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12/20/2007 12:21:32 AM EDT
[#1]

Originally Posted By jagibson81:
Wow that was fast. Would the 4-way have to be threaded to work?


no, but those connectors are hard to get either way.  you can either use a CT-91 cable assy or scour ebay for the cheap adapter cable.  worst case, just get a cheap "HT cloning cable" from ebay, and snip it in half to make a DIY adapter.  

www.gigaparts.com/store.php?action=profile&sku=ZYS-CT-91

losdos.dyndns.org:8080/public/ham/yaesu-vx6r/connector/

ar-jedi
"Due to the special procedures performed by the Enigma machine, the solvability is so far removed from practical possibility that the cipher system of the machine must be regarded as virtually incapable of solution." -- German cryptographer, 1937
12/20/2007 12:31:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks. You have been most helpful.
12/20/2007 1:21:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: caverspencer][Edited] [#3]
cable are about $25 with shipping from ebay.
Here is one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=320187884555&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI

and here is the one I bought which has worked fine on everything I used it on (2 of the HX370s and a YasueVX7r.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320192284545&_trksid=p3984.cWAT.m240.lVI

thanks for helping me with this, and the software to.  Its very appreciated!
12/20/2007 4:28:44 AM EDT
[#4]
I emailed Standard Horizon about the scrambler card that goes with those HX370S radios, and they emailed me back; it is a frequency inversion scheme (the donald-duck-sounding crypto).

It's easily breakable with a kit from Ramsey electronics, but the odds of somebody listening to your transmission and actually having one of those kits is low... only the most hard-core of scanner junkies are likely to own one.

So you've got the potential for a modicum of communication privacy with those radios.

Just FYI.
"Look wise, say nothing, and grunt. Speech was given to conceal thought."

- Sir William Osler -
12/30/2007 11:07:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: caverspencer][Edited] [#5]
edit:  nevermind...
that cable I had posted a link to had the wrong connector
1/2/2008 4:44:20 PM EDT
[#6]
height=8
Originally Posted By GlockTiger:
Thanks, Bubba -- the Continuous Wave site is awesome!

Well, after some research I learned several Standard Horizon (essentially Yaesu) radios come with a hefty assortment of accessories compatible with several Yaesu HT's.

I ordered the HX370S (was attracted to the LMR programmability as mentioned above) and lo and behold, it INCLUDES the following Yaesu accessories common to the VX-150/170 and FT-60 to name a few:

FNB-83 Rechargeable Battery Pack
NC-88B 120 VAC Charger
CD-26 Charger Cradle
FBA-25A Dry cell Battery Pack
These things alone cost over $100 if purchased individually.

Optional accessories with Yaesu commonality:
CMP460 Waterproof Mic -- Same for VX-6/7
E-DC-6 -- DC Cable, Plug and wire only -- works for VX-150/170/6/7/FT-60 and probably more.

So basically, by buying an HX270S / HX370S, you can look at it as buying a bunch of HT accessories and getting a free Marine VHF radio ho


Any ideas which  Yaesu   Dual Band  2M/70CM  Ham are capatible with accessorries of the HX370?    Specifically the battery and charger.  
1/2/2008 6:10:04 PM EDT
[#7]

Originally Posted By caverspencer:

Originally Posted By GlockTiger:
Thanks, Bubba -- the Continuous Wave site is awesome!

Well, after some research I learned several Standard Horizon (essentially Yaesu) radios come with a hefty assortment of accessories compatible with several Yaesu HT's.

I ordered the HX370S (was attracted to the LMR programmability as mentioned above) and lo and behold, it INCLUDES the following Yaesu accessories common to the VX-150/170 and FT-60 to name a few:

FNB-83 Rechargeable Battery Pack
NC-88B 120 VAC Charger
CD-26 Charger Cradle
FBA-25A Dry cell Battery Pack
These things alone cost over $100 if purchased individually.

Optional accessories with Yaesu commonality:
CMP460 Waterproof Mic -- Same for VX-6/7
E-DC-6 -- DC Cable, Plug and wire only -- works for VX-150/170/6/7/FT-60 and probably more.

So basically, by buying an HX270S / HX370S, you can look at it as buying a bunch of HT accessories and getting a free Marine VHF radio . Anyone who is looking to accessorize their Yaesu HT, check out these Std Horizon handhelds first -- you may get a better deal just buying a marine radio and getting all those accessories included.


Any ideas which  Yaesu   Dual Band  2M/70CM  Ham are capatible with accessorries of the HX370?    Specifically the battery and charger.  


Ft-60R.
"ain't many troubles that a man caint fix with seven hundred dollars and his thirty ought six." "Grandpa's Lesson" Lindy Cooper Wisdom
1/3/2008 11:19:14 AM EDT
[#8]

Originally Posted By glazer1972:

Originally Posted By caverspencer:

Any ideas which  Yaesu   Dual Band  2M/70CM  Ham are capatible with accessorries of the HX370?    Specifically the battery and charger.  


Ft-60R.



+1  (ok, I know it's not really needed, but it is a neat setup so I had to chime in)  
Once when asked "What do you say to a cup, Grog?", my succinct response was "Feck off, cup!!!".
1/3/2008 8:44:29 PM EDT
[#9]
Just joined the HX370S family by ordering one tonight.  My thanks to ar-jedi and others for all the help and great information.
hyseas  
1/13/2008 10:03:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Would it be legal to use this radio on Fire Department frequencies? I know you can program LMR frequencies, but does the radio's certfication allow for its use in this manner?I am thinking about volunteering again and the radios they issue leave much to be desired.
1/13/2008 10:22:32 PM EDT
[#11]
Yes, it is fully certified for "part 90" use (land mobile) so it would be 100% legal to use on your fire dept frequencies.  You should check to see if they require MDC1200 encoding (data that shows the individual radio IDs) as it will not do that.  It will do standard CTCSS & DCS tones for repeater and simplex use.  

Feel free to ask, there are quite a few of us who use (or for me, used) these radios.  A few more of us have pretty through knowledge of public safety radio systems as well.  
Once when asked "What do you say to a cup, Grog?", my succinct response was "Feck off, cup!!!".
1/15/2008 7:54:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: glazer1972][Edited] [#12]
What does the HX370S has for an antenna connector?
كافر
1/15/2008 10:16:48 PM EDT
[#13]

Originally Posted By glazer1972:
What does the HX370S has for an antenna connector?


SMA type, same as every modern amateur HT.

ar-jedi

"Due to the special procedures performed by the Enigma machine, the solvability is so far removed from practical possibility that the cipher system of the machine must be regarded as virtually incapable of solution." -- German cryptographer, 1937
1/15/2008 10:48:11 PM EDT
[#14]

Originally Posted By ar-jedi:

Originally Posted By glazer1972:
What does the HX370S has for an antenna connector?


SMA type, same as every most modern amateur HTs.

ar-jedi




Updated  

Plus the motosnobs would call what the ham HTs use a reverse SMA, but that's splitting hairs  
Once when asked "What do you say to a cup, Grog?", my succinct response was "Feck off, cup!!!".
1/15/2008 10:57:21 PM EDT
[#15]

Originally Posted By Grog:
Plus the motosnobs would call what the ham HTs use a reverse SMA, but that's splitting hairs  


i work with SMA's daily ('cause i play with 622MHz, 2.5GHz, and 10GHz transmission systems and test equipment).  the connector atop a typical amateur radio is a female SMA -- there is nothing unique about it.  from a mechanical and water ingress standpoint, it's not the optimum choice for an HT application -- but from an RF standpoint the SMA is unparalleled out to 18GHz or so in low power applications.  

ar-jedi
"Due to the special procedures performed by the Enigma machine, the solvability is so far removed from practical possibility that the cipher system of the machine must be regarded as virtually incapable of solution." -- German cryptographer, 1937
1/15/2008 11:42:13 PM EDT
[#16]
Yeah, I knew that.  Just wanted to infuse some obscure humor into the thread, plus I am in the process of ordering five VHF SMA antennas and two SMA to BNC adapters for my /\/\ stuff.  



Is it odd to have four different antennas for one style of HT?  

136-174 wideband whip 8.1"
136-150.8 whip 7.8"
136-150.8 tapered whip 5" (Visar for the /\/\ fans)
150-162 stubby 3.55" (for tucked away use)

Yes, I'm odd  
Once when asked "What do you say to a cup, Grog?", my succinct response was "Feck off, cup!!!".
1/16/2008 8:31:10 AM EDT
[#17]

Originally Posted By ar-jedi:

Originally Posted By glazer1972:
What does the HX370S has for an antenna connector?


SMA type, same as every modern amateur HT.

ar-jedi



Just wanted to make sure since an external antenna is allowed on murs freqs.  Just not sure since this thing list 2.5w for medium instead of the legal 2w on murs.
كافر
1/16/2008 2:51:33 PM EDT
[#18]
By the book, program it for low power, real world, well you do what you need to and be careful who is watching listening
Once when asked "What do you say to a cup, Grog?", my succinct response was "Feck off, cup!!!".
2/28/2008 6:23:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ar-jedi][Edited] [#19]

BUMMER --> HX370S  / Retail Price: $204.53  /  Sale price: $204.53

www.marine-radio-store.com/sthohxvhfham1.html

ar-jedi
"Due to the special procedures performed by the Enigma machine, the solvability is so far removed from practical possibility that the cipher system of the machine must be regarded as virtually incapable of solution." -- German cryptographer, 1937
2/28/2008 6:41:22 PM EDT
[#20]

Originally Posted By ar-jedi:
BUMMER --> HX370S  / Retail Price: $204.53  /  Sale price: $204.53

www.marine-radio-store.com/sthohxvhfham1.html

ar-jedi


Are you sure you're not looking at the "intrinsically safe" model?  That particular model is about double the price.

Check here  for a more reasonable price... or see the Ebay dealers.
"Look wise, say nothing, and grunt. Speech was given to conceal thought."

- Sir William Osler -
2/29/2008 1:13:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ROMAD-556][Edited] [#21]
WOW! I was reading this thread earlier in the week and the price is was about $120...

And to think I passed on Monday


ETA - They are on crack! a quick google search shows that the rest of the world has the radios for around $110 +/- or so no counting delivery charges. Still on the fence about getting a pair of these but it sure does seem like a good deal.
2/29/2008 1:49:37 AM EDT
[#22]

Originally Posted By ar-jedi:
BUMMER --> HX370S  / Retail Price: $204.53  /  Sale price: $204.53

www.marine-radio-store.com/sthohxvhfham1.html

ar-jedi




In case anyone forgets, Motorola is in the process of having controlling interest in all things yaesu/vertex, and any radio that is certified for Part 90 use and sells for $100 might not be around as cheap as this way.

Plus they are charging full retail, wonder why?  Unless so many people bought them from this thread so they think they can get away with it


I'll take a warm midget fart over a cold bear any day


I am pro-furry. If I am skinned, am I not meaty inside? <img src=/images/smilies/icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
3/1/2008 2:53:19 AM EDT
[#23]

Originally Posted By ROMAD-556:
quick google search


true dat:
www.google.com/products?q=HX370S&btnG=Search+Products


ar-jedi

"Due to the special procedures performed by the Enigma machine, the solvability is so far removed from practical possibility that the cipher system of the machine must be regarded as virtually incapable of solution." -- German cryptographer, 1937
3/24/2008 10:26:52 AM EDT
[#24]
I'm new here and thanks to many in this thread for the great info I've also jumped on the HX370 band wagon... looks like a terrific radio.  I've found the compatible VX-7R cable on ebay, but need the software... anyone with a lead to cheap software please fill me in Andrew
3/25/2008 5:55:35 PM EDT
[#25]
Thanks all! Got a copy.

Andrew
4/18/2008 1:25:48 PM EDT
[#26]
Can someone help me out with acquiring the software for the HX370?

[email protected]

Thanks a lot
5/15/2008 4:16:08 PM EDT
[#27]
Anyone with a link for the CE68 software? Thanks (and a bump).
6/1/2008 5:20:29 AM EDT
[#28]
height=8
Originally Posted By Andrew4ce:
I'm new here and thanks to many in this thread for the great info I've also jumped on the HX370 band wagon... looks like a terrific radio.  I've found the compatible VX-7R cable on ebay, but need the software... anyone with a lead to cheap software please fill me in here[email protected]
6/3/2008 4:19:05 PM EDT
[#29]
height=8
Originally Posted By motrac:
height=8
Originally Posted By Andrew4ce:
I'm new here and thanks to many in this thread for the great info I've also jumped on the HX370 band wagon... looks like a terrific radio.  I've found the compatible VX-7R cable on ebay, but need the software... anyone with a lead to cheap software please fill me in here[email protected]


to the 2 members that pointed me in the right direction thank you very much.
6/12/2008 8:10:03 AM EDT
[#30]
OK, got a bunch of friends in the 'hood interested in buying these radios for neighbourhood security but need software.  Where are you boys finding it?  TIA.
6/12/2008 9:54:06 AM EDT
[#31]

Originally Posted By Monkey-man:
OK, got a bunch of friends in the 'hood interested in buying these radios for neighbourhood security but need software.  Where are you boys finding it?  TIA.


Are they hams, or are you going to use MURS freqs?
"Stargate SG-1: It's like MacGyver, with guns!"
6/17/2008 4:07:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Would some one send me information on the software for the HX370S?
Also any information/link to the needed cable would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Luckdog
6/18/2008 7:10:21 PM EDT
[#33]

a friend is looking for a ready made programming cable for this radio.
has anyone bought such a cable off Ebay or similar?
brand/model #/etc appreciated.

thanks
ar-jedi
--------------------------------------------------
Three things are certain
Death, taxes and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.
6/19/2008 1:12:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GlockTiger][Edited] [#34]

Originally Posted By GlockTiger:
snip...
Grog, I just used a VX-6 cable that came with the ADMS programming package. A friend bought that for me a while back and it works for every HT I own -- VX-6, VX-2, VX-170, and HX370. Now we just need Jim Mitchell to write the free commander software for the VX-170 (currently you have to buy the ADMS package for it -- no  freebies to my knowledge).


Seems to work fine. I think it's the CT-29A according to Gigaparts.
6/23/2008 8:13:40 PM EDT
[#35]
The HX370S has certainly turned out to be ideal for me. I spend a lot of time down near the Chesapeake Bay, and being able to monitor boat traffic, the weather, and the local repeaters in the adjoining counties all in one unit is a perfect combination.  All of this in a very affordable package with a lot of goodies included.

Hats off to Glock Tiger for his patient programming help with the radio, assisting a household where the last PC has given up the ghost and the programing software wasn't an available option.  Thanks, GT!






Never ask a man if he is from Virginia. If he is, he'll tell you. If he isn't, you don't want to embarass him.
7/10/2008 4:28:16 AM EDT
[#36]
This appears to be the radio of my dreams. Loaded with capability. Good quality. Relatively small. Capable of being run on AA batteries. Plenty of channel options. Durable and water resistant. And all things considered, they aren't very expensive either! I have a Kenwood portable I use on the local FD. It doesn't appear to be any better than this radio at all, yet it costs considerably more and doesn't have the AA battery holder or half those accessories.

I think I'll be buying some of these for MURS use for SHTF type situations, as well as for hunting, hiking and car to car commo when convoying during trips.  
"You can reach and touch your pecker any time you want. Make sure you can reach your rifle any time you want. Your rifle can save your dick. Your dick can't save shit!"
8/3/2008 2:12:17 PM EDT
[#37]
BTT w/ question!

I'm thinking about buying one of these, and I was hoping someone would point me in the right direction for the lowest price for the radio and programming accessories.

Thanks!
"Stargate SG-1: It's like MacGyver, with guns!"
8/3/2008 3:02:33 PM EDT
[#38]

Originally Posted By Tony-Ri:
I'm thinking about buying one of these, and I was hoping someone would point me in the right direction for the lowest price for the radio and programming accessories.


(1)
radio purchase info is one page back,
e.g.
www.marine-electronics-unlimited.com/Standard+Horizon+HX370.html
and more generally
www.google.com/products?q=HX370S&btnG=Search+Products
(note: you *probably* don't need the more expensive Intrinsically Safe model [HX370SAS] as this model is specifically designed and individually tested to ensure that operation does not ignite nearby flammable vapors)

(2)
you'll also need to get a programming cable off of Ebay; any Yaesu VX6R/VX170 compatible cable should work.  there are two types, one with the older RS232 serial port connector (DB9 type) and the other with a newer USB connector.  i suggest that you get the latter type as the RS232 port is becoming less and less common on newer computers (especially on laptops).  

here is an EXAMPLE USB cable:
cgi.ebay.com/USB-Programming-Cable-for-Yaesu-VX-6R-VX-7R-VX-170-VX6R_W0QQitemZ220259583364QQihZ012QQ
note: i HAVE NOT used the above USB programming cable OR vendor; i link it merely as an example of what you should be looking for and the approximate cost.

also note that some programming cables are generic in the sense that they don't have the *exact* connector needed for interfacing with the radio.  this provides the vendor some flexibility since they are not making and stocking radio-specific cables.  however, for you, the end user, a short adapter cable is needed to complete things.

by way of an EXAMPLE,
cgi.ebay.com/USB-Programming-Cable-for-Yaesu-VX-7R-VX-6R-VX-6E_W0QQitemZ360076336620QQihZ023QQ
in the case above, the advertised cable does not directly interface to a VX6R etc -- one needs to get another cable, specifically Yaesu's CT-91.  this info is noted in the auction text.

the connector needed for the HX370S is a threaded, 4 conductor type, same as on the VX170, VX6R, and VX7R.  
you can see a closeup in this example auction:
cgi.ebay.com/USB-program-cable-for-Yaesu-VX-6R-VX-6E-VX-7R-VX-7E-048_W0QQitemZ220264481835QQihZ012QQ



finally,
the author of the popular FTBxxxx series of Yaesu programming software recommends,
on this page,
www.g4hfq.co.uk/links.html
the following cable from Ebay vendor KAWAMALL:
cgi.ebay.com/USB-Programming-cable-for-Yaesu-Vertex-VX-7R-VX-170-NEW_W0QQitemZ380051955508QQihZ025QQ
again, i have no experience with this cable -- but the UK-based author of the Yaesu FTBxxxx series of programming SW definitely knows what he is doing.

hope all that helps.

ar-jedi
--------------------------------------------------
Three things are certain
Death, taxes and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.
10/16/2008 1:22:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: monkeyman][Edited] [#39]
So......those of you who picked up these HX370s  and have had them for  a while now, how do you like them/how well do they work?  Any surprizes, new info on them?
10/16/2008 3:41:22 PM EDT
[#40]
No surprises, no problems, no new info.  Perfect for my (rather limited) uses.


Never ask a man if he is from Virginia. If he is, he'll tell you. If he isn't, you don't want to embarass him.
10/28/2008 12:10:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Very interesting radio.  Can any of y'all point me in the direction of the appropriate programming software for this unit ?  Thanks!
11/2/2008 4:48:43 AM EDT
[#42]
Any one willing to point me in the direction of said software...?

11/8/2008 8:22:19 PM EDT
[#43]
I also would like to know where to get the software from. Thanks!
11/9/2008 12:48:26 AM EDT
[#44]
OK Gang:  I've been trying to follow this thread as best as I can - And so far this radio sounds like what i'm looking for.

I mainly am looking for a radio that will do double duty for my freelance photography business and as a SHTF emergancy radio.

I do quite a bit of photography at race car events, and want a radio that will allow me to transmit to my group (so I believer MURS would be perfect - most of the transmitting would be with-in 1-2 miles of each other) and to also listen into the scanner channels of the various race teams.

Most of those frequencies are in the following range bands

154.490 - 172.612
461.825 - 464.525

Can anyone confirm that I will be able to use this radio for those specified tasks

Assuming this can be done - then all I need in additiona to the radios would be software and programming cables.

Thanks
Peter
11/9/2008 3:33:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ar-jedi][Edited] [#45]
Originally Posted By Sir_Peter:
154.490 - 172.612  YES
461.825 - 464.525  NO (the HX370 is a VHF-band-only radio)


ar-jedi
Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
11/9/2008 4:25:53 PM EDT
[#46]
Thanks ar-jedi

Do you know if there are any programable radios that would allow me to do what I want with out at this point in time getting a license

Thanks
Peter
12/30/2008 2:37:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kilroy155][Edited] [#47]
I think I'm about to pull the trigger and purchase one of these (HX370S).
I also plan to get a programming cable - can someone point me to where I can get the programming software?

Also, is there a recommendation for a replacement antenna that can be purchased to improve the performance on the MURS frequencies?

Thx
1/24/2009 5:06:27 PM EDT
[#48]
I took the plunge today and bought a 370 Very cool little radio! Can someone please send me a link to the programing software?

Thanks
1/27/2009 10:16:30 AM EDT
[#49]
Gentlemen,

I must share an outstanding find with you.  

As some of you probably know, the HX-370S has the capability to do encryption (it's actually a frequency inversion scrambling technique, NOT the more-secure digital motorola DES stuff).  The module is about the size of your thumbnail, and goes in a little pocket underneath the battery.  

Unfortunately, the encryption module (FVP-31) for those radios runs roughly $90 and up PER RADIO.  Cheapest I ever found them in the US is here, at $87 dollars.  This place want $112 each.  This place wants $99 dollars each.

I needed five of them, and wasn't about to drop $500 bucks (plus shipping) on such a tiny little handful of parts.  I went through page after page of google hits...

Then I found this place, across the pond in jolly old England.  About halfway down this page you'll see it... FVP-31 for $43 bucks (without VAT).  Shipping from overseas is about another 20-30 dollars, and it takes about ten days or so to get here.

That's half price compared to what it goes for here... and here it is, about to go into one of my HX-370's.



It's not the most secure encryption in the world... forget keeping your comms secure from the government or LE, and it can be defeated with a kit from Ramsey electronics, but only your most hard-core scanner jockeys are likely to own one of those.

It's definitely better than nothing... and at that price, it's feasible to put in, as opposed to spending the price of an entire second radio.

Enjoy!
"Look wise, say nothing, and grunt. Speech was given to conceal thought."

- Sir William Osler -
1/27/2009 5:04:16 PM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By TheGrayMan:
Gentlemen,

I must share an outstanding find with you.  

As some of you probably know, the HX-370S has the capability to do encryption (it's actually a frequency inversion scrambling technique, NOT the more-secure digital motorola DES stuff).  The module is about the size of your thumbnail, and goes in a little pocket underneath the battery.  

Unfortunately, the encryption module (FVP-31) for those radios runs roughly $90 and up PER RADIO.  Cheapest I ever found them in the US is here, at $87 dollars.  This place want $112 each.  This place wants $99 dollars each.

I needed five of them, and wasn't about to drop $500 bucks (plus shipping) on such a tiny little handful of parts.  I went through page after page of google hits...

Then I found this place, across the pond in jolly old England.  About halfway down this page you'll see it... FVP-31 for $43 bucks (without VAT).  Shipping from overseas is about another 20-30 dollars, and it takes about ten days or so to get here.

That's half price compared to what it goes for here... and here it is, about to go into one of my HX-370's.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg286/TGrayman/0126091610.jpg

It's not the most secure encryption in the world... forget keeping your comms secure from the government or LE, and it can be defeated with a kit from Ramsey electronics, but only your most hard-core scanner jockeys are likely to own one of those.

It's definitely better than nothing... and at that price, it's feasible to put in, as opposed to spending the price of an entire second radio.

Enjoy!


Thanks for the heads-up!
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