Posted: 6/24/2007 11:27:52 PM EDT
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I saw this knive on LA Policegear lapolicegear.com/lmfiiasek.html It seems lile a good deal but when I posted it in GD it came back that I should get a K-Bar. My question is aren't Gerber good knives? What would be the difference? thanks |
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I have had and have carried more then a few Gerbers, right now I carry a Gerber Applegate folder, and I think the quality of the steel in these new knives are not as good as what the old ones used to be. I bought a gerber bolt action knife back in the 1980s and carried it every day for years. Would take a razor edge and keep it for ever.Same with the Magnum hunters I have had....Sure can't say that about my new Applegate or other new gerbers I have had. I think part of the problim is that they are more concerned with the blade rusting or breaking so go with the steel they are using now. I really want to like a Gerber knife too because like I said I have had a bunch that were good knives but I don't think I would ever buy a new one to use. I do think my gerber applegate is made well it's just that the steel is crap Personaly I don't know why anyone would buy one of these new knives for a price like this when you can get what I think is a better knife with better steel for cheap by looking for an older vintage knife.I know lots of guys don't like a big knife [ but hey you never know when a Mt. Lion will jump you, eh?  ] but I think in a SHTF situation I would be carring my WWII era MK2 Kabar [paid $10 for it] on my belt and an old Marbels wood craft strapped to my pack. ....Don't know how any knife could do any better then these .....Todd
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it's a good knife. the kbar is also a good one. but you have to realize they are just knives. not axes or shovels or any other tool that is better to do a job other than cutting. i think you need a knife to eat with and a knife to work with. both should be durable and have comfortable handles. i never did "use" or work with my big knives so most of them have gone away. sold or traded for other tools. i can cut rope with a small folder just as well as a big knife sure it's not as cool as a big knife on your hip but then i would rather have two little knives and a mag of ammo than a little knife and a big knife. good luck. handle both and figure out which one fits best in your hand and seems the best. you can't go wrong with either. |
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Ok, here we go again. The Gerber LMF/ASEK is a good knife if you can get it for under $80. But keep in mind what it was designed for. It is an escape/survival knife. The "skull crusher pommel" is actually a chisel grind point to break through plexiglass helicopter windows. It is also electrically isolated from the blade. With the full wrap around polymer handle, that means that the knife is merely a stick tang. While this saves on weight, it drastically reduces the overall strength of the blade. It is a cutting tool and nothing more. As for the steel, well, the gerber sent production overseas a long time ago, so YMMV. And with the half serrated blade- you are in trouble trying to sharpen those without proper tools. Ranger knives are good knives. I used to lump them in with Busse/Cold Steel/Becker and all of the other thick black coated blades. Most of them have and edge so thick you can't cut much less than a 2X4 effectively. However, I have learned that Ranger does a full height flat grind with a convex edge. Doesn't get much better than that. |
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I just picked this one up for $43. Retails for $80. Its 440c which is high quality for that price or just high quality period. The thing is a tank, very very solid and holds and edge very well. http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Smith-Wesson-S-W-Homeland-Security-CKSURG-Knife_W0QQitemZ190124842310QQihZ009QQcategoryZ43326QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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I'd rule that knife out for two reasons: 1. An upper guard on the hilt does nothing but get in the way. 2. The serrations are on the part of the blade used to do precision work, and they make precision work impossible. They're also difficult to sharpen. Kabar? It's a fighting knife, and a mediocre one at that. For the thousand things that knives are more commonly used for - cutting meat or vegetables, carving, camp chores, etc., it's all but useless. Unless you find yourself stabbing great numbers of people, look for a practical knife with about a 4" plain blade, a full tang and no upper guard. |
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Here is a photo of my RD7 with a satin finish, sheath was made by Kevin who has an ad in the blade fourm. To order a ranger cut out the middle man and go directly to the source...Send Justin Gingrich an email at @ [email protected] and he will turn around your order in under a week. I was so impressed with this knife that I order two RD6 with the same finish, one for myself and one for my bro. BTW the RD6 was $100 shipped http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s197/bearmott/100_0951-1.jpg http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s197/bearmott/100_0950-1.jpg |
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Ragincajun, The S&W knives are made imported by Taylor Cutlery from Taiwan. They do seem like very sturdy knives, but are little more than wall hangers. 440C is about the bottom of the barrel when it comes to quality steel. You did get a fair price on the knife, considering average retail is actually $34.99. Still the knife is far to thick to do much serious cutting. Sure you can chop down a tree with the thing, but at the same time it can't cut your steak like a razor blade. The thing with knives is that there is no one do-all knife. I carry at least 3. A large fixed chopper 7"+ blade on my pack, a medium fixed blade 4-6" long, and a largish folder. And thats in addition to my multitools. As far as steel is concerned, stay away from anything labeled 440,420, 8A, AUS8, or "Surgical Steel". Surgical Steel is used for bedpans, not scalpels. Now as for the brands that don't break the bank: Bark River Becker- requires modding for ultimate utility Ranger Ontario RTAK, RAT, TAK series Entrek Some Cold Steel- SRK, ODA. All require modding for best performance. |
It will cut the shit out of a steak, and a tree, and just about anything I put in front of it. Im sure there are better steels, but this one will definitely suffice. What would you recommend, something like ats-34? |
I have no idea why people are in love with these big assed friggin guns, "clips"  I use a single shot and have never felt like I needed more gun for the task.. |