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4/24/2007 7:45:14 AM EDT
I know that my local Red Cross offers cpr/first aid courses, which I am goign to be taking soon, but i am unable to find any first responder courses or the like around here.  Do any of you know where I can find out about these types of more advanced courses?  Thanks.
4/24/2007 8:19:40 AM EDT
[#1]
Contact your local Fire Department. Ask if they provide EMS service. If they do they will be able to point you to a program in your area. If you live in one of the few areas of the country where the FD doesn't do any EMS then find the local rescue squad or contract EMS agency that covers your area and they should be able to help you out. ]

If you intend to take 1st Responder or EMT-B in the near future I wouldn't bother with ARC 1st aid. I'm not saying it's a bad course but 1st Responder will give you the same information and then a LOT more.

I personally recommend that anyone serious about this board should take a 1st Responder program, even if they don't get the certificiation they'll have the knowledge.


Eddie
4/24/2007 9:38:28 AM EDT
[#2]
You can also check with your local community college.  At least where I am from, most offer both first resp. and EMT B.
+1 on everyone taking first responder.  It is a great course to give you a solid emergency med base to build off of.
4/24/2007 10:39:44 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks, a friend of mine is a firefighter, I will ask him. If that fails I will check with the local community college.
4/24/2007 10:47:20 AM EDT
[#4]
the best certification I have received is wilderness first responder


It is a more advanced than a EMT-b certification.  

The best part is the teach you how to delivery longer care and make diagnosis.   This is because you have the potential to be treating a patient for several days.  

downside is it will likely be hard to find someone offering the class


My class was actually taught by and ER doc of 20 years.  
4/24/2007 10:52:10 AM EDT
[#5]
That would be a nice one ot get since I spend A LOT of time in the wilderness (mountainbiking, climbing, running, boating, etc).  I will definitely have to look around for that near me.  Thanks.
4/24/2007 12:21:25 PM EDT
[#6]
WMI-NOLS.  Link

or SOLO Link
4/24/2007 12:58:55 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
the best certification I have received is wilderness first responder


It is a more advanced than a EMT-b certification.  

The best part is the teach you how to delivery longer care and make diagnosis.   This is because you have the potential to be treating a patient for several days.  

downside is it will likely be hard to find someone offering the class


My class was actually taught by and ER doc of 20 years.  


+1 for the woofer course.

final was having 4-5 scenarios set up with full makeup for injuries,  you show up first responder at the scene and have to triage and stabilise and long term care.

wfr teaches three things you can do for wilderness you can't do anywhere else-  reduce dislocated patella's, shoulders, and something else- probably a finger or thumb- i forgot.

4/24/2007 1:23:19 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:
the best certification I have received is wilderness first responder


It is a more advanced than a EMT-b certification.  

The best part is the teach you how to delivery longer care and make diagnosis.   This is because you have the potential to be treating a patient for several days.  

downside is it will likely be hard to find someone offering the class


My class was actually taught by and ER doc of 20 years.  


+1 for the woofer course.

final was having 4-5 scenarios set up with full makeup for injuries,  you show up first responder at the scene and have to triage and stabilise and long term care.

wfr teaches three things you can do for wilderness you can't do anywhere else-  reduce dislocated patella's, shoulders, and something else- probably a finger or thumb- i forgot.



Clear the C-spine.
4/24/2007 2:59:05 PM EDT
[#9]
Wow, thanks for the links.  Those look ideal, but I will have to check my checking account (just had to pay $6500 taxes, bastards really screw you when you are self employed, haha) and see what is near me, and when. Thanks again.
4/24/2007 3:05:54 PM EDT
[#10]
I've looked at the above links, and the courses look great!
I wonder if there any places that offer these courses, but cater to those
of us who can't manage to pull a couple of weeks to a month away from work?
4/24/2007 6:26:04 PM EDT
[#11]
check out fema.com.  look under responders.  they have many classes you can take, not hands on, but you get the info.

nct
4/25/2007 10:00:23 AM EDT
[#12]
I think that I am going to have to wait on the Wilderness First Responder, since it costs $575 for the closest one to me (and I would have to get a place to stay for 2 weeks).  My friend that works at the local fire dept. said that they are holding a first responder course in Sept. and it will only cost me $25-$50.  I think that I will do that for now. I am also going to order the WMI Wilderness FR textbook and be going through it until I can take the WMI course, just to get better acquainted with the information before I get involved.  Thanks for everyone's help.
4/25/2007 10:31:50 AM EDT
[#13]
I have always camped when taking WFR and refresher courses.  So finding a place to stay hasn't been an issue.

The plus side of taking a FR course with the fire department is that you will meet other people in your community and they will prep you to hand people off to them.  You will get good specific training and make good connections.  In my experience, the WFR is heavy on backcountry applications and a little light on the hand off to front country care.