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10/16/2007 11:33:44 PM EDT
    What is the ratio of regular unscented Clorox bleach to water
as a disinfectant to sanitize a hard surface that is exposed to bloodborne
pathogens that could potentially be infected with HIV/Hep C, etc?

  If I use too much, I'll be wasting precious bleach, and the same with
too little.  Bleach is one of those multipurpose items that has many SHTF
uses.  Still havent located a source for the powdered pool "preserver" type.
10/17/2007 5:06:04 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:

Making it work better


1 cup to 1 gallon?  That should kill anything!
10/17/2007 6:51:39 AM EDT
[#3]
We used to use a 10% bleach solution to clean contaminated equipment in remote medical facilities.


10/17/2007 7:00:31 AM EDT
[#4]
1.5 to 10 ppm of chlor at a near-nuetral pH.

you can use a common pool water test kit to check the ppm and pH

With regular strength household bleach(about 5% Sodium Hypochlorite), you would need to add .26 fluid ounces to every 100 gallons to introduce 1 ppm of chlorine.

Chlorine is used up at differing rates depending on the amount of organic material in the water, so you would want to add chlorine slowly enough to where it could hold 1.5-10 ppm for more than an hour outside of direct sunlight. When you are initially treating the water, you would want to do it in an open container so any gases can escape. Filter after treatment, then check for proper ppm before you seal it and store it.

Sunlight depletes chlorine in unsealed containers. If you are going to drink a small amount, leaving it in direct sunlight for 10 minutes will liberate some chlorine gas from the water, making a more pleasant drink.

You do not want to use any other form of chlorine for your drinking water. Calcium Hypochlorite adds solids to the water such as calcium, and certain byproducts that do not dissolve and cannot be taken out. Trichlor has cyanuric acid in it to stabilize the chlorine so sunlight won't easily deplete it. These are good to use as surface cleaners or to start fires.
10/17/2007 9:38:24 PM EDT
[#5]

"Bleach is a much more effective antimicrobial chemical at an acidic pH value than at the alkaline Ph value at which bleach is manufactured and stored. A small amount of household vinegar is sufficient to lower the pH of bleach to an acidic range," says Miner.



  Hey ALKVA, thanks for that link, I store small quantities of white vinegar anyway
and never knew that mixing the two would make a stong disinfectant.  I had
vinegar available for cooking and health purposes anyway.
10/17/2007 10:28:32 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

"Bleach is a much more effective antimicrobial chemical at an acidic pH value than at the alkaline Ph value at which bleach is manufactured and stored. A small amount of household vinegar is sufficient to lower the pH of bleach to an acidic range," says Miner.



  Hey ALKVA, thanks for that link, I store small quantities of white vinegar anyway
and never knew that mixing the two would make a stong disinfectant.  I had
vinegar available for cooking and health purposes anyway.


I posted something here a year or two ago about reports that bleach was more effective in a slightly acidic environment.  I think there was a bit of skepticism, but I am still inclined to believe it's true.  It's not going to hurt, and it might help, so what's to lose?
10/18/2007 9:44:10 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

"Bleach is a much more effective antimicrobial chemical at an acidic pH value than at the alkaline Ph value at which bleach is manufactured and stored. A small amount of household vinegar is sufficient to lower the pH of bleach to an acidic range," says Miner.



  Hey ALKVA, thanks for that link, I store small quantities of white vinegar anyway
and never knew that mixing the two would make a stong disinfectant.  I had
vinegar available for cooking and health purposes anyway.


Change the pH of the water, NOT the chlorine. Adding acids to chlorine creates chlorine gas, which reduces the amount of chlorine available for disinfection. A properly balanced ph of 7.2-7.8 in water will provide the best sanitization properties for water, providing optimal levels of hypochlorous acid and its conjugate base, hypochlorite ion

The vinegar suggestion is for surface cleaning, not liquid sanitization.