Posted: 11/16/2007 4:37:01 PM EDT
| What/where are some good sources for dealing with this? |
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www.unitedstatesaction.com/nuclear_radiation_and_fallout.htm this one looks like fun: www.fas.org/main/content.jsp?formAction=297&contentId=426 don't know about this one, but the pics are pretty: members.aol.com/rafleet/hazmaps.htm Google is your friend man!  This is my personal plan for a shelter for my family, in the event a nuclear attack is pending: www.cybertrn.demon.co.uk/atomic/shelters/main.htm |
| It's hard to figure out who's right. You've got the "feel good" info that makes it sound like anyone that doesn't die immediately could survive a nuclear blast just by taping up their windows and staying indoors. Then you've got the school of thought where a dedicated room in your house insulated with the right materials should get you through. Then you've got the hardcore people that are convinced that if you don't have a dedicated fallout shelter with blast valves, several feet of earth, steel and concrete and proper filtration then you're screwed. So what should most people feel comfortable with? |
I think the confusion comes from how close you want to be to the boom and survive. If you are in Idaho and Seattle gets torched, then hanging in the basement for a few weeks should probably do the trick. But if your 20 miles from downtown Seattle and they get the sunshine, then maybe a hardened concrete shelter might not be enough... Of course the problem there is also how the heck do you know when to go into the shelter. If your 20 miles away and sitting in your living room and see the light, you don't have the time anyway... Sitting 5 miles from DT PDX as I type this, If PDX gets it, it was nice knowing ya'all. But if Seattle or most of CA gets it, I'm probably OK. (Until the looters mobilize, then I have to build a wall with .223.) My ultimate goal is to get about 250 miles east of here permanently in about 8 months. I just don't see anyone nuking the Palouse... 
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The three keys to radiation protection are as follows: Time, Distance and Shielding. Time: Limit you exposure time as little as possible-the faster your in "the bunker" the better and reduce trips outside or into knwon contaminated fields. Distance: The closer you are to the source of the radioactivity, the more exposure you receive and vice versa. Shielding: Use "shielding" to protect yourself from the source of radioactivity. The term "half value layers" refers to how much of a substance is required to reduce the radiation exposure by half the value. E.g. paper has a very low 1/2 value layer, so you'd need lots and lots of paper stacked together to reduce the radiation exposure, where lead has a better half value layer, and compared to the paper, you'd need a thin slice to reduce the exposure by half. www.ndt-ed.org/EducationResources/CommunityCollege/Radiography/Physics/HalfValueLayer.htm see also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_poisoning |
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You can thank me after you've read all 510 pages -- posted near the bottom of page 2: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=17&t=487401&page=2 Be sure to use the "Save a Copy" function in Adobe reader so you can save it. |
| I am concidering getting a concrete tornado shelter before we build on to the house... this is a perfect time to take it a step further and prepare, for what I fear, is the inevitable. The thickness of the poured conbcrete is only 6", so I will have to add some 12" blocks all around and fill with sand. You know those shelters I'm talking about spooner? By mitchell concrete there on 31 in saginaw... they run for about $2000 delivered. I was gonna lag bolt it to my carport pad, then build aorund it... that ways I don't have to go outside during bad storms and the 'sunshine dust' I unfortunately don't have a basement, this is my next option... that is until I move back into the country and build a house then. |
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Don't forget the roof. People always forget the roof. In order to protect yourself from the fallout, ou have to have just as much above as you do around you. Make sure the Shelter you're looking at will hold enough weight for your extra concrete/sand or whatever you want to put on top. Truely, I think without going underground, you'll have a hard time completing your task. 
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