Posted: 2/22/2008 2:39:46 PM EDT
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I have a fare amount of supplies to bug in, but if I had to bug out, where to go? The family and I do alot of car camping, so we have alot of gear. We even have BOBs set up for each of us if we have to go by foot. My extra vehicle is a F150, so I guess we would head for the nearest national forest, it's close enough. Is there anyone else out there in my position? Where will you head? |
| away from any large city...national park, state park, national wilderness area...doesn't matter much to me. If SHTF bad enough for me to say SEE YAH I want to be away from people and not near them. Wherever I go it won't be close to a road and will take some considerable effort/desire to get there so that lowers the chances of some random person running into me. |
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There will be a whole hell of alot of people that will take their chances in the national forests. I honestly believe that it will be burned to the ground in a matter of months when the city morons go out and try to find food. It is not really going to be the place to be. You would be better off getting to know folks who have land. Maybe family or friends who are some what like minded. |
I concur. |
| I agree with both of you....but what my intentions are is to move very deep into the wilderness...not just camp at established sites in a national forest. In my worst case SHTF situation, which is essentially a meltdown of society, I'll be heading deep into the woods and will try to survive as best I can for as long as possible before having to return to whatever fragment of society is left to try to find whatever supplies I need and then get the hell out of there as fast as possible. More realistically I'll just be some sort of what I call a wildfire event, which is it starts out slow and quickly gets worse and stays bad for a while before being put out or running its course. In those kinds of situations I'd just need to get off the beaten path for a little while and hopefully by then things will have calmed down if it required me to leave home (which would have to be some sort of evac or event where I feel that evac is necessary). I have no BOL, most of my friends live in densely populated areas, and it would have to be something pretty bad for me to leave. |
Thats not always viable for everyone. For example, I live in PA for a grand total of 4 months of the year with my parents, the other 8 are spent at school in NC where I live in the dorms. Renting a camp ground is A. a waste of money since I'm to busy with school to use on in NC and I'm not around long enough in PA to make any use of it and B. if it is pre-established there is a good chance others will find it. I also have a pretty good knowledge of the local national forest and surrounding areas where I am here in NC as well as very good USGS topo maps and I'm fairly confident in my orienteering to get to places with just a compass and map. In PA I would be heading to one of two places, both of which are fairly remote and I've camped at several times and have yet to have had anyone come across me there. You also have to realize that I am a very small minority, a college student who has the survival prep mindset. In NC the school should be providing for us, if they bail out then I'm heading out as well. At home my parents aren't going to leave the house so I'm of more use there than bugging out. Some of you may say that, that is piss poor planning...well...when you have a 60yr old mother who has a hard enough time getting around as it is you're more likely to dig in than move out. Hence why I said shit would have to get really bad for me to be leaving. After 9/11 I had a talk with my parents about the possibility of some catastrophic event happening and what should be done in that situation. They pretty much made it very clear that I do whatever I have to to ensure my own survival and not theirs. It sucks and I'm not happy about it, but I understand their position and if they tell me to go I will leave without question or hesitation and not look back. I would essentially become a refugee at that point, but given the situation for that to occur I'd not have much choice in the matter. |
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The Grizzly Adams types here are pretty funny and it is entertaining to read about how they plan to live off the land wife and kid in tow for an undetermined amount of time. Anyone who has ever been through a structured survival course will tell you that even a week out in the wilderness cut off from modern goods can take a real toll. Heading for the hills is instinct and I understand that, but if things have become so bad you can't bug-out to a friend's or relative's house than you need to give strong thought to fighting in place and a bug-in. Living out in the woods with a tent and only what you can carry or sleeping out your car with no place to go is something of last resort in my opinion. |
yeah, I know my duration out in the woods would be maybe a a week and a half to two weeks before I would have exhausted my supplies and that would be extreme rationing and hoping that I could forage some food too. If nothing else it will get me XXXmi further away from where I started. I figure my car has about a 500mi range on one tank of gas, on foot I can manage about 20mi a day on trails so I could probably get another 200mi. <eta> I'd be on my own too so thats a plus and a minus |
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You want to get away from big populations of system-dependent people. Your user info says WI -- I would head North past Wausau bypassing the twin cities and Duluth and then west toward ND and Jamestown. Any friends in small towns up there? or perhaps take a few camping trips and locate a good camping spot in a national forest. You might want to cashe some gear and have plenty of gas stored at your house to get you to your BOL even if you tank is initially on empty (which Murphy says it will). Yes it is COLD up there in frostbite falls country, but I would rather winter camp for a few months than have to deal with 10^7 system-dependent people in a major panic. |
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We are in between Milwaukee and Madison in a town of 20,000. This is of course a last resort to leave. My brother and sisters would be eaten for sure. They look at me like I'm CRAZZZY with the preps and all. So there is no salvation with family members or friends. With the duel tanks on the truck and the four 5 Gal. gas cans, 3 are always full, I could easily make it to no mans land. The last thing I would like to be doing during SHTF is traveling more than necessary. The national forest is within 30 miles. The wife and I will be moving out west in 4 year when our daughter is done with school. So buying property isn't an option. I was just wondering what you guys thought. |