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Originally Posted By UnknownPatriot: @APPARITION  Please… For the ones living vicariously through this thread  Originally Posted By UnknownPatriot: Originally Posted By APPARITION: Picked up my rifle. Great looking rig. @APPARITION Please… For the ones living vicariously through this thread Mine’s all tucked away but it looks just like the picture posted yesterday. |
I thought missed the Build-AR email and was actually kind of glad so I wouldn't be put in the predicament of trying to decide if I should un-ass the 2K  Alas it was in my spam folder.......I really do like the rifle, but it's hard to justify the 2K even with the extra bolts, I don't know I have a few more hour to mull this over LOL
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Originally Posted By JDeere7296: I thought missed the Build-AR email and was actually kind of glad so I wouldn't be put in the predicament of trying to decide if I should un-ass the 2K Alas it was in my spam folder.......I really do like the rifle, but it's hard to justify the 2K even with the extra bolts, I don't know I have a few more hour to mull this over LOLYeah, I was a hard pass when it was first announced. I slowly came around, but I think I could have gone either way on this one. |
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Originally Posted By razARback: Just a guess... $225ea, plus or minus $25. I think we paid $250 for the chrome one in the 6th quarter (May 2017). If you unloaded the extra BCG's and the MBT (assuming all orders are getting those), you could probably get the black & tan rifle down into the $1,500 range. I was on the fence too, but that is probably about where they should be. For comparison, it would cost about $1,300 to build one out one in black: LaRue Billet Lower Combo $200 (each) LaRue Complete AR-15 Match Grade Upper $749 LaRue Tactical MBT-2S Trigger $99 LaRue Tactical RAT Stock $61 LaRue Tactical A-PEG Grip $12 LaRue Receiver Extension w/Castle Nut & Latch Plate $60 Sprinco Buffer Spring $20 Buffer $30 Lower Parts Kit w/o Grip & FCG $25 7-Slot M-LOK Aluminum Rail Section $21 Lancer 10rd Mag $20 That essentially puts a ~$200 premium on the colored receivers and assembly. I think that’s fair. And then there’s the staying on the list.  you forgot to factor in the federal firearms tax which going off the top of my head is ~ 20% so its almost a wash. buying the UU kit the tax is not required. by selling the complete firearm like this, Mark has to pay the tax now. |
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Originally Posted By tacticalmedic450: you forgot to factor in the federal firearms tax which going off the top of my head is ~ 20% so its almost a wash. buying the UU kit the tax is not required. by selling the complete firearm like this, Mark has to pay the tax now. I’m pretty sure it’s more like 10-11%. And make no mistake - like any other tax, we’re paying it. He’s just collecting it. But it is really irrelevant to the build versus buy comparison I outlined above. The excise tax is baked into our buy cost. I wasn’t comparing his margins. |
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Originally Posted By tacticalmedic450: you forgot to factor in the federal firearms tax which going off the top of my head is ~ 20% so its almost a wash. buying the UU kit the tax is not required. by selling the complete firearm like this, Mark has to pay the tax now. I've been wondering...with the exception of one example that one person from texas posted here, the kits are coming to the FFL's as unassembled configurations. Does anyone know if LaRue logged them as receivers and not rifles since they are shipping unassembled/not as complete rifles? It would be good to know if that's the case because I'll configure mine as a pistol before building as a rifle and ask my FFL accurately to log as a receiver. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: I've been wondering...with the exception of one example that one person from texas posted here, the kits are coming to the FFL's as unassembled configurations. Does anyone know if LaRue logged them as receivers and not rifles since they are shipping unassembled/not as complete rifles? It would be good to know if that's the case because I'll configure mine as a pistol before building as a rifle and ask my FFL accurately to log as a receiver. Thanks 
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Originally Posted By razARback: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284972/27978C55-D02E-44ED-937F-552DF503ED04-2284818.jpg Thanks. I'm not on Instagram so I'm limited in what I can view there with occasional drop ins. |
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Originally Posted By razARback: Instagram aside, it has a buttstock and a 16” barrel. I think you would have a really hard time convincing someone that’s not a rifle. We've seen several people indicate the kits show up like this: Attached File Attached File It would be sort of like buying an assembled lower and an assembled upper from PSA that were never assembled into a complete rifle. If it was never assembled as a rifle, you'd be able to remove the buttstock from the lower and mate the lower with a pistol upper and you'd have a pistol that was good to go. Once configured in that manner, you could remove the pistol upper, install the buttstock and install the rifle upper and have a rifle that could be transitioned back to a pistol as you wished. (Remember it has to go receiver>pistol>16"+ rifle to be able to transition back and forth at the end users preference. If it goes receiver>rifle then it has to stay rifle and can't transition to pistol) Now we did have one fella from Texas post this configuration on the same day of the BuildAR email: Attached File I can only assume that he went to LT's shop and picked it up in person and that it may have been the rifle that was originally setup for the photos since it seems to have the same bipod and came with a case that was different from what was shown on the website as what the kit would arrive in. |
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: …If it was never assembled as a rifle, you'd be able to remove the buttstock from the lower and mate the lower with a pistol upper and you'd have a pistol that was good to go. Once configured in that manner, you could remove the pistol upper, install the buttstock and install the rifle upper and have a rifle that could be transitioned back to a pistol as you wished. (Remember it has to go receiver>pistol>16"+ rifle to be able to transition back and forth at the end users preference. If it goes receiver>rifle then it has to stay rifle and can't transition to pistol)… I’m having trouble wrapping my head around why someone would want to do that. I feel like you’re missing an appreciation for what this is. |
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Originally Posted By razARback: I’m having trouble wrapping my head around why someone would want to do that. I feel like you’re missing an appreciation for what this is. I just like to maintain as much flexibility as possible. Who knows, LT could be starting a whole new line of FDE anodized kit, it'd be nice to have the option to swap over to pistol configurations with just a UU kit purchase and not having to pick up an additional matching FDE lower. The UU upper started with us so a color option that's anodized and not another production step like cerakote makes sense if Mark wanted to add something. Looks like the IG photo has 142 rifles racked if all three racks are full. I wonder if there was a contract run and we got the spill over or if it's a new offering in the works or what inspired a limited run. Has Mark shared that anywhere yet? |
 Here is to hoping that the reason he sends two extra bolts and a extra mbt is to get ready to build some more. Mark if you are listening a 12" pistol upper would be a nice addition to the stable....i actually thought you talked about having a pallet of returned agency guns you might offer up if the list dropped in size....well im guessing the list dropped some today. |
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: I just like to maintain as much flexibility as possible. Who knows, LT could be starting a whole new line of FDE anodized kit, it'd be nice to have the option to swap over to pistol configurations with just a UU kit purchase and not having to pick up an additional matching FDE lower. The UU upper started with us so a color option that's anodized and not another production step like cerakote makes sense if Mark wanted to add something. Looks like the IG photo has 142 rifles racked if all three racks are full. I wonder if there was a contract run and we got the spill over or if it's a new offering in the works or what inspired a limited run. Has Mark shared that anywhere yet? Well they’re clearly rifles, so you won’t have to worry about which way the wind is blowing on pistol braces with this one. |
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Another nice touch I noticed. The RAT Stock also includes the RAT Rods with it. I think that’s a $25 add-on option if you’re buying the stock. |
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I'm officially on the outside, looking in. I couldn't justified to spend $2k on a riffle when I can put that towards steel targets, ammo and/or gear. But, I will continue to look in here tho. Hopefully the next cool thing, there will be someone who doesn't want it, but wants to stay on the list. Maybe I can buy it off someone Anybody wants to sale a BCG? lol |
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Originally Posted By RuizDC5: I'm officially on the outside, looking in. I couldn't justified to spend $2k on a riffle when I can put that towards steel targets, ammo and/or gear. But, I will continue to look in here tho. Hopefully the next cool thing, there will be someone who doesn't want it, but wants to stay on the list. Maybe I can buy it off someone Anybody wants to sale a BCG? lol There's BCGs on the EE or was. |
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Originally Posted By icecold1: anyone know how they ship? i see there is no tracking number available for these anymore? is it two day as i see they are now tacking on a larger rifle fee than i remember paying before. Mine shipped Monday and I picked it up Thursday in Burnsville. |
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Originally Posted By APPARITION: Mine shipped Monday and I picked it up Thursday in Burnsville. Mine shipped Thursday with no tracking number, waiting on it to show up at the FFL. |
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Originally Posted By icecold1: anyone know how they ship? i see there is no tracking number available for these anymore? is it two day as i see they are now tacking on a larger rifle fee than i remember paying before. Mine shipped Tuesday, I picked it up Friday in central MI. |
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Originally Posted By Defender3: Mine shipped Thursday with no tracking number, Waiting on it to show up at the FFL. Originally Posted By Defender3: Originally Posted By APPARITION: Mine shipped Monday and I picked it up Thursday in Burnsville. Mine shipped Thursday with no tracking number, Waiting on it to show up at the FFL. Yea, we don't get those anymore.  I forgot to ask my FFL if they sent it to him. |
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Originally Posted By razARback: I surveyed my stash and I'm good on LT BCGs, so I'm unloading the BuildAR BCGs on the EE. Same with the MBT. The proceeds will go to my Black & Tan Optic Fund (BTOF). I wish I could splurge, it’s tempting! I’ll probably just order a MGU for an extra $500 
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Originally Posted By Defender3: I just picked mine up. Thought it strange there was no test target. Those that received theirs, did you get a test fired target? Nope. |
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski: On Instagram he said that these rifles aren’t test grouped for accuracy as it was not priced in. anyone have a cheap go to round that shoots good in 5.56? or a handload they want to share? i have some progressive presses but ill admidt im not a one at a time sort of guy...LOL ill admist im stocked deep in surplus plinking ammo but not a lot of quality 5.56 as their cost mad me just want to shoot more powerful ammo. |
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Originally Posted By icecold1: anyone have a cheap go to round that shoots good in 5.56? or a handload they want to share? i have some progressive presses but ill admidt im not a one at a time sort of guy...LOL ill admist im stocked deep in surplus plinking ammo but not a lot of quality 5.56 as their cost mad me just want to shoot more powerful ammo. I’ve had good luck with H335 and 55 grain ballistic tips or the like in most good 223 barrels, including my 556 tOBR. 69 grain SMK’s with Varget, I don’t remember how much. I’m wanting to try the 73 grain Berger’s when I can find some. I just picked up my Black and Tan today, so it’ll be a day or two before I shoot it, but it sure is purty.  Obviously enter into those hand loads with caution. |
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Originally Posted By AR10Brian: I’ve had good luck with H335 and 55 grain ballistic tips or the like in most good 223 barrels, including my 556 tOBR. 69 grain SMK’s with Varget, I don’t remember how much. I’m wanting to try the 73 grain Berger’s when I can find some. I just picked up my Black and Tan today, so it’ll be a day or two before I shoot it, but it sure is purty. Obviously enter into those hand loads with caution. thanks ill see what i have around to load 5.56, im set up with a dillon 650 and all the parts but typically only load 45acp,10mm and 9mm surplus 223 has always been so cheap before i did not think it was worth my time for plinking. guess ill round up some of my brass and get to work. just what i need to start loading rifle rounds...lol |
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Originally Posted By icecold1: thanks ill see what i have around to load 5.56, im set up with a dillon 650 and all the parts but typically only load 45acp,10mm and 9mm surplus 223 has always been so cheap before i did not think it was worth my time for plinking. guess ill round up some of my brass and get to work. just what i need to start loading rifle rounds...lol Yeah, I need to eventually get set up to load for handgun, but that spare time seems like a rare and precious commodity these days. |
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| if anyone knows of a bulk supplier of accurate .223 bullets that are more reasonable im looking for 10-20k as why not jump in with both feet..lol im not looking for super premium but would like them to group in a golfball at 100 yards, is there a bulk bullet that fits the bill? |
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Almost any hand loads will shoot better groups. My mixed brass blasting loads for competition still shoots 1.5” versus 2.25 with federal bulk. Golf balls are bigger than MOA at 100 so literally anything except pull downs lighter than 77gr should fit the bill. Look for Hornady in bulk and you’ll be good to go. Attached File All of these sport some version of black and tan. |
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how is everyone's color match from the upper to the handguard, my upper is almost gold and the handguard and lower closer to tan...im kinda surprised in a 2k rifle and with larues attention to detail that the color is this different. so how is everyone else's match or am i expecting too much at this price point? |
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Originally Posted By Defender3: Hoping for a range trip tomorrow. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/52736/IMG_1541-2294230.jpg Picking up the glass for mine tomorrow. 
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Originally Posted By icecold1: how is everyone's color match from the upper to the handguard, my upper is almost gold and the handguard and lower closer to tan...im kinda surprised in a 2k rifle and with larues attention to detail that the color is this different. so how is everyone else's match or am i expecting too much at this price point? In average light it's a darn near exact match. Under bright halogen lights from my stove hood and under cabinet lighting I can see a slight difference in the upper being a touch lighter than the handguard and lower. Since these are anodized and not a spray finish some variation will be present. Compared to other manufacturers offering anodized rifles [Big G and a few others] this is as close to a perfect match as I've ever seen by far and it's a match that is better than I'd expect for the price point. |