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9/12/2009 4:16:02 PM EDT
With all this talk of getting your sensitive personal stuff on files, having field manual,s and medical manuals on secure USB's I realized I need to get a jump on it.

Anyone try this as an alternative to an Ironkey?
9/12/2009 4:46:10 PM EDT
[#1]
I just one of the umpty zillion I've picked up from tradeshows, gifts, etc.
9/12/2009 5:12:04 PM EDT
[#2]
$90 for a flash drive.  

9/12/2009 5:21:09 PM EDT
[#3]
just get a regular usb drive and create a truecrypt partition.
9/12/2009 6:56:42 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
just get a regular usb drive (edit: actually, 3 of them) and create a truecrypt partition container.


this.  is.  the.  solution.  

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=18&t=619648

ar-jedi


here is my encrypted directory structure:

auto/
- pics of my truck and wifes car.
- scan of vehicle registrations for above.
- scan of vehicle insurance for above.
- pdf repair manual for my truck.

bins/
- binaries of applications, e.g. Acrobat, Truecrypt, EchoLink, Firefox Portable, PortaPutty, etc

financial/
- prior year tax return
- scan of bank account statement.
- scan of employer paystub.
- scan of employer 401K account.
- scan of Fidelity brokerage account statement.
- scan of one each credit card statements.

firearms/
- scan of any transaction records proving i'm the lawful owner.
- pics of weapons for insurance purposes.
- name, address, & number of a couple of FFL's.
- PDF versions of teardown/cleaning manuals.

gps/
- PDF manuals for my Etrex and Magellan RM800.
- latest application to download new firmware to gps's in case of corruption.

ham/
- scan of amateur radio license.
- scan of RACES/ARES cards.
- pics of rigs for insurance purposes.
- field expedient antenna construction articles.
- PDF user manuals for VX170, IC24AT, IC703+, V8000, FT8800, etc
- FRS/GMRS/MURS frequencies.
- various frequency reference guides for local police/fire/govt.

house/
- scan of deed.
- scans of mortgage paperwork.
- scans of any township docs (tax assessment, etc).

insurance/
- scan of homeowner's insurance policy.
- pictures of items which have non-trivial replacement costs (e.g., wife's engagement ring).
- scans of appraisals for any items which have non-trivial replacement costs.
- scan of life insurance policy
- scan of will

maps/
- East coast, state, and county maps in PDF format.
- above, annotated with PDF postnotes regarding "places of interest".

medical/
- PDF of FM4-25.11, basic military first aid.
- PDF for proper application of a tourniquet in the field.
- various other first aid reference manuals.

numbers/
- scan of household address book, includes all family/friends/etc.
- PDF of number directory at work.
- text file with contents of cellphone memory.

passports/
- scans of my and my wife's passports.

pics/
- family pictures.
- parents / siblings pictures.

shtf/
- SHTF planning documents
- PDF survival guides, desert/blizzard/shelter building/etc
- 14 part PDF survival document from WHO
> 1 - Cleaning and disinfecting wells.pdf
> 2 - Cleaning and disinfecting boreholes.pdf
> 3 - Cleaning and disinfecting water storage tanks.pdf
> 4 - Rehabilitating small-scale water distributions systems.pdf
> 5 - Emergency treatment of drinking water.pdf
> 6 - Rehabilitating water treatment works.pdf
> 7 - Solid waste management in emergencies.pdf
> 8 - Disposal of dead bodies.pdf
> 9 - Minimum water quantity.pdf
> 10 - Essential hygiene messages.pdf
> 11 - How to measure chlorine residual.pdf
> 12 - Delivering safe water.pdf
> 13 - Emergency sanitation - planning.pdf
> 14 - Emergency sanitation - technical.pdf

wallet/
- scans (front and back) of everything in my wallet, incl credit cards, DL, NJ FID, social security card, employer ID, healthcare cards, etc. note that it's important to scan the back as there is always useful info there –– for example, generally the "report lost/stolen card" contact number for your credit card company is on the back.

––––––

anyway, that's what i have on my 1GB USB key. my Truecrypt file is 400MB big, and i keep a copy of that same file on my home PC, my wife's laptop, my work computer, and obviously on my USB key on my person. once a year i snail-mail a burned CD to my parents out in PA, and tell them to put it in with their important papers.

forgot to say that you should dupe everything for your wife/SO/GF



Quoted:
Secure it with
http://www.truecrypt.org/
-Foxxz



+ 1,048,576.

the HUGE ADVANTAGE with using TrueCrypt over a "hardware encrypted USB drive" is that you can store, copy, transmit, duplicate, etc etc your TrueCrypt vault (= a file) as many times as you want, in as many places as you want, on as many types of media as you want.

in other words, you fell into the water, your USB key is ruined?

no problem, your TrueCrypt vault is also on your PC's hard drive at home, on your PC at work, on another USB flash drive in your BOB, on another USB flash drive in your BOV center console, on a CD at your parents house in a drawer, on a CD in a safe deposit box in a bank, on a networked server fileshare on the other side of the world, etc etc etc.

2 is 1, 1 is none.
having one HW-encrypted store of your stuff is a single point of failure.

ETA, from a prior post

Quoted:
FYI is there any advantage to the thumb drive over a couple of CD's?

the USB drive is easily updatable as new info is found/old info is changed. the USB key is easier to hang around your neck, or stuff in your BOB/pack. but keep reading...

Quoted:
Can you set a password for the thumb drive?

don't encrypt the entire USB key. instead, see my link above for TrueCrypt software (open source, free, very good). use it to make an encrypted container, and that's where your docs will go into.

ETA:
the main reason you don't want to encrypt the entire key is that in order to decrypt the key on some random computer you found, you would first need to install the decryption software. which you would get from where? so there is a chicken-vs-egg problem.

hence, make a container within the USB key; encrypt that. OUTSIDE THE CONTAINER, place the truecrypt installer application AND use the "Make Traveller" function from within truecrypt. the latter will add all the necessary bits to the USB key to unencrypt the container without having to actully install truecrypt on the PC. and, having the actual installer application is just backup.

don't make the container larger than about 600-650MB. why not? keep reading...

Quoted:
Is it EMP proof?

no one knows. so, in true ARFCOM fashion, "get both". make a CD copy once every 6 months or so, and perhaps keep a second USB key in an RF proof box somewhere with the rest of your electronic SHTF stuff. nevertheless, if there is an EMP strong enough to take out your USB key, it probably means you have huge problems forthcoming!

as noted way way way above, i periodically make a copy of my USB key onto a CD, and send it off to my parents in another state (aka cheap offsite storage). this is why you should not make the encrypted container larger than 600-650MB –– otherwise it will not fit onto a CD.
9/13/2009 2:23:21 PM EDT
[#5]




Quoted:

$90 for a flash drive.




its tactical
9/13/2009 2:41:20 PM EDT
[#6]
Taken from their website:

-Pre-Loaded with Encrypted Medical Data Software for User to Complete if Desired. Easily Removed if Wished.
-8GB rugged USB Flash drive.
-Saltwater at Depth: Ocean immersion for 60 minutes at a depth of 100 feet.
-Extreme Temperatures: Immediate transition from -109.3 F to 270 F
-Shock & Impact: Free-fall drop test from 10 feet in repetition, 26 impacts.
-Personalize your TAC Drive to function as a medical information jewelry and a portable and personal health records system.
-Push button slider for easy retraction of USB device.
-TAD Gear T-Skull Logo laser etched on matte Stealth Green surface.
-Dims: 1.14" x 1.95" x 0.27".
-Made in the USA.

These are about the only features I care about, making it a little more ideal. More than likely a USB drive stuffed inside a pelican case will be my choice, just wanting to get opinions.
9/13/2009 3:03:50 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Taken from their website:

-Pre-Loaded with Encrypted Medical Data Software for User to Complete if Desired. Easily Removed if Wished.
-8GB rugged USB Flash drive.
-Saltwater at Depth: Ocean immersion for 60 minutes at a depth of 100 feet.
-Extreme Temperatures: Immediate transition from -109.3 F to 270 F
-Shock & Impact: Free-fall drop test from 10 feet in repetition, 26 impacts.
-Personalize your TAC Drive to function as a medical information jewelry and a portable and personal health records system.
-Push button slider for easy retraction of USB device.
-TAD Gear T-Skull Logo laser etched on matte Stealth Green surface.
-Dims: 1.14" x 1.95" x 0.27".
-Made in the USA.

These are about the only features I care about, making it a little more ideal. More than likely a USB drive stuffed inside a pelican case will be my choice, just wanting to get opinions.



aloksak bag and a regular flash drive and you will have the same thing, flash drives are very tough
9/13/2009 3:05:31 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Extreme Temperatures: Immediate transition from -109.3 F to 270 F

that right there is 100% marketing BS, suitable for a glossy brochure but only useful for puppy bedding.

ar-jedi

9/13/2009 3:07:10 PM EDT
[#9]
heres the manufacturer of the drive in question, they do have other sizes available in easier to swallow prices (i still aint buying one)

http://www.tacdrive.com/main

9/13/2009 3:08:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Extreme Temperatures: Immediate transition from -109.3 F to 270 F

that right there is 100% marketing BS, suitable for a glossy brochure but only useful for puppy bedding.

ar-jedi





another classic...

10/30/2009 5:33:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Taken from their website:

-Pre-Loaded with Encrypted Medical Data Software for User to Complete if Desired. Easily Removed if Wished.
-8GB rugged USB Flash drive.
-Saltwater at Depth: Ocean immersion for 60 minutes at a depth of 100 feet.
-Extreme Temperatures: Immediate transition from -109.3 F to 270 F
-Shock & Impact: Free-fall drop test from 10 feet in repetition, 26 impacts.
-Personalize your TAC Drive to function as a medical information jewelry and a portable and personal health records system.
-Push button slider for easy retraction of USB device.
-TAD Gear T-Skull Logo laser etched on matte Stealth Green surface.
-Dims: 1.14" x 1.95" x 0.27".
-Made in the USA.

These are about the only features I care about, making it a little more ideal. More than likely a USB drive stuffed inside a pelican case will be my choice, just wanting to get opinions.


taken from whos website???
10/31/2009 6:41:39 AM EDT
[#12]
My sandisk has been through the wash about a dozen times, no issues. It also went to Iraq with me and I dropped it outside our shelter in the dirt, where it stayed for 2 days before I found it.


They don't have moving parts, they are really hard to kill. The really cool waterproof ones seem like just a waste of money.
10/31/2009 7:40:48 AM EDT
[#13]
tag
12/19/2009 8:01:40 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Is it EMP proof?

no one knows. so, in true ARFCOM fashion, "get both". make a CD copy once every 6 months or so, and perhaps keep a second USB key in an RF proof box somewhere with the rest of your electronic SHTF stuff. nevertheless, if there is an EMP strong enough to take out your USB key, it probably means you have huge problems forthcoming!

as noted way way way above, i periodically make a copy of my USB key onto a CD, and send it off to my parents in another state (aka cheap offsite storage). this is why you should not make the encrypted container larger than 600-650MB –– otherwise it will not fit onto a CD.


Sorry to revive a somewhat dead thread, but is there any reason, other than cost, one could not use a DVD-R instead of a CD, simply for the amount of space available?

Zach
12/19/2009 10:23:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Regular USB Flash Drive (2GB or Higher) + TruCrypt = Done Deal.
12/19/2009 11:30:15 PM EDT
[#16]
I have been stress testing a Corsair mini flash drive for about a year now.  I have frozen it in a cup of water , washed it gobs of times, dropped it, ran over it, thrown it and even launched it out of a potato gun and it still works.



It's not even the "tough one", just their regular line...  So, yes, Flash drives are durable.

And a big +1 for truecrypt...
12/20/2009 2:55:35 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
this is why you should not make the encrypted container larger than 600-650MB –– otherwise it will not fit onto a CD.

Sorry to revive a somewhat dead thread, but is there any reason, other than cost, one could not use a DVD-R instead of a CD, simply for the amount of space available?  Zach

nope, no problem.  ANY recordable media that you can write a standard file to can be used.  the ONLY limitation that i can think of is that some versions of some operating systems have a filesystem maximum file size limit of either 2GB or 4GB.  in other words, any single file can not exceed these limits even though the capacity of a DVD-R is greater.   hence, in this case, this would as big as you could make the TrueCrypt container.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems#Limits

ar-jedi


12/20/2009 5:51:22 AM EDT
[#18]
The last time I went to best buy I got 3 2GB drives for $15.

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