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Count me in big time ,I have been looking at 308's for awhile and the Colt would be my first pic for sure.
The LMT 308 is the front runner right now but it's 3 grand ,if Colt can offer one for around 1500 to 2000 dollars I'm in . I have been and always will be a Colt koolaid drinker. |
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Is Colt going to offer a lightweight .308 barrel or they all h-bars?
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I would bet they have not settled on which version exactly will be the civilian model.
I seen a pic of a "SP6720" its a 20 inch barrel version of the 24 inch CR6724. that is awesome! I have always wanted that model a bit shorter. fingers crossed it will have a 1/7 twist |
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How many soldiers or marines out there are going to carry a spare upper, two different types of ammunition and magazines in their back pack???? You have a 7.62 rifle or a 5.56 rifle. You are only going to carry one in the field. If you have this as a 5.56mm it is an heavy bulky 5.56 compared to the standard M4. He forgot to tell you that you also have to switch your buffer as well so another part to carry in the field. So look at this as a basic 7.62 mm rifle. How does it differ from the proven ArmaLite family of AR-10 weapons and the already proven LMT LM308MWS rifle? All offer free floating barrels and ambi controls. LMT offers quick change barrels which beats the hell out of carrying a spare complete upper for a shorter length CQB version. Cost will be very interesting. All these manufacturers make selective fire versions of their rifles. Colt once again late in the game, they had the TDP for the AR10 50 or so years ago and it sat. The dual caliber platform is an interesting gadget but only time will tell if it will catch on. My guess is if it does catch on it will be commercial and if military it would be as a 7.62mm. It has nothing over the M110 or the already proven KAC family of weapons nor Armalite or LMT. The price and availability will help it over KAC, however KAC is entering more into the commercial market. As far as military, we will have to see how it does right out of the model shop and into trials. I have to say that the CM901 was designed by one of the finest engineers in the business, Larry Robbins. Larry was on the original M4 development team and holds several patents. Brilliant man. Brilliant enough he is no longer with Colt. After he completed the project he left for another more secure and stable position. You all would have read allot more about him in BR2 but someone told me he was dead! I walked into Colt one day and there he was! It was interesting to see some of the change in Colt politics from their release of the Sporter series back to commercial. This shit is undoubted doe to the loss of their government contracts. With some heavy debt and restructuring a severely fractured management structure Colt will have to struggle to survive. Trying to fill the voids with commercial guns in this economy will be difficult. More black rifle manufacturers are entering the international market who manufacture as good if not more advanced versions of the M4 series weapon. Many of those offer their rifles for up to $400 less.Over the past nearly 2 decades Colts commitment to government sales has taken them from the one time great development firm and cutting edge military development in modern combat rifles to a stagnant mass production company. Get the popcorn, this is gunna be an interesting story as it unfolds. |
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TechSpec, you realize no ground pounder is going to carry multiple uppers and ammo. The advantage is that the SCAR-H common receiver and the SP901 would allow changes at the unit level not at the individual soldier level.
It simplifies logistics for the unit commander without having some of the baggage that comes along with maintaining an MTOE. If hes authorized 3 M110s and 97 M4s on the MTOE, but needs 9 M110s due to mission demands, he'll be short 6 rifles without some sort of magic. With the common receiver program he only needs to account for 100 "rifles". He can then order the 9 uppers he needs as "parts", not as more MTOE accountable items. No commander, platoon leader, platoon sergeant is going to have his soldiers carrying 2 separate weapons. The attractiveness comes from a logistics standpoint. Too much is made of a soldier carrying multiple uppers. The only time that seems to be a marketing point is when the 2 uppers are chambered in the same caliber and are carried by snipers who need long range uppers and a short "assaulter" upper. |
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Originally Posted By TechSpec:
How many soldiers or marines out there are going to carry a spare upper, two different types of ammunition and magazines in their back pack???? You have a 7.62 rifle or a 5.56 rifle. You are only going to carry one in the field. If you have this as a 5.56mm it is an heavy bulky 5.56 compared to the standard M4. He forgot to tell you that you also have to switch your buffer as well so another part to carry in the field. So look at this as a basic 7.62 mm rifle. How does it differ from the proven ArmaLite family of AR-10 weapons and the already proven LMT LM308MWS rifle? All offer free floating barrels and ambi controls. LMT offers quick change barrels which beats the hell out of carrying a spare complete upper for a shorter length CQB version. Cost will be very interesting. All these manufacturers make selective fire versions of their rifles. Colt once again late in the game, they had the TDP for the AR10 50 or so years ago and it sat. The dual caliber platform is an interesting gadget but only time will tell if it will catch on. My guess is if it does catch on it will be commercial and if military it would be as a 7.62mm. It has nothing over the M110 or the already proven KAC family of weapons nor Armalite or LMT. The price and availability will help it over KAC, however KAC is entering more into the commercial market. As far as military, we will have to see how it does right out of the model shop and into trials. I have to say that the CM901 was designed by one of the finest engineers in the business, Larry Robbins. Larry was on the original M4 development team and holds several patents. Brilliant man. Brilliant enough he is no longer with Colt. After he completed the project he left for another more secure and stable position. You all would have read allot more about him in BR2 but someone told me he was dead! I walked into Colt one day and there he was! It was interesting to see some of the change in Colt politics from their release of the Sporter series back to commercial. This shit is undoubted doe to the loss of their government contracts. With some heavy debt and restructuring a severely fractured management structure Colt will have to struggle to survive. Trying to fill the voids with commercial guns in this economy will be difficult. More black rifle manufacturers are entering the international market who manufacture as good if not more advanced versions of the M4 series weapon. Many of those offer their rifles for up to $400 less.Over the past nearly 2 decades Colts commitment to government sales has taken them from the one time great development firm and cutting edge military development in modern combat rifles to a stagnant mass production company. Get the popcorn, this is gunna be an interesting story as it unfolds. uh huh yet carrying spare barrels and optics for the MWS is no problem? or the ACR aqnd SCAR. this BS onl y pops up when you are talking about colts design. you may have a axe to grind but the argument needs to be applied to more then just colts modular gun. we need to keep this as a technical thread on the gun, not comments on colts politics, managment structure adn wether or not they are the leading developers. and economic issues. so please keep it CM901 info and its specs or dont bother to post . this is my thread adn I will have it lovcked before it turns into colt bashing or smart ass comments from every troll that loves the active topics button |
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Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
TechSpec, you realize no ground pounder is going to carry multiple uppers and ammo. The advantage is that the SCAR-H common receiver and the SP901 would allow changes at the unit level not at the individual soldier level. It simplifies logistics for the unit commander without having some of the baggage that comes along with maintaining an MTOE. If hes authorized 3 M110s and 97 M4s on the MTOE, but needs 9 M110s due to mission demands, he'll be short 6 rifles without some sort of magic. With the common receiver program he only needs to account for 100 "rifles". He can then order the 9 uppers he needs as "parts", not as more MTOE accountable items. No commander, platoon leader, platoon sergeant is going to have his soldiers carrying 2 separate weapons. The attractiveness comes from a logistics standpoint. Too much is made of a soldier carrying multiple uppers. The only time that seems to be a marketing point is when the 2 uppers are chambered in the same caliber and are carried by snipers who need long range uppers and a short "assaulter" upper. Dave, That is what I said, no ground pounder will carry two different magazines, calibers and spare uppers and buffer! This makes no sense since there is no demand nor request for the 7.62x51mm to reenter as a main battle cartridge. To date, standard army only used 7.62 in limited roles in shoulder arms IE snipers. Their mission is very suspicious. For a sniper to take advantage of multi caliber, he would have to change out his weapon under stress, in the field and switch ammo. No logic. A dedicated sniper rifle along with a M4 or your spotter being equipped with an M4 to take care of those situations has proven itself a winning combo time after time. No soldier should carry more than one type of ammo for his primary weapon. Bottom line. This is for any number of common sense reasons. |
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I certainly agree, there is a tactical problem with many of the modular designs out there. They loose sight of who will be carrying them in the field. Also a major problem when designers do not either have field experience nor listen to what the customers want. There are a couple out there that are practical for real field use. The SCAR program was the closest to the more practical application of these weapons. Going with a light and a heavy is best. Combining the two into one makes for a oversize small caliber and a practical large caliber. No matter what you cut out, a large caliber rifle will alway be bulkier than one made for the smaller caliber. The U.S. government appears to want to stick with the 7.62 on a limited basis for use by snipers, DMR and special ops. International customers are looking the other way in Afghanistan. Brits have been very vocal. Unfortunately politics is what will determine if the civilian market ever sees many of these guns. Some of the companies have import/export issues and other companies have internal politics.
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
Originally Posted By TechSpec:
How many soldiers or marines out there are going to carry a spare upper, two different types of ammunition and magazines in their back pack???? You have a 7.62 rifle or a 5.56 rifle. You are only going to carry one in the field. If you have this as a 5.56mm it is an heavy bulky 5.56 compared to the standard M4. He forgot to tell you that you also have to switch your buffer as well so another part to carry in the field. So look at this as a basic 7.62 mm rifle. How does it differ from the proven ArmaLite family of AR-10 weapons and the already proven LMT LM308MWS rifle? All offer free floating barrels and ambi controls. LMT offers quick change barrels which beats the hell out of carrying a spare complete upper for a shorter length CQB version. Cost will be very interesting. All these manufacturers make selective fire versions of their rifles. Colt once again late in the game, they had the TDP for the AR10 50 or so years ago and it sat. The dual caliber platform is an interesting gadget but only time will tell if it will catch on. My guess is if it does catch on it will be commercial and if military it would be as a 7.62mm. It has nothing over the M110 or the already proven KAC family of weapons nor Armalite or LMT. The price and availability will help it over KAC, however KAC is entering more into the commercial market. As far as military, we will have to see how it does right out of the model shop and into trials. I have to say that the CM901 was designed by one of the finest engineers in the business, Larry Robbins. Larry was on the original M4 development team and holds several patents. Brilliant man. Brilliant enough he is no longer with Colt. After he completed the project he left for another more secure and stable position. You all would have read allot more about him in BR2 but someone told me he was dead! I walked into Colt one day and there he was! It was interesting to see some of the change in Colt politics from their release of the Sporter series back to commercial. This shit is undoubted doe to the loss of their government contracts. With some heavy debt and restructuring a severely fractured management structure Colt will have to struggle to survive. Trying to fill the voids with commercial guns in this economy will be difficult. More black rifle manufacturers are entering the international market who manufacture as good if not more advanced versions of the M4 series weapon. Many of those offer their rifles for up to $400 less.Over the past nearly 2 decades Colts commitment to government sales has taken them from the one time great development firm and cutting edge military development in modern combat rifles to a stagnant mass production company. Get the popcorn, this is gunna be an interesting story as it unfolds. uh huh yet carrying spare barrels and optics for the MWS is no problem? or the ACR aqnd SCAR. this BS onl y pops up when you are talking about colts design. you may have a axe to grind but the argument needs to be applied to more then just colts modular gun. we need to keep this as a technical thread on the gun, not comments on colts politics, managment structure adn wether or not they are the leading developers. and economic issues. so please keep it CM901 info and its specs or dont bother to post . this is my thread adn I will have it lovcked before it turns into colt bashing or smart ass comments from every troll that loves the active topics button |
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Has anyone heard if Colt will be releasing a factory SBR version? I would like to be able to throw my short 556 Colt uppers on every now and then... I just hate having to engrave my info on a Colt lower...
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Originally Posted By TechSpec:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
TechSpec, you realize no ground pounder is going to carry multiple uppers and ammo. The advantage is that the SCAR-H common receiver and the SP901 would allow changes at the unit level not at the individual soldier level. It simplifies logistics for the unit commander without having some of the baggage that comes along with maintaining an MTOE. If hes authorized 3 M110s and 97 M4s on the MTOE, but needs 9 M110s due to mission demands, he'll be short 6 rifles without some sort of magic. With the common receiver program he only needs to account for 100 "rifles". He can then order the 9 uppers he needs as "parts", not as more MTOE accountable items. No commander, platoon leader, platoon sergeant is going to have his soldiers carrying 2 separate weapons. The attractiveness comes from a logistics standpoint. Too much is made of a soldier carrying multiple uppers. The only time that seems to be a marketing point is when the 2 uppers are chambered in the same caliber and are carried by snipers who need long range uppers and a short "assaulter" upper. Dave, That is what I said, no ground pounder will carry two different magazines, calibers and spare uppers and buffer! This makes no sense since there is no demand nor request for the 7.62x51mm to reenter as a main battle cartridge. To date, standard army only used 7.62 in limited roles in shoulder arms IE snipers. Their mission is very suspicious. For a sniper to take advantage of multi caliber, he would have to change out his weapon under stress, in the field and switch ammo. No logic. A dedicated sniper rifle along with a M4 or your spotter being equipped with an M4 to take care of those situations has proven itself a winning combo time after time. No soldier should carry more than one type of ammo for his primary weapon. Bottom line. This is for any number of common sense reasons. Not sure why you called me "dave". There is demand for 7.62x51 rifles from certain units. Look at the SCAR-H, the SR-25 and the SR-25EMC. There is also demand for 7.62x51 rifles in more regular units. We're using M14 EBRs and M110s for squad designated marksmen, not just snipers. Having a precision marksman with a heavier round in a regular line units has become common practice. No person is going to take advantage of multi-calibers except from a commanders perspective. If I can't explain MTOE to you, I'm sorry, google it. However, it is good for commanders to have the option to make their rifles what they need them to be, as opposed to be authorized a certain number of 5.56 weapons and a certain number of 7.62 weapons . This way they can customize their arms rooms (not their rifles) for any possible missions. I'm currently an infantry officer. So I have a pretty good grasp on how great this would be for military officers who maintain an arms room. |
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If you want to disscuss the benefits or lack of for multicaliber/modular weapons and other off topic things like what grunts can/cant carry start another thread. I am trying to keep this on topic. I am going to ask a mod to police this. so please follow my simple request on this. I and some others dont want it to turn off topic. |
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Will do.
So, does this allow other SR-25 pattern uppers to be used, or is it a proprietary upper? It's got a funky shape to the front pivot pin. I believe I read it takes standard pattern ar-15 uppers though. So price is expected to be $1.5-1.7k? From Vuurwapen: "Colt’s new 901, a modular 7.62×51 weapon, will sell for “under $10,000″ according to a senior official. " Someone has a sense of humor and the intelligence not to give a price that won't be held to. I don't hold any hope it will be priced reasonably but if it did that would drive the cost of other .308 pattern ARs down. |
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I'm going to parrot the OP, in that I would like you guys to keep this thread on topic and not let it turn into a pissing match over everything else on the planet.
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sorry if this was asked and i missed it. whats up with the front pivot pin? it seems to be further down and foward compared to other ar 308 types. but they say it will work with standard ar uppers so is there some sort of adapter?
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what kind of velocity can we expect out of that 16" .308 barrel?
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Originally Posted By callahan318:
what kind of velocity can we expect out of that 16" .308 barrel? IIRC, a 16'' .308 barrel will offer 2500ish fps but I could be wrong |
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those rail covers are interesting Frens
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What size muzzle threads? 5/8 or 3/4?
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I want one. When are they coming out??
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From this Thread here http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=150&t=1139620 people said $1500-$2000 but who knows but i would for sure buy one in that price range.
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I'm really not excited about the Colt .308 gun.
I would have been plenty happy with an SR-25 pattern Colt. The lower on the Colt modular rifle is bloated with the .223 upper and we don't need another bloated assault rifle. We already have the SCAR, ACR, ARX160, G36, etc. All bloated. We also don't need another different pattern AR-10 gun. We already have the original AR-10 pattern, the DPMS pattern, the SR-25 pattern, the Armalite-Illinois pattern, the RRA-BM-FAL pattern, and now the Colt pattern. I eventually wanted the SR-25 pattern to kill all these other guns off, but now we have this. I really don't care for the whole modularity BS over the past 10 years with the SCAR, ACR, Colt .308. It is just easier to pick up another gun if you want change configuration. |
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man...unlike you guys i am excited for this rifle! I like the idea of having one lower and multiple uppers! for one i would like to get a lmp mrp upper and use that for everything below 308 and have the 308 for the long range area of the shooting range.
after doing some patent research i have come up with this: http://www.google.com/patents?id=7l57AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false if this doenst work look for Patent number: 7131228 in google patent search! whats above is the colt patent. it doesnt show a adaptor for the 556 but it shows interchangeable magwells! after doing some more searching i found the dpms patent for a modular carbine that looks like what the colt is using. in the pictures you can see the adapter(sort of). http://www.google.com/patents?id=yygHAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false if the link above doesnt work you can go into google patent search and look for...Patent number: 6293040 |
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
sorry if this was asked and i missed it. whats up with the front pivot pin? it seems to be further down and foward compared to other ar 308 types. but they say it will work with standard ar uppers so is there some sort of adapter? There is an adapter block, but we don't get to see it until the patent is filled by the .gov. Too many DPMS' and LMT's out there to show how to do it without the patent first. As for those of you speculating about price. Colt doesn't MSRP their products, so the prices we will see are going to be dictated by the market. I imagine dealers will come out swinging for the fences so to speak and will ask for 200% above cost. That will die down quick and the market will settle in, so if you wait a bit and don't need to have the first one off the line, you'll get a much better deal, whatever the price ends up being. Kinda like how it worked with the LE6940... Scott, In a way I agree with you, but I still find myself just simply happy that Colt has a 7.62x51mm offering finally. Also in a way, it's very similar to the SR25 pattern in that it excepts the same magazines and seems to function similarly. Sure you can't put a SR25 barreled upper on it, but so what? The last two SR25's I've handled had major function issues, feed, ejection, and light primer strikes. Of course the explanation is that the ammo used is the issue when you ask KAC, but I have a hard time accepting that Hornady and Nosler don't know what they're doing. While on the other hand, the same ammo is running through Mark's OBR's like a hot knife through butter. I think KAC is slipping in their QC and predict it's going to start hurting their value in the market soon. TechSpec, I simply think you've either missed the point on this gun or have some other grievance that most people don't know about. Get over it, move on and author another book... That's all I have to offer at this point in time while still doing my best to stay on point. Good thread Shawn. ETA: PG 4 = Predators. |
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Originally Posted By Predator:
Originally Posted By rgb03:
sorry if this was asked and i missed it. whats up with the front pivot pin? it seems to be further down and foward compared to other ar 308 types. but they say it will work with standard ar uppers so is there some sort of adapter? There is an adapter block, but we don't get to see it until the patent is filled by the .gov. Too many DPMS' and LMT's out there to show how to do it without the patent first. As for those of you speculating about price. Colt doesn't MSRP their products, so the prices we will see are going to be dictated by the market. I imagine dealers will come out swinging for the fences so to speak and will ask for 200% above cost. That will die down quick and the market will settle in, so if you wait a bit and don't need to have the first one off the line, you'll get a much better deal, whatever the price ends up being. Kinda like how it worked with the LE6940... Scott, In a way I agree with you, but I still find myself just simply happy that Colt has a 7.62x51mm offering finally. Also in a way, it's very similar to the SR25 pattern in that it excepts the same magazines and seems to function similarly. Sure you can't put a SR25 barreled upper on it, but so what? The last two SR25's I've handled had major function issues, feed, ejection, and light primer strikes. Of course the explanation is that the ammo used is the issue when you ask KAC, but I have a hard time accepting that Hornady and Nosler don't know what they're doing. While on the other hand, the same ammo is running through Mark's OBR's like a hot knife through butter. I think KAC is slipping in their QC and predict it's going to start hurting their value in the market soon. TechSpec, I simply think you've either missed the point on this gun or have some other grievance that most people don't know about. Get over it, move on and author another book... That's all I have to offer at this point in time while still doing my best to stay on point. Good thread Shawn. ETA: PG 4 = Predators. thanks. so is the lower made that way to be different (for looks) or does it serve a purpose? |
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Originally Posted By rgb03:
Originally Posted By Predator:
Originally Posted By rgb03:
sorry if this was asked and i missed it. whats up with the front pivot pin? it seems to be further down and foward compared to other ar 308 types. but they say it will work with standard ar uppers so is there some sort of adapter? There is an adapter block, but we don't get to see it until the patent is filled by the .gov. Too many DPMS' and LMT's out there to show how to do it without the patent first. As for those of you speculating about price. Colt doesn't MSRP their products, so the prices we will see are going to be dictated by the market. I imagine dealers will come out swinging for the fences so to speak and will ask for 200% above cost. That will die down quick and the market will settle in, so if you wait a bit and don't need to have the first one off the line, you'll get a much better deal, whatever the price ends up being. Kinda like how it worked with the LE6940... Scott, In a way I agree with you, but I still find myself just simply happy that Colt has a 7.62x51mm offering finally. Also in a way, it's very similar to the SR25 pattern in that it excepts the same magazines and seems to function similarly. Sure you can't put a SR25 barreled upper on it, but so what? The last two SR25's I've handled had major function issues, feed, ejection, and light primer strikes. Of course the explanation is that the ammo used is the issue when you ask KAC, but I have a hard time accepting that Hornady and Nosler don't know what they're doing. While on the other hand, the same ammo is running through Mark's OBR's like a hot knife through butter. I think KAC is slipping in their QC and predict it's going to start hurting their value in the market soon. TechSpec, I simply think you've either missed the point on this gun or have some other grievance that most people don't know about. Get over it, move on and author another book... That's all I have to offer at this point in time while still doing my best to stay on point. Good thread Shawn. ETA: PG 4 = Predators. thanks. so is the lower made that way to be different (for looks) or does it serve a purpose? It looks that way because if the pivot pin was in the same place an AR10 or SR25 lower is it wouldn't be compatible with AR15 uppers. When you use it as a 7.62 lower you have to use a proprietary upper which is shaped like an AR15 upper but the pivot pin is down lower and farther forward. When you use it as a 5.56 lower you can use any standard AR15 upper and the pivot pin is probably hidden inside the mag well and the pivot pin you see holds the adapter in place. Dustin |
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Has anyone here shot it at the media? I would love to know its accuracy potential.
I dont care if its SR25 based or not. its still pretty damn sweet to me. hell it may turn out to be a better system then the SR25. I know I have heard a lot of bad comments on the kAC platform. besides the KAC is a "sniper" rifle. the colt I ithnk is geared more towards a battle rifle |
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I'll take an anodized FDE .308 with 13" barrel please. That is all.
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If they have a 20" version and the street price is 12-15 hundred like the rumors I will have at least one of these.
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Wow - didn't know Colt was making these. What great news!
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Originally Posted By scottryan: I'm really not excited about the Colt .308 gun. I would have been plenty happy with an SR-25 pattern Colt. The lower on the Colt modular rifle is bloated with the .223 upper and we don't need another bloated assault rifle. We already have the SCAR, ACR, ARX160, G36, etc. All bloated. We also don't need another different pattern AR-10 gun. We already have the original AR-10 pattern, the DPMS pattern, the SR-25 pattern, the Armalite-Illinois pattern, the RRA-BM-FAL pattern, and now the Colt pattern. I eventually wanted the SR-25 pattern to kill all these other guns off, but now we have this. I really don't care for the whole modularity BS over the past 10 years with the SCAR, ACR, Colt .308. It is just easier to pick up another gun if you want change configuration. Agreed |
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Originally Posted By LimaTango01:
Originally Posted By scottryan:
I'm really not excited about the Colt .308 gun. I would have been plenty happy with an SR-25 pattern Colt. The lower on the Colt modular rifle is bloated with the .223 upper and we don't need another bloated assault rifle. We already have the SCAR, ACR, ARX160, G36, etc. All bloated. We also don't need another different pattern AR-10 gun. We already have the original AR-10 pattern, the DPMS pattern, the SR-25 pattern, the Armalite-Illinois pattern, the RRA-BM-FAL pattern, and now the Colt pattern. I eventually wanted the SR-25 pattern to kill all these other guns off, but now we have this. I really don't care for the whole modularity BS over the past 10 years with the SCAR, ACR, Colt .308. It is just easier to pick up another gun if you want change configuration. Agreed guys. like I said. this has nothing to do with tech info. please post your opinions of what should or should not be made in another thread, just not this one. I dont care what anyone thinks it should do, look like or offer. thats not the point. I hate to be this way, but anymore post like these and I will ask the mods to edit or something. this is meant as a technical post on the gun. not the " Bitchers chime in about what they dont like from the 901" thread |
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The .308 ARs will NEVER be standardized. Deal with it and move on.
I can't wait to see more about available barrel lengths, street price, and what is put into the magazine well to make the 5.56 uppers work. |
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Although highly unlikely, I believe this is the ideal opportunity for Colt to introduce a midlength 5.56 barrel to compliment the system.
Sorry if this is off track. Cheers |
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Talk about long overdue....
Unfortunately it seems that Colt has always been the last to show up at the party. However, some dates are worth waiting for. Good info so far with great visuals, however after scouring the pictures, I do have a question or two. 1.) Is it me or does the flip up front sight look substantially shorter than it should be for the Matech (or any BUIS) rear? 2.) Free floated or not? It's tough to tell. I'm excited for this weapon system, whether it be designed to be a true battle rifle or potentially as a precision rifle. If, in fact, it's the former, could this finally be the last nail in the coffin for the M-14/M1A? I'm in either way. |
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Originally Posted By J1911MCD:
Talk about long overdue.... Unfortunately it seems that Colt has always been the last to show up at the party. However, some dates are worth waiting for. Good info so far with great visuals, however after scouring the pictures, I do have a question or two. 1.) Is it me or does the flip up front sight look substantially shorter than it should be for the Matech (or any BUIS) rear? 2.) Free floated or not? It's tough to tell. I'm excited for this weapon system, whether it be designed to be a true battle rifle or potentially as a precision rifle. If, in fact, it's the former, could this finally be the last nail in the coffin for the M-14/M1A? I'm in either way. Dude where you been? 1.no the front sight is fine. same as on the 6940 and workds fine with the Matech, KAC, Troy etc etc etc 2. the barrel is free floating....just like the 6940 that has been out since 09... |
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This will be a game changer. An affordable combat ready .308 AR carbine. Colt engineering and build quality, priced for the masses. This should bring all the haters out of the woodwork!
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Originally Posted By an_hero:
This will be a game changer. An affordable combat ready .308 AR carbine. Colt engineering and build quality, priced for the masses. This should bring all the haters out of the woodwork! If it comes out to the masses it would be the first unique thing colt has offered in a while. I hope its a price contender too. I really want a REPR for a. 308 AR, but $3K is a little rich for me. It'd be great if more competition forced prices down. |
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I want one bad but I don't see it coming cheap,a 6940 is a little hard to find for under $1500.00 and a 6920 is around 1200.00 so how is this rifle going to be around 1500.00 ?
I will say the price is going to be in the mid 2500.00 range like some others ,but I hope I'm wrong ! At least I have some time to start saving up for it. |
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First one I've seen listed so far.
http://www.knesekguns.com/commercial/Rifles-Colt/c2_8/p2269/Colt-LE901-Multi-Cal-Weapon-System/product_info.html |
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I heard a piston version of this was in the works, to make at least the 7.62 NATO version a competitor in future trials. Any word on whether or not that's correct?
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Originally Posted By Progun1911:
I want one bad but I don't see it coming cheap,a 6940 is a little hard to find for under $1500.00 and a 6920 is around 1200.00 so how is this rifle going to be around 1500.00 ? I will say the price is going to be in the mid 2500.00 range like some others ,but I hope I'm wrong ! At least I have some time to start saving up for it. 6920s seem to be going as low as 1000 lately, maybe there is hope for the .308 to be under 1500. |
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