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Link Posted: 5/20/2017 8:16:12 PM EDT
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So just got a semi 6.5cm with a 22" barrel.

I've decided to go striaght into reloading with this rifle. Went to pick up some h4350, but couldn't find any so ended up grabbing Hodgson Hornady superperformance. Is this any good?

Was planning on working some loads for 120s and 140 using Hornady bullets. Seems like 140 are the preferred though.
Link Posted: 5/21/2017 12:30:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By anthony20031:

So just got a semi 6.5cm with a 22" barrel.

I've decided to go striaght into reloading with this rifle. Went to pick up some h4350, but couldn't find any so ended up grabbing Hodgson Hornady superperformance. Is this any good?

Was planning on working some loads for 120s and 140 using Hornady bullets. Seems like 140 are the preferred though.
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Look up moparmadman channel on YouTube. He has some great 6.5 CM loading videos and has tested superformance in some videos
Link Posted: 5/21/2017 4:21:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By md7989:


Look up moparmadman channel on YouTube. He has some great 6.5 CM loading videos and has tested superformance in some videos
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Thanks for the info!
Link Posted: 5/21/2017 6:02:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By anthony20031:

So just got a semi 6.5cm with a 22" barrel.

I've decided to go striaght into reloading with this rifle. Went to pick up some h4350, but couldn't find any so ended up grabbing Hodgson Hornady superperformance. Is this any good?

Was planning on working some loads for 120s and 140 using Hornady bullets. Seems like 140 are the preferred though.
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Im playing with Reloder 16 and seem to like it. Its a pretty close match for H4350
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:19:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: right_rudder] [#5]
43.8gr RE16 Berger 130gr Hybrid      
Average MV: 2844.33
ES 29.24 
SD 11.34

ETA

22" trued R700
73 Degrees F
10 shot average
.8" Group with two shots pulled that opened up the group
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 10:01:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Little_Bird] [#6]
147gr ELD-M (G7 of 0.351!!!)
42.3gr Reloder 16 (Found a flat spot with the RL 16 42.1 and 42.5gr)
CCI 200 LR
Hornady Brass, 0.288" neck bushing
2.35" CBTO (basically loading just under max length for an AICS Accurate Mag)

2710 fps out of a 24" stock Tikka T3x CTR barrel. 7fps SD with 17fps ES. I loaded these rounds at the range, and there was an ever so slight breeze on the scale. I imagine loading them at home would tighten up the ES.
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 9:48:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Little_Bird:
147gr ELD-M (G7 of 0.351!!!)
42.3gr Reloder 16 (Found a flat spot with the RL 16 42.1 and 42.5gr)
CCI 200 LR
Hornady Brass, 0.288" neck bushing
2.35" CBTO (basically loading just under max length for an AICS Accurate Mag)

2710 fps out of a 24" stock Tikka T3x CTR barrel. 7fps SD with 17fps ES. I loaded these rounds at the range, and there was an ever so slight breeze on the scale. I imagine loading them at home would tighten up the ES.
http://i.imgur.com/UC9NX5B.jpg
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Your data matches up with what I've heard from others. 
I found 200 147gr ELD-M at Cabelas today, gonna load up about 30 or 40 and test them in my two creedmoor rifles tomorrow. 
Link Posted: 6/13/2017 10:33:27 PM EDT
[#8]
Hornady 140gr BTHP
Hornady Brass
Winchester Large Rifle Primers
35.5gr Varget
2.820" COAL

2590FPS from a 24" Bergara
Link Posted: 6/14/2017 4:08:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Little_Bird:
147gr ELD-M (G7 of 0.351!!!)
42.3gr Reloder 16 (Found a flat spot with the RL 16 42.1 and 42.5gr)
CCI 200 LR
Hornady Brass, 0.288" neck bushing
2.35" CBTO (basically loading just under max length for an AICS Accurate Mag)

2710 fps out of a 24" stock Tikka T3x CTR barrel. 7fps SD with 17fps ES. I loaded these rounds at the range, and there was an ever so slight breeze on the scale. I imagine loading them at home would tighten up the ES.
http://i.imgur.com/UC9NX5B.jpg
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I tried your recipe this morning since I found some 147s. 
New hornady brass, CCI benchrest primers. 
Heres a pic of the best target for the day, along with chronograph data. 

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Link Posted: 6/20/2017 12:48:56 AM EDT
[#10]
That's awesome.
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 7:49:25 PM EDT
[#11]
1:8 savage 10fcp-SR box mag. 1 week old. approx 25rnds down the pipe. 

Hnady 130gr ELD-M38.0gr Varget2.800 OAL2750 fps consistant

good groups. should get me to 1200 just fine and wont wear out the barrel like 2900fps will. 

just used what i saw here and what i had on hand. thx guys! going to 1000yd range this weekend. 
Link Posted: 6/29/2017 7:50:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83] [#12]
1:8 savage 10fcp-SR box mag. 1 week old. approx 25rnds down the pipe. 

Hnady 130gr ELD-M
38.0gr Varget
2.800 OAL
2750 fps consistant
CCI BR2
Hornady brass. 

good groups 1" to sub moa 3 shots. im a 223 shooter so this i gotta adjust into for recoil. should get me to 1200yds just fine and wont wear out the barrel like 2900fps will. 

just used what i saw here and what i had on hand. thx guys! going to 1000yd range this weekend. 

EDIT: approx 29.5-30moa to 1k with this load. little wid drift...maybe 3moa tops on half value flag. really liking this load. can hit or get close to clays at 1050yds. 
Link Posted: 7/4/2017 12:50:00 AM EDT
[#13]
140 ELD-M
42.8 H4350
Federal 210
Hornady Brass
COAL 2.805 (.015 off lands)

Getting 2910 avg with an SD of 12  out of a 28" Bartlein Barrel with groups consistently under .5 MOA,
Link Posted: 7/18/2017 10:47:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: borderpatrol] [#14]
Anyone ever try Norma's 130 grain Golden Target 6.5 bullets?

OAL" 2.835" seated to jmp .010" in my 6.5 CM Bergara - 22" barrel.

Best accuarcy first day out using Lapua brass, CCI-450 primers and H4350 was found between 40.5 and 41.5 grains of powder. 41.0 pruduced a 5/8" five round group @ 100 yards in my rifle.
Link Posted: 8/17/2017 3:01:15 AM EDT
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Tried RE16 with some new brass and bullets.

Brass: Peterson 6.5 CM w/ LR primer pocket (neck sized with 0.288" Redding Type-S bushing)
Powder: Reloder 16
Charge: 43.4gr
Bullet: 130gr Berger AR Hybrid
Velocity: 2910 avg (SD of 8 fps over 10 shots)
CBTO: 2.257"
Jump: lol idk

Groups into nice little 0.5 MOA holes out of my 24" Tikka T3x. I noticed that the Peterson brass has less capacity than the Hornady brass I was used to. My 42.3gr charge for 147gr ELD-Ms disappears below the neck in Hornady brass, while that same charge in the Peterson brass actually comes up into the neck. Vibrating the brass with a small Oral-B toothbrush works well enough to settle the 43.4gr charge low enough so that I'm not crunching powder with the 130s. Sits right about level with the base of the neck.
Link Posted: 9/2/2017 11:54:32 PM EDT
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Anyone messing with hybrid 100v out of a Gasser in 140gr pills?
Link Posted: 9/4/2017 10:44:44 PM EDT
[#17]
140 ELD-M
42.6 H4350
CCI BR-2
Hornady Brass
.020 off the lands
Avg velocity 2820fps

Factory RPR 24" barrel. 1/2" groups. 7.9 sd/25 es
Tried Federal 210M primers as well. The CCI primers gave me better sd/es
Link Posted: 9/5/2017 11:10:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Little_Bird:
Tried RE16 with some new brass and bullets.

Brass: Peterson 6.5 CM w/ LR primer pocket (neck sized with 0.288" Redding Type-S bushing)
Powder: Reloder 16
Charge: 43.4gr
Bullet: 130gr Berger AR Hybrid
Velocity: 2910 avg (SD of 8 fps over 10 shots)
CBTO: 2.257"
Jump: lol idk

Groups into nice little 0.5 MOA holes out of my 24" Tikka T3x. I noticed that the Peterson brass has less capacity than the Hornady brass I was used to. My 42.3gr charge for 147gr ELD-Ms disappears below the neck in Hornady brass, while that same charge in the Peterson brass actually comes up into the neck. Vibrating the brass with a small Oral-B toothbrush works well enough to settle the 43.4gr charge low enough so that I'm not crunching powder with the 130s. Sits right about level with the base of the neck.
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I'm gonna go back and test 43.4 in the 130s. My load isn't far off from that but the SD is better 
Link Posted: 9/30/2017 8:10:30 AM EDT
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Ok while making brass for reloading (shooting) I picked up the following supplies:

Rifle is Howa HCR 24" 1-8

Brass: Hornady
Powder: H4350
Primer: CCI BR2
Bullet: Hornady 140gr ELD-M

From what I have been seeing those components are the most used. Except maybe for the brass. I'm not into max velocity but small groups. I will be neck sizing. New to this type of reloading and looking for a starting load and a suggested increment size for working up data. I have the Hornady book.

It looks like 40gr would be a good starting point?
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 1:27:48 PM EDT
[#20]
New lot of RL16 is 8% hotter than previously. New charge to hit the same avg. velocity is 43.0 grains.
Link Posted: 10/19/2017 12:58:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/22/2017 10:44:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: castlebravo84] [#22]
147 ELD-M
45.3gr Reloder 26
Lapua Brass, twice fired, 0.002" shoulder bumped, and collet neck sized
CCI 450 SRM
2.87" COAL for 0.020" jump

2755 fps from a 24" factory barrel Savage 10BA Stealth.  

First target was shot with Magnetospeed.  The low flyer was my cold bore shot, and the other four went into one hole.  The four shots after the cold bore had an ES of 5, and an SD of 2 fps.  Second target was five rounds without the Magnetospeed, and I pulled one of them.  I fired two more 5-shot groups with that load, but both of them had some horizontal stringing that I'm pretty sure was me.  They looked under 1/2 MOA in the vertical through my scope, but I didn't stick around for another cease fire to measure them.  I had also shot five rounds of this recipe over the chrono yesterday, and got an SD of 6.  The group on paper was the same story; tight vertical, ~1 MOA horizontal.  The extra magnification of my new 6-30x56 scope has revealed to me that my shooting from a Harris bipod and rear squeeze bag is not as stable as I had thought.  I can clearly see my POA dancing left and right now.  I think I have my rifle and ammo dialed in, so hopefully now I can make progress on improving my marksmanship.  



Link Posted: 10/22/2017 10:52:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/22/2017 11:01:44 PM EDT
[#24]
yes
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 11:31:01 PM EDT
[#25]
Anyone gathered a lot of chrono data with 4451 and either 130 Bergers or 140 Bergers?

ive got plenty of Reloder 16 but considering giving IMR4451 another pass but have heard the SDs were high.. is there any validity to this compared to H4350 or RE16?
Link Posted: 11/13/2017 11:29:00 PM EDT
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Anybody done anything with RL16, Lapua brass, and 140 grain ELDs?
Link Posted: 11/17/2017 8:11:49 AM EDT
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"Anyone gathered a lot of chrono data with 4451 and either 130 Bergers or 140 Bergers?"

I load both the Berger Hybrid AR and VLD hunting for two of my rifles with the same charge of 42.5 grains of 4451.

Im getting 2760 FPS wityh the VLD Hunters out of a 24" barreled Bergara BMP and 2650 FPS with the AR Hybrids out of an 18" barreled AR 10.

These were the results in my rifles so work up slowly!
Link Posted: 11/17/2017 9:24:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Crazyhorse26:

"Anyone gathered a lot of chrono data with 4451 and either 130 Bergers or 140 Bergers?"

I load both the Berger Hybrid AR and VLD hunting for two of my rifles with the same charge of 42.5 grains of 4451.

Im getting 2760 FPS wityh the VLD Hunters out of a 24" barreled Bergara BMP and 2650 FPS with the AR Hybrids out of an 18" barreled AR 10.

These were the results in my rifles so work up slowly!
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Thanks, I think I'm gonna revisit 4451 here pretty soon. But so far I like Reloder 16, even better then H4350.
Link Posted: 12/17/2017 4:55:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By md7989:
143 ELD-X
41.8 gr H4350
CCI 200
Hornady Brass
2.214" to ogive (0.020" off)

2755 fps out of 26" 6.5 Creedmoor Criterion on a 42 degree day

0.3" 5 shot groups, and even shot a 3 shot group with all 3 in one hole
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This is THE load with a 143.  Good job.
Link Posted: 3/29/2018 9:12:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: whiplash11] [#30]
Peterson lrp brass, 43.3 grain rl17, fed 210gmm at 2.795.

2935fps sd of 6.7. 20" weatherby vanguard.

129 grain ablr bullet
Link Posted: 5/10/2018 11:47:24 PM EDT
[#31]
147 gr ELD
45 gr H4831sc
C.O.L 2.805
0.4 MOA
2625 fps
ES 3-12 (depending on reloading technique)

Aero Precision M5E1
6.5 CM 20" Ballistic Advantage

I have shot this load several times at 1000 yards. Groups have been right at 6" or less if it's not too windy ( I suck at reading wind)
Link Posted: 5/12/2018 12:23:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Duffman_blasting] [#32]
130gr Berger AR Hybrid
42gr H4350
CCI BR4 small rifle primer
Lapua Brass
COAL 2.80
~2778 fps out of 24" Bartlein (and small amount faster with can)

I could probably go a bit higher velocity, but it is so accurate that I prefer this load.
Link Posted: 5/26/2018 9:58:14 PM EDT
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So far my favorite loads

Hornady 140eld-m
RL-17
39.4
Hornady AG fired brass





Same specs as above

RL 41.2
Link Posted: 6/6/2018 10:16:39 PM EDT
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I am shooting 140g Nosler RDF
41.5gr RL17
2.900" OAL
Starline brass
FGMM primers

Not getting the amazing results you are getting, but sub MOA if I do my part.
Link Posted: 6/7/2018 11:14:02 PM EDT
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31.5moa to 1050yds. cold bore busted a clay with:
130gr ELD
38GR VARGET
BR-2
Hornady brass

oal 2.802 ish
last velocity check was 2750fps

savage 10 6.5cm
Link Posted: 6/25/2018 8:18:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: owlless] [#36]
Delete

Wrong forum
Link Posted: 7/11/2018 9:22:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lazyengineer] [#37]
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
31.5moa to 1050yds. cold bore busted a clay with:
130gr ELD
38GR VARGET
BR-2
Hornady brass

oal 2.802 ish
last velocity check was 2750fps

savage 10 6.5cm
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Wups!  My bad!  That's elevation, not group size

Link Posted: 7/17/2018 9:07:19 AM EDT
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I see a couple of people have used the 140 eldm, I assume with H4350 it can make an accurate round?
Link Posted: 7/17/2018 9:36:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2018 12:49:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/17/2018 12:51:00 PM EDT
[#41]
Anyone have a decent duplicate of the FGMM 130 Berger load w/ H4350?
Link Posted: 7/20/2018 11:34:43 AM EDT
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I know this is slightly off topic but since creedmore dies are like a unicorn, I have been using factory ammo.  The Hornady Black 140 BTHP gave me less than 1 moa at 100 yards.
Link Posted: 7/20/2018 12:44:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vandy58:
I know this is slightly off topic but since creedmore dies are like a unicorn, I have been using factory ammo.  The Hornady Black 140 BTHP gave me less than 1 moa at 100 yards.
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All the Hornady factory loads and the FGMM 130s have been great performers in all my rifles
Link Posted: 7/20/2018 1:37:30 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/20/2018 3:17:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rob01:
Unicorn? Not sure where you are looking but they are all over the place.
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=creedmoor+dies&userItemsPerPage=48

The Hornady factory ammo has been doing great for me in matches since 2008.
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Originally Posted By Rob01:
Originally Posted By Vandy58:
I know this is slightly off topic but since creedmore dies are like a unicorn, I have been using factory ammo.  The Hornady Black 140 BTHP gave me less than 1 moa at 100 yards.
Unicorn? Not sure where you are looking but they are all over the place.
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=creedmoor+dies&userItemsPerPage=48

The Hornady factory ammo has been doing great for me in matches since 2008.
Locally I’ve had bad luck.  Midway just got the Redding hunter set in today.  I actually did an order about an hour ago
Link Posted: 9/17/2018 3:11:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SuperJlarge:
Anyone have a decent duplicate of the FGMM 130 Berger load w/ H4350?
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I have one that's close.

42.5 H4350
Fed 210M
Hornady brass
2.789 COAL

It could be made a little hotter, but I worked it up for my gas gun.  It's running ~2,750fps out of a 22" gas gun (Krieger barrel).  Very accurate.
Link Posted: 11/2/2018 9:37:42 AM EDT
[#47]


IMR 4350
Hornady 140 ELD
Federal 210
Hornady brass
Velocity 2800 ft/secs as per LabRadar
Std Dev = 10.1
24" Wiseman/MacMillan barrel
Rem 700 action
HS Precision stock
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:23:01 AM EDT
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24" MPA 6.5BA

42.2 h4350
Hornady brass, 3xfired
Fed 210m primer
140 Berger hybrid match
.022" off the lands (2.892 COAL)

42.4 isn't bad either.  Started seeing pressure signs at 42.6 and stiff bolt at 42.8.
Link Posted: 11/19/2018 12:16:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By avvidclif:
Ok while making brass for reloading (shooting) I picked up the following supplies:

Rifle is Howa HCR 24" 1-8

Brass: Hornady
Powder: H4350
Primer: CCI BR2
Bullet: Hornady 140gr ELD-M

From what I have been seeing those components are the most used. Except maybe for the brass. I'm not into max velocity but small groups. I will be neck sizing. New to this type of reloading and looking for a starting load and a suggested increment size for working up data. I have the Hornady book.

It looks like 40gr would be a good starting point?
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Ive had luck with that exact recipe in my JP barreled gas gun

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Link Posted: 11/20/2018 10:06:13 PM EDT
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Anybody got a recipe for hornady 147gr and RE16 for a gas gun?

ive been running my standard 42.3 RE16 but interested in what others are running in a gas gun with these components.
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