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1/21/2009 7:05:55 AM EDT
I am trying to convert a vent-less gas log fireplace to conventional wood heat. I have had a hard time trying to find insulated fireboxes.

The only one I have found is this model made by Vermont Castings.

http://www.vermontcastings.com/catalog/elements/files/2006/Winter_Warm_Fireplace_System.pdf

http://www.vermontcastings.com/content/products/productdetails.cfm?id=197

Anybody else know of any other insulated fire boxes that would be suitable??

Have any better ideas?

I am looking for a photo showing the layout of our existing gas logs and proposed location of the firebox.
1/21/2009 7:59:05 AM EDT
[#1]
You could go with a wood stove fireplace insert.



Stoves are much more efficient.
1/21/2009 8:00:37 AM EDT
[#2]
Wow, strange that you would post this.  I was thinking about this exact thing yesterday.  I have two gas firelplaces in the house.  While very convenient, in a SHTF scenario, I probably wouldn't receive my LP deliveries (250gal tank buried in the yard).  I too would be interested in any information that can be provided.

1/21/2009 9:26:26 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
You could go with a wood stove fireplace insert.

Stoves are much more efficient.


I'd go with the insert, especially if the oxygen for combustion is sourced from the outside.

We have one, unfortunately it uses house air, but it will still heat half the house with the patio door cracked a tiny bit.

You can always open the doors and get the fireplace effect. You can also get a tempered glass panel that lets you see the fire but still seals the room (don't have one of those).

And lastly, if you don't use it much you can get six 50 cal ammo cans in one. Great storage (seal the flue!).

1/21/2009 12:13:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
You could go with a wood stove fireplace insert.



Stoves are much more efficient.


While they are more efficient, don't you have to have a masonry fireplace to put the insert in? (I don't have that) I just have a wooden box that the zero clearance gas logs are sitting in. Thats why I need a zero clearance fire box to put back in that hole.

Let me take a photo of what I am working with and get some measurements tonight.

Does anybody know of another brand of firebox??
1/22/2009 3:52:58 AM EDT
[#5]
This is what I am working with:


That is on a exterior wall. Behind that wall is a 3'+ deep by 4'+ wide "box" (that extends from the floor to the celling) that is built to hold the TV and gas logs.

Venting with a triple wall pipe would be simple.

Any other brands that make a insulated firebox??
1/22/2009 5:18:55 AM EDT
[#6]
I would check this site out.  Might have what you are looking for.

Fireplaces


It's not going to be as simple as you might think.  A chimney needs to rise above the rooftop idealy.  There are some rules of thumb to apply.  Make sure that if you do it, you know what you are doing.

I would consider leaving what you have.  Since it's ventless, you already have a power free heat source.  Plus, that really looks pretty.

If you just have to have a wood burning appliance, you might be able to run one through your ceiling and out the roof....put in in a corner of the room or more idealy, centrally located in the house.

I wouldn't mess with what you have there but that's just me.
1/22/2009 7:19:07 AM EDT
[#7]
I just want out of using propane. I like what we have, but grew up with wood heat and have an unlimited supply of it. When we built our house I was talked out of a masonry chimney due to the cost....biggest regret I have now about the house.

Routing the pipe will not be a problem and it will extend through the roof.

Not gonna do a half-assed job on it.....I have a wife to answer to if its fugly

Thanks for the link, going there now!!