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Posted: 4/15/2017 3:03:23 PM EDT
Well I bought a Larue FDE 7.62 Heavy, and the 18" and 22" .260 barrels, and FDE 34mm scope mount.  With that said I have a Ruger RPR with a 3-18X50 gen 2 Razor.  I am thinking about mounting the Razor on the Larue, and getting a new scope for the RPR.

I was thinking about going with alittle more magnification. I see that SWFA has a sale going on for the SS HD 5-20x50 for $1274, but this would require new rings and wouldn't be much more magnification.

https://swfa.com/catalog/product/view/id/105472/?___SID=U

Or I was looking at the Primary Arms platinum DEKA  6-36x56.  Could use the same rings I have already, saving close to the price difference between the two.

http://www.primaryarms.com/new-primary-arms-platinum-series-6-30x56-ffp-scope-with-deka-mil-reticle-pa6-30x56ffp-deka-ams


I want to get a scope back on it soon.  But since I spent close to $5000 with Larue, I don't have the buget to drop $2000+ on another Razor.  I might check the EE for some but even used NF, and Gen 2 Razors are going for $1900+.  

So whats the Hives opinion?
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 3:23:47 PM EDT
[#1]
IMO the answer is always night force. paying top dollar for "premium" china scopes boggles my mind. even the SS is supposed to be a value scope. $1250?????
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 3:43:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
IMO the answer is always night force. paying top dollar for "premium" china scopes boggles my mind. even the SS is supposed to be a value scope. $1250?????
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I know I am in the minority, but I agree with you 100%!
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 3:48:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
IMO the answer is always night force. paying top dollar for "premium" china scopes boggles my mind. even the SS is supposed to be a value scope. $1250?????
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Night Force's are great.  But I think I remember the SWFA SS HD being made in Japan as well.  I can't remember the Primary Arms it might be Japan too, or Japanese glass assembled in the Philippines.  These are not China scopes, and I wouldn't even consider them if they were, but they aren't cheap scopes suppose to be high quality with the middle man cut out to bring the price down.

I might end up getting a Night Force off the EE.  But wanted to see if others have used these.  Just don't want to let the rifle sit scopeless while I play with the new toy .  Afraid the RPR might not get a second chance if it sit idle. I still have to order a case or 2 of Prime .260 Remington. Also have 3 cans I am getting ready to send tax money in for in a week or so. Then order reloading dies, supplies, so the scope budget of $2500 won't be replinished tell around year end.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 4:54:17 PM EDT
[#4]
Either the Nightforce ATACR 4-16 F1 or GII Razor 3-18 would be a solid choice. Those are two very impressive scopes and can be had for under $2,000 (used).
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 5:24:44 PM EDT
[#5]
I'm a Kahles guy.  624i is a nice optic.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:12:42 PM EDT
[#6]
Red Hawk Rifles has some Swavorski demos on sale.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:37:08 PM EDT
[#7]
Have you looked at the Athlon Cronus line ?
It's a great option in place it higher than the vortex and primary arms. And I own all three.
Link Posted: 4/15/2017 9:43:41 PM EDT
[#8]
NF 5-25 ATACR F1 MIL-R



Just do it.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 9:16:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/16/2017 1:07:50 PM EDT
[#10]
What is OP's budget?

The Nightfroce SHV F1 would be tough to beat in the $1200ish range. Great scope for the money.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 2:09:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mathecb:
What is OP's budget?

The Nightfroce SHV F1 would be tough to beat in the $1200ish range. Great scope for the money.
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Budget is less than $2000, the less the better.  I have 2 problems thou, I like nice stuff which usually cost more, and I'm a sucker for a good deal.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 2:25:41 PM EDT
[#12]
Why not a Gen I Razor? They can be had for around 1200$ used and close to 1400$ from certain vendors. The glass in mine isn't far off from my Razor Gen 2. The turrets and zero stop aren't as nice as the gen 2, but it'll get the job done at an attractive price point. The gen 2 PST may be a solid choice as well. If the glass was as good or better than the Gen 1 Razor, it'd be a no brainer.

Also, what is the purpose of the RPR? If it won't see hard use or competition, you may could go with great glass with less features to cut costs.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 4:49:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/16/2017 5:01:41 PM EDT
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I might look at the gen 1 razor.  The Gen 2 might have spoiled me to much thou.  I was hoping to be closer to $1500 but think I want to settle in the $2000 range.  I'm searching the ee now, and it's promising.  I will mostly be shooting the rpr 600-1000yrds.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 7:08:53 PM EDT
[#16]
Well there is your answer, grab that 4.5-27 and enjoy.

Having the same reticle and turrets is worth the extra money.

Plus you love your 3-18.
Link Posted: 4/16/2017 11:32:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Why not a a Sightron slll?
I heavily recommend you look at Athlon and Primary Arms.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:08:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By foreman2000:
Why not a a Sightron slll?
I heavily recommend you look at Athlon and Primary Arms.
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The SIII was where I was going with the great glass but less features comment. Superb resolution and good colors/contrast at their price point.
I'm not sure what primary arms has out now, but the only Athlon that is optically better than the SIII is the Cronus.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:32:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 11:35:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/17/2017 1:06:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SuperJlarge] [#21]
it will be interesting to see the reviews on the PA. Guessing LOW sourced glass?

I've tested the Ares side by side against a SIlI. The Ares has good glass for its price and feature set, but the SIII is better optically. Also, if you're used to the Razor Gen 2 turrets, you'll likely find the Ares turrets lacking a positive feel.
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 6:54:25 PM EDT
[#22]
A little higher budget and you could get into an Athlon Cronus. I've yet to see anything negative on them.

Or the Gen II Vortex Viper PST. The only drawback here in 50mm vs 56mm. May not matter much to you though.

I've been stewing on this same issue lately and have yet to make up my mind. I'm torn between the Cronus and Steiner T5Xi (upgraded turrets).
Link Posted: 4/17/2017 7:31:56 PM EDT
[#23]
Why would you spend top dollar on a high end weapon and then want to put a cheap scope on it?  Save your money and match the scope to the rifle.  NF would be my suggestion.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 7:29:20 AM EDT
[#24]
Another vote for nightforce. Keep an eye on the EE and you will see NXS 3.5-15x scopes go for around $1100 on a fairly regular basis. If you want a cheaper scope that is still built well, consider a basic bushnell tactical 10x scope. If purchased used on the EE they will run you a touch over $150. They are great scopes for the money.

I would also echo others that have said buy good glass. Even if that means you have to save for a bit. Honestly its cheaper in the long run and it will save you frustration.
Link Posted: 4/18/2017 4:31:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By andrewz71:
Well I bought a Larue FDE 7.62 Heavy, and the 18" and 22" .260 barrels, and FDE 34mm scope mount.  With that said I have a Ruger RPR with a 3-18X50 gen 2 Razor.  I am thinking about mounting the Razor on the Larue, and getting a new scope for the RPR.

I was thinking about going with alittle more magnification. I see that SWFA has a sale going on for the SS HD 5-20x50 for $1274, but this would require new rings and wouldn't be much more magnification.

https://swfa.com/catalog/product/view/id/105472/?___SID=U

Or I was looking at the Primary Arms platinum DEKA  6-36x56.  Could use the same rings I have already, saving close to the price difference between the two.

http://www.primaryarms.com/new-primary-arms-platinum-series-6-30x56-ffp-scope-with-deka-mil-reticle-pa6-30x56ffp-deka-ams

I want to get a scope back on it soon.  But since I spent close to $5000 with Larue, I don't have the buget to drop $2000+ on another Razor.  I might check the EE for some but even used NF, and Gen 2 Razors are going for $1900+.  

So whats the Hives opinion?
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Gen 1 razor.
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