[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 90 Seconds (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/28/2008 8:37:57 PM EDT
Say a Post on another site and it mad me think about a few items.
What would you have already ready to go. I would grab my 2nd BOB, 870, AR15 & savage 10FP (1 Case), 4 Ammo cans and the laptop.The Ram is pretty well equipped |
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Dam I'm dead, I spent more than that reading another thread befor I click on this one. This is the old question: What do YOU do when some one hits you in the head with a bat? "I would duck, left sling out right arm to block, pull left side pistol while droping into ninjado stance for counter attack while getting phone out with speed dial lawer then do duck fuu...." Answer: "I get hit in the head." What do you do if the world ended now? |
| In 90 seconds, I would be lucky to get the children (4 of them) and my wife in a vehicle, Perhaps we would have time to get the food and water grab boxes that we have stocked and ready to go. If we were awakened while sleeping, I an not sure we would get any supplies out at all, and we would be limited to the clothing we had on. |
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Seriously only 90 seconds? I assume for this drill I already have my truck pulled out of my garage and it is sitting in my drive way. I would grab my gun case and ammo boxes (that contains my ar and all rounds and all 10 mags) first. I would toss my ammo box thru my front window of my house and it would land one story down into my truck bed. I would then toss my gun bag out to land in the bed. I would then run down stairs and continue to grab, run and load every rubermaid box of food that I have into my truck untill time was up. I would be sad to leave behind lots of preps. I alway keep a pack in my truck. Sort of a cross country pack. It's more of a long term pack with the imediate weather/season clothing/shelter included. I'm not always dressed but I've been giving serious thought to sleeping in my shoes. 
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like said above it would take that long to get the kids up and into the car. only three right now with another on the way but man it takes a lot to get kids out the door. i am sure on the way i could grabe my wifes bob and my bob and a quick stop by the gun safe for some ar's and aks and other guns and ammo. sure would suck to leave the rest behind. stuck |
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90 seconds You've pretty much got 1 trip from house to vehicle and you're only going to be able to take out what you can carry. Throwing supplies out a window isn't a bad idea....but isn't the greatest. Then again giving you 90 seconds to leave is pretty FUBAR on its own. |
| Ive got my stuff setup for this type of scenerio. The truck is setup for a weeks worth of "camping" (food, water, shelter, first aid) The only things I need to do is grab my Pelican case with AR and 1911. A few important files out of the safe and leave. Living on the 2nd floor with bushes below me, you can sure as shit bet Im chucking the Pelican case out the window and that would give me time to stuff a duffle bag with some clothes or toss an extra case of MREs out the window as well. lol. |
| lol peli case no problem...I ran mine over with a car with my laptop case....It' also floated down part of the white nile. I wouldn't probably do it though if I had some higher $$$ optics on there, though landing in bushes it might be ok. I for sure wouldn't do it with a soft case but a hard case should be fine |
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[fantasy] #1 son sets perimeter in front yard, #2 in back. Throw BOB1,2 and 3 into back of UberBOTruck. DRAG wifey kicking and screaming to truck. Two short blasts on the horn. Sons break for the truck. Jam out through the gate in flashy Hollywood style without even opening it! [/fantasy] [Reality] Or.....Boots, Bibs... maybe a shirt... die in 90 seconds yelling at wife, kids, dogs, cats and wondering wtf has killed me in 90 seconds... [/reality] |
what the f could require a 90 second bugout. ? takes longer than that to crank up my old jeep  ! ---- seriously tho.. in that time, I could pretty much grab my bob, 2 pistols and a few mags, medications and an armful of clothes for wife, maybe grab a box of MRE entrees and roll. both cars (and the old jeep  ) have food and water and basic supplies in them. My car is like a rolling survival emporium  ---- probably wouldnt have time to open the gunsafe for rifles, gather up additional food, ammo or provisions beyond what is already packed. even tho I have a camp stove and utensils kit, and MH up the wazzo, it would take too long to gather and load. |
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our BOB's are on the way out of the house and grabbing a gun would be quick, but w/ a 2 y.o. and a 5 y.o. and pregnant nauseated wife i'm doubting 90 seconds would be doable. but as somebody mentioned above, my house is my BOL. we're on acreage 5 miles out of town. |
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My first thought was 90 seconds wouldn't be near enough time but, now that I give it some thought, it might work. I haven't timed a dry-run but my wife and I have strategized about it. The dogs *never* argue about getting in the car and I wouldn't give a shit about the car seat for the toddler if it was that serious. The garage door would be coming up as we shove them in. The biggest variable would be if the dogs were outside and/or if the baby is sleeping upstairs. If it was 90-second-serious, I wouldn't bother getting any gear aside from grabbing the BOB and water out of the truck and chucking it in the car. The dogs would go a little hungry but they could miss a meal or two. There'd be enough food and water to keep us alert and functioning for a week or so and both adults are always armed. Might be able to do it. Thanks for making me think about it.
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yell at fiancee to grab all the critters she can and go get in/start the truck. strap on the chest rig, belt, bob and rifle (in that order) grab remainder of the furry critters. Get in the truck. Hope my 90 seconds arent up. I'm setup to move quick, but 90 seconds would be a bit much. Maybe if I get a Tahoe ive been lookin at, I can have more stuff already in the vehicle but that still doesn't leave much time to get animals and make sure we're properly clothed. I've always planned for 5 minutes or so of warning time. |
| I dont think 90seconds is reasonable, most ppl cant think that quick. I think 5minutes would be a really good test. Maybe do some dry runs and see what all gets loaded in the car. I know in a real SHTF zombie attack I wouldnt worry bout some things, like when I throw my pelican case out the window , it may or may not be open at the time. lol. |
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The really hard part would be deciding whether to grab the shottie or my best deer head! The rest is pretty much under control..... altho we would only have food for 3 days. Give me 5 minutes and we could do a lot better. Give me 30 minutes and we would be camping in style for a month or so. |
Hell for 30minutes, I could have my place gutted with the exception of the big furniture (the joys of living a simply streamlined life, I keep only what I use and a few spares. very little junk or clutter) |
I've done this before when the house burned down. Here's basically the same thing but with little changes for the lack of calling the FD and locking up instead: Walk around the house ensuring everybody is out and the safe and all of the doors and windows are secure. Grab the hard drives, ready cash, BOB, and the cat. Set the alarm, lock the door on the way out, get in BOV and leave. Everything else in there is insured and can be replaced. ============= 90 seconds is enough time to field strip and reassemble an AR, have sex (twice***), make instant coffee in the microwave, or take a very quick shower if you aren't worried about towelling off and getting dressed afterwards. It's not enough time to prepare and decide to Bug Out. Ideally, you'll have from several hours or several days of notice and can make use of that time to make final load-ups then GTFOOD. YMMV *** old Married with Children AL Bundy joke. Do not attempt this at home.
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I was just sayin we could do it in 90 seconds, but the choices might be tough. 30 minutes actually is a whole lotta time and it would be pretty easy... by that point in time we would be adding extra gardening tools in February or snowshoes in August just to be extra ready. |
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Tell you something, though - I'm going to try this. Wait until the kid's asleep tonight so I don't scare the bejesus out of her but I'll set a timer for 90 seconds and see how much (or little) I can get done (excluding the "have sex twice" thing). Aim small, miss small, right?
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what sets the 90 second rule?----I know how much I can get out in 90 sec's----not enough. I think I would be leaning more towards what can i do to extend that 90 seconds. Shoot whoever is making me leave, NBC attack---you aint gonna go anywhere safe in 90 secs---aside from my secret batcave. Just wondering what the whle 90 sec scenario is. Like stated before----90 sec is more like a fire-----I would throw my safe and gun safe out my bedroom window----it is a small balcany about 6 feet above the front yard---and the gun safe definatley would have the weight to make it through the window and maybe the wall too. other than that---you aint taking much---
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I've found that stressful times are bad times to fumble the combo on the safe. When the condo at the end of my unit was on fire a couple of years ago, I flubbed the combo twice trying to get into the safe to 1) secure some valuables from fire / water damage and 2) to get my neighbor's key so they wouldn't have to kick her door. FD was damn quick getting here, which is a good thing. A little too quick for my neighbor's door (her unit was between mine and the fire). In my case, I'd probably skip getting into the safe and scoop up my ferrets, grab their BOB and run out the door and head to a rally point or BOL. Everything I really need is in the car or prepositioned in a worst-case scenario. John |
Okay, anyone who said "Not enough time to do anything" needs to try it first. Ran upstairs and grabbed my kid (okay - a 3-foot stuffed frog on her bed  ) while my wife got our dogs in the car. Tossed Sir Foggy into the car seat and punched the garage door opener while my wife dragged one of the food boxes (week's worth) into the back of the car. Ran down to the basement, opened the safe and grabbed the document-sized Sentry safe with our personal papers (deeds, birth certs, flash drive, et cetera) and ran back upstairs. Started the car.74 seconds. Would've ended up with a freaked-out toddler, nothing but the clothes on our back (and guns in our waistbands) and week's worth of food, plus the safe door was left wide open... but we'd be out in 90 seconds. Who knew? |
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10 seconds - Kiss my wife good bye 30 seconds - run down stairs and open safe, remote start truck 30 seconds - put on plate carrier grab AR, Glock and Rem 700 20 Seconds - Call dogs and run for truck BTW my wife read my post so I'll be in the dog house now. So I think I can now shave it down to 70 seconds
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Seriously, there are two things I would rush upstairs to grab - the "masterBOB" , and the fire-safe with the essential ID papers, passports, birth certificates, etc, photos, documents. But as others say, 90 seconds isn't long enough to get the kids out the door unless I physically grab them and rush them into the front yard. Give me 5 minutes and I could load the tactical mini-van with our GHB, BOB, essential papers, lap top, camping gear and extra food, tp, and clothes. |
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Roomate grabs the shopping cart (yes, we have a shopping cart =p), and cleans out the pantry. Most of it's dry non-perishable, and still in their bulk packaging. I'd say he could clean out the couple months worth of food for both of us and throw it in the car in about a minute and a half. I grab the AR and shotgun and sling'em, and the ammo bag (300 rds 5.56 in 10 AR mags, 6 15rd 9mm mags, about 30 slug and 30 00buck, and a .22 brick). Grab my pistol box, 2 Glock 19s, and a Walther P22, each have holsters/mag carriers with them. All my cleaning kits are in one bag, right next to the ammo bag. I can, and have, carried all 3 of those in one hand to the car. Other hand grabs the large end of the world bag. Everything is accessable and ready to go. Even if I was alseep and not dressed, we could still probably manage, but it'd be close. It helps, though, that we have clothes, sleeping bags, extra gas, oil, and a lot of stuff already in the van. Winters have been known to get bad up here, we learned our lesson the hard way once about not having stuff in the van if it breaks down. And that's just if I have absolutely no warning. If I get even 10 minutes, we can move a *lot* more food, ammo, and guns. Though the roomate is the biggest advantage, he's already on the level, and we know not to argue if one of us ever said "We are leaving, NOW, and we are NOT coming back". Most people would eat up too much time arguing and explaining what to do, I think. " |
LMAO! Does it count if we just run to our 30x40 loaded up shop 100 feet from the house in our underwear??? That we could do... Otherwise, we are screwed... I should mention the wife is 6 months preg, and we have a 17mo son to tote... So, 90 seconds would be tough... Worse case, grab son, 2- BOB's Glock 19, 500 rounds of 9, cash, baby's bag, wallets with CC's a couple Nalgene bottles of water and go... KDX |
We opted for the civilian model, so parts are easier to find and more common. Also helps keep a low profile. We've been thinking of sending it off to be hard chromed. Not sure if it's MPI/HPT tested, though. You can find some good deals on surplus carts in the EE. |
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Most have good answers so far. I didn't make the 90 sec rule just read it else ware and it made me think so I thought you guys would like it as well And yes it's not that realist but it can be done if you set up, while 5 min is a much better option and will allow for more equipment.
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I've got three BOBs, one pistol, one rifle. I just might make the deadline, but realistically not. I've got four tubs of stuff ready to go, but if we are really running for our lives, then it stays. Bump the warning up to 10 minutes, and I'm solid. |
Right there! Gave it some thought from an "I'm asleep" start and the end results vary from sort of OK to tripped over the cat in my rush and died. |
Ah good point, they didnt say WHEN the 90seconds would start. I couldnt imagine trying to wake up kids from a dead sleep, get the pets going and try to explain to the wife WHY we gotta go. lol. That all would take atleast 1/2 an hour. lol |
Sound like my house. BTW we are bugging in. |
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If things had deteriorated to the point that someone could knock on my door and tell me to be gone in 90 seconds, sorry, but they'd be coming to an empty house. I cannot think of any such scenario where I wouldn't have known about it sooner. That said, my truck is well equipped for 7-10 days, grab the Wife & INCH bag and go, the dog would have beaten us to the truck. Everything else is insured, replaceable, and/or in the broad scheme of things - not that important to me. 'Course if it's a fire, I'd tell them they have about 90 seconds before...
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