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12/13/2007 5:13:53 AM EDT
I have a few questions about how you would set these up from your Generator to inside your house.

1. My 5000w Generator comes with a 20 amp Cord (rated 7500 watts) with a 4 plug box on the end. Should I use this to get the power inside my house and then run other extension cords to the necessary appliances/items? or should I run each appliance with its own extension cord straight from the Generator?



2. How should I get the cords inside the house without letting the cold air, snow or rain in? Door, window or ?????? I have my own ideas I just want to hear from someone who has done this in an actual emergency situation.



3. I plan on using 15 amp cords to either run straight from the Generator or branch off of the main 20 amp cord. The largest items I will run is a large fridge. Startup amps of 11.6. A 15amp (1875watts) cord should handle this. Maybe a Microwave (1.5 kw). I think this is 1500 watts? I plan on using a 20amp cord for this but not at the same time the Fridge is running.


4. How long should I run the Fridge each session? 1 hour, 2 hours?


5. My Generator is not the inverter type. Should I run the extension cord to a surge protector if I am running my appliances? What about a TV, DVD or computer? I have a large MONSTER Brand surge protector I use for my stereo and Plasma TV. I could use this to connect my most sensitive items?


All help is appreciated.

AccurateOne
12/13/2007 6:09:05 AM EDT
[#1]
1. Only if the generator circuit is protected by a 20A breaker on the generator.

2. Thru the window, block the opening with duct tape and cardboard.

3. A 5kW should run both the fridge and the microwave provided that notheing else is running.

4. Until the internal temp pulls down to 40* or less.

5. Generator power is not clean, you probably should not run anything electronic unless necessary.

Given the nature of your questions, you should probably consult an electrician.  Electricity can kill you.  It will also set things on fire and your appliances aren't going to like running on long extension cords.

I'd suggest that you get a quote on having an emergency panel installed with the proper circuits, and a transfer switch to disconnect from the main power and connect the generator.  You don't mention a water pump, are you on city water?

The generator should not run 24/7 during an outage.  Run it for an hour or so each morning and evening to pump water and run the refrigeration.  Be aware that you will be using at a minimum 1 gallon of fuel per hour.  How much fuel can you store?

I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but if you don't know what you are doing disastrous results can follow.

Ops
12/13/2007 9:58:02 AM EDT
[#2]
Good info, Ops.

If you want to rely on the generator as a regular part of your plan, have your house  wired for it.  Safer on you, your stuff and others as well.

12/13/2007 10:19:34 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for these last 2 posts. I have been debating whether to use a professional electrician or try to do it myself.

You just made that decision for me. I was leaning that way and just got over the hump.

Thanks again.
12/13/2007 11:28:41 AM EDT
[#4]
Regarding the fridge & how long to run. I bought a digital thermometer at Radio Shack. I also got a couple extra sensors. I put one in the fridge and one in the freezer. That way I can monitor temps without opening the doors.

ETA: Its not too hard to install a transfer switch but as mentioned above electricity kills.
12/13/2007 2:56:53 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Regarding the fridge & how long to run. I bought a digital thermometer at Radio Shack. I also got a couple extra sensors. I put one in the fridge and one in the freezer. That way I can monitor temps without opening the doors.


     
     Can you possibly post a pic or link to the type of remote thermometer and how you have it set up
12/13/2007 3:13:53 PM EDT
[#6]
www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200321027_200321027




Screw cords do it right and your life with your genny will be much beter. As Ops said have an electrician install it.
12/13/2007 5:34:05 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Be aware that you will be using at a minimum 1 gallon of fuel per hour.  How much fuel can you store?




At half-load, my 5000 watt genny will drink 5 gallons every twelve hours.

Do the math on how long of an outage you may have to contend with -

Do the math on how much gas you can reasonably and safely store -

Then, figure out how much electricity you really need as opposed to wanting.


I have a Honda 1000 watt genny for extended outages.  (6/10ths of a gallon every 8 hours)
12/13/2007 5:56:18 PM EDT
[#8]
I've got a Yamaha 2800i - plan to run the necessities off of extension cords until I can get a transfer panel.  Considering the cost of the panel to be put in by a pro, and my other priorities it won't be happening any time soon though.
12/14/2007 4:15:07 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Regarding the fridge & how long to run. I bought a digital thermometer at Radio Shack. I also got a couple extra sensors. I put one in the fridge and one in the freezer. That way I can monitor temps without opening the doors.


     
     Can you possibly post a pic or link to the type of remote thermometer and how you have it set up


I don't know how to post pics. You can go to Walmart or Radio Shack. They have Digital readout (LCD) thermometers. Most of them you can use multiple wireless sensors. I have one outside, one in the freezer, & one in the refridgerater. The main unit has 2 displays. One displays show temp at the unit the other display can be toggled betyween the other 3 sensors. Works well.
12/14/2007 10:54:08 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Be aware that you will be using at a minimum 1 gallon of fuel per hour.  How much fuel can you store?




At half-load, my 5000 watt genny will drink 5 gallons every twelve hours.

Do the math on how long of an outage you may have to contend with -

Do the math on how much gas you can reasonably and safely store -

Then, figure out how much electricity you really need as opposed to wanting.


I have a Honda 1000 watt genny for extended outages.  (6/10ths of a gallon every 8 hours)




Man, mine uses 3/5ths of a gallon every 8 hours.
12/14/2007 3:59:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Thanks for the help on the posts.  As for figuring out your fuel consumptions you should
only use the generator to run the fridges and freezers for an hour or so every three to
four hours.  This will keep your food for days.  Think of the people in the midwest that are
going to be without power for at least 10 more days.  I keep 2 55 gallon drums of fuel
for my genny and 5 gallons of white gas for stoves and lanterns.  I also have several 1#
propane bottles and 4 20#ers to top off the 1#ers.  These will run my heater, another
lantern and coleman stove.  This should get my family through 10 to 14 days of bad
weather.
12/14/2007 4:22:56 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I have a few questions about how you would set these up from your Generator to inside your house.

1. My 5000w Generator comes with a 20 amp Cord (rated 7500 watts) with a 4 plug box on the end. Should I use this to get the power inside my house and then run other extension cords to the necessary appliances/items? or should I run each appliance with its own extension cord straight from the Generator?

Yes use the 20amp cord and run 4 things off it , run longer cords off the 20amp if you need to and then run a dedicated cord to any other plugin on the genny.


2. How should I get the cords inside the house without letting the cold air, snow or rain in? Door, window or ?????? I have my own ideas I just want to hear from someone who has done this in an actual emergency situation.

I go through a window and plug the hole with foam or something.

3. I plan on using 15 amp cords to either run straight from the Generator or branch off of the main 20 amp cord. The largest items I will run is a large fridge. Startup amps of 11.6. A 15amp (1875watts) cord should handle this. Maybe a Microwave (1.5 kw). I think this is 1500 watts? I plan on using a 20amp cord for this but not at the same time the Fridge is running.
See #1

4. How long should I run the Fridge each session? 1 hour, 2 hours?

I run the genny as long as we want to watch TV or the computers , it runs for 8hrs on a tank.
5. My Generator is not the inverter type. Should I run the extension cord to a surge protector if I am running my appliances? What about a TV, DVD or computer? I have a large MONSTER Brand surge protector I use for my stereo and Plasma TV. I could use this to connect my most sensitive items?

Go ahead and use it , it cant hurt.
All help is appreciated.

AccurateOne
12/15/2007 2:46:36 AM EDT
[#13]
Thanks to all! I love this site!!!!!