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11/13/2017 11:13:12 PM EDT
[#1]
Any updates on what RRA has done/is dong to repair their reputation?

It's a shame what they did, because I really enjoyed their products, but it's hard to love them now. I want to keep an all IL build for my next AR but it seems harder to do now.
11/13/2017 11:18:56 PM EDT
[#2]
To me it seems as though they don't really think they did anything wrong and will soldier on in the same direction. I'll never buy from them.
11/14/2017 1:22:31 AM EDT
[#3]
They're ignoring the fuck out of the situation and hoping people forget what sell out cock suckers they are. I won't forgive or forget in my lifetime.
Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem. -Ronald Reagan-

Religion was born when the first con man met the first fool." --Mark Twain.
11/14/2017 11:03:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
They're ignoring the fuck out of the situation and hoping people forget what sell out cock suckers they are. I won't forgive or forget in my lifetime.
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I plan on letting anyone possible know for as long as I am able. Troy, RRA, and Springfield are dead in my book.
11/14/2017 11:14:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
They're ignoring the fuck out of the situation and hoping people forget what sell out cock suckers they are. I won't forgive or forget in my lifetime.
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Unfortunately that works.    They'll catch some flak for while, but then the next new/cool thing will come out and people will have to have it.   People have short memories.
You must play the game. You can't win. You can't break even. You can't quit the game.

Never work on hides that are still attached to the animal.
Especially if it's alive. Just trust me on this. That is all. -- Torgrul
12/11/2017 9:16:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Bump and FRRA
1/6/2018 7:13:00 PM EDT
[#7]
2018 Bump
A socialist may indeed be academically superior.
And yet, they are most certainly emotionally retarded.

Minion of Snow #006

Public education is the opiate of the masses.

1/11/2018 11:04:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By STRIKE504:
Bump and FRRA
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As an Illinois resident; FRRA and FSA.
1/12/2018 1:48:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By keeperofthedew:

As an Illinois resident; FRRA and FSA.
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+1
Religion was born when the first con man met the first fool." --Mark Twain.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. --JFK
1/14/2018 1:55:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
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Originally Posted By keeperofthedew:

As an Illinois resident; FRRA and FSA.
+1
This can't be overstated, in spite of what another poster was saying in last week's GD thread on the topic.
1/14/2018 2:01:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By killingmachine123:

This can't be overstated, in spite of what another poster was saying in last week's GD thread on the topic.
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that guy pissed me off. You may have noticed
Religion was born when the first con man met the first fool." --Mark Twain.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. --JFK
1/14/2018 10:11:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ludder093:
that guy pissed me off. You may have noticed
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Originally Posted By killingmachine123:

This can't be overstated, in spite of what another poster was saying in last week's GD thread on the topic.
that guy pissed me off. You may have noticed
I can only imagine he just liked trolling, or works/worked there.
1/23/2018 10:11:34 AM EDT
[#13]
Seeing as I am interested in purchasing an upper from Rock River Arms, I decided to look into the accusations that this thread is all about.

It seems to me that neither Springfield Armory nor Rock River Arms have cut a deal with the Illinois government.  In fact, they both have issued statements that point out that they are opposed to the Gun Dealer Licensing Act.  A lobbyist group that they both give heavy donations to, Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association, cut the deal with the Illinois government, thinking that the deal was in the best interest of its members.  The following link explains this better than I can, and sites the statements from RRA and Springfield Armory presidents.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/05/01/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-oppose-gun-dealer-licensing-act/

After reading this article I am relieved to know that RRA is opposed to the Act and I can buy the upper that best meets my specs from a company that fully supports The 2nd Amendment.
1/23/2018 10:39:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BravoTangoGoff:
Seeing as I am interested in purchasing an upper from Rock River Arms, I decided to look into the accusations that this thread is all about.

It seems to me that neither Springfield Armory nor Rock River Arms have cut a deal with the Illinois government.  In fact, they both have issued statements that point out that they are opposed to the Gun Dealer Licensing Act.  A lobbyist group that they both give heavy donations to, Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association, cut the deal with the Illinois government, thinking that the deal was in the best interest of its members.  The following link explains this better than I can, and sites the statements from RRA and Springfield Armory presidents.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/05/01/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-oppose-gun-dealer-licensing-act/

After reading this article I am relieved to know that RRA is opposed to the Act and I can buy the upper that best meets my specs from a company that fully supports The 2nd Amendment.
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Only after they got caught, my friend.  They didn't mind giving money to anti-2A politicians through their lobbyist to carve themselves out an exemption.

Consider spending your money with White Oak Armament.  It's an Illinois company that is run by upright, ethical people... top shelf products.
In questions of politics, always follow the money.
1/23/2018 11:37:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BravoTangoGoff:
Seeing as I am interested in purchasing an upper from Rock River Arms, I decided to look into the accusations that this thread is all about.

It seems to me that neither Springfield Armory nor Rock River Arms have cut a deal with the Illinois government.  In fact, they both have issued statements that point out that they are opposed to the Gun Dealer Licensing Act.  A lobbyist group that they both give heavy donations to, Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association, cut the deal with the Illinois government, thinking that the deal was in the best interest of its members.  The following link explains this better than I can, and sites the statements from RRA and Springfield Armory presidents.

https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2017/05/01/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-oppose-gun-dealer-licensing-act/

After reading this article I am relieved to know that RRA is opposed to the Act and I can buy the upper that best meets my specs from a company that fully supports The 2nd Amendment.
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Their lobbyist  sold out the rest of the gun owners in the state in exchange for an exception for them.   They got caught on it and cried crocodile tears.   I don't believe their bullshit.   They're opposed to it now because they got caught.
You must play the game. You can't win. You can't break even. You can't quit the game.

Never work on hides that are still attached to the animal. Especially if it's alive. Just trust me on this. That is all. -- Torgrul
1/23/2018 11:48:02 AM EDT
[#16]
It is very possible they are backing up now that they were caught.  You would think that after 55 years on this big blue marble, and having been lied to as often as I have that I wouldn't be so naive.

I will check into White Oak Armament.  Hopefully they have what I am looking for, unfortunately, Windham Weaponry doesn't.

Thanks for the responses to my 2 cents worth.
2/16/2018 3:24:44 AM EDT
[#17]
I was looking at RRA for a new upper. Not anymore.
I'll never buy a RRA product.
2/22/2018 10:31:11 PM EDT
[#18]
Bump, Fuck RRA and SA.
Religion was born when the first con man met the first fool." --Mark Twain.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. --JFK
2/23/2018 2:02:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GoatBoy][Edited] [#19]
With everything going on right now, I am going to put this hate train on hold.

Why? Because it's time to unify and not eat our own. Yes, they screwed up royally by hiring a lobbyist with no firearm background to represent them and to give them power to act and make deals. Yes, they screwed up by not being on top of him and his actions, spending, etc. You can't put blind faith in people and expect them to do everything you want, as they have come to understand.

To add a little bit of information: Since this event, RRA and SA have gone their own ways to continue to fight for gun rights. They have been working hard and spending money to undue what their lobbyist created. We can judge them on what already happened and we must also judge them on actions to make things right. This entire year is a risk because of what transpired last year and it will mean an active agenda to combat any anti gun laws. As such I encourage folks to start threads on any legislation that is moved to vote or created around this event.

So that being said, for the time being I am going to lock this thread. I will ensure it is not archived and will be very open to requests to unlock it for further discussion as things calm a bit.
You only live once, but if you live right.. once is enough.
2/23/2018 2:03:04 AM EDT
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