say that I find myself using propane much more often than gasoline these days.  Gasoline degrades over time and could gunk up the carb if left without running for long periods.  If you run propane you don't have to worry about that.  One thing you might want to consider is that Yamaha will not void your warranty if you convert to tri-fuel, Honda will.  
4/27/2009 7:26:19 PM EDT
[#11]
http://www.yamaha-propane-natural-gas-generators.com/ef30ise.htm

they do Honda's too I think.
4/27/2009 8:18:03 PM EDT
[#12]
Thanks guys i think you just answered my questions "sorry i didn't make it more clear" about fuel and potential issues.

I think i will move foreward on this.
4/28/2009 1:39:24 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Thanks guys i think you just answered my questions "sorry i didn't make it more clear" about fuel and potential issues.

I think i will move foreward on this.


Nice hijack.