I Guess the Colt 6720 Is Rarer Than I Thought (Page 2 of 3)
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: Stop exaggerating.. Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: Originally Posted By oxford411: Towards the end it seemed like dealers could barely give them away. 6720 was my first AR. He's not. Many a dealer sat on them while guys clamored about the 6920s and the M4 profile barrel. |
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: Stop exaggerating.. Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: Originally Posted By oxford411: Towards the end it seemed like dealers could barely give them away. 6720 was my first AR. |
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Humble brag…I’ve two of them NIB that I picked up at a LGS back in June of 2014 when I was in Colorado. I broke them out today and damned if they don’t have the best Colt black finish and deepest roll markings that I ever recall…and the receipt in the box says I paid 899.00 each plus the governors sales tax…lol. FWIW both are low to mid 4,xxx SNs. Tell me you can smell the pictures  Attached File Attached File On another note this little philly was resting on top of them and insisted to get into action….pony is not as deep as we’d like but the factory ODG is the best I ran across when they came out circa 2012/2013…It’s not a 6720, but a LE6920MPG-ODG with Magpul furniture. Not part of the discussion but wanted to share as you don’t see too many of them in the wild  Attached File |
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Originally Posted By MudFlapper: Humble brag…I’ve two of them NIB that I picked up at a LGS back in June of 2014 when I was in Colorado. I broke them out today and damned if they don’t have the best Colt black finish and deepest roll markings that I ever recall…and the receipt in the box says I paid 899.00 each plus the governors sales tax…lol. FWIW both are low to mid 4,xxx SNs. Tell me you can smell the pictures https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54499/BC36718E-14FE-4D8E-9ACC-47805EF4EEAF_jpe-3200617.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54499/DAE795D8-3194-42B7-BECD-CD697C2D0536_jpe-3200618.JPG On another note this little philly was resting on top of them and insisted to get into action….pony is not as deep as we’d like but the factory ODG is the best I ran across when they came out circa 2012/2013…It’s not a 6720, but a LE6920MPG-ODG with Magpul furniture. Not part of the discussion but wanted to share as you don’t see too many of them in the wild https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54499/99CA4113-6170-4339-AEBF-40A5DB58F479_jpe-3200625.JPG Beautiful man! I bought mine about 3 years ago from Clyde Armory in Athens Ga. Was made in 2009. Your right about the beautiful deep roll mark. |
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Originally Posted By MudFlapper: Humble brag…I’ve two of them NIB that I picked up at a LGS back in June of 2014 when I was in Colorado. I broke them out today and damned if they don’t have the best Colt black finish and deepest roll markings that I ever recall…and the receipt in the box says I paid 899.00 each plus the governors sales tax…lol. FWIW both are low to mid 4,xxx SNs. Tell me you can smell the pictures https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54499/BC36718E-14FE-4D8E-9ACC-47805EF4EEAF_jpe-3200617.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54499/DAE795D8-3194-42B7-BECD-CD697C2D0536_jpe-3200618.JPG On another note this little philly was resting on top of them and insisted to get into action….pony is not as deep as we’d like but the factory ODG is the best I ran across when they came out circa 2012/2013…It’s not a 6720, but a LE6920MPG-ODG with Magpul furniture. Not part of the discussion but wanted to share as you don’t see too many of them in the wild https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54499/99CA4113-6170-4339-AEBF-40A5DB58F479_jpe-3200625.JPG Mine is in 11k serial number range. Great rifles, they work!!! |
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All lowers marked Lightweight are 6720's? Barrel is marked 02/2016 on this one. Found it a few months back in a pawnship in AZ. Attached File |
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Huh, I never knew they were not popular. They seem to have the best combination of features. Mine is s/n CAR00148X so I guess that was produced relatively early in the production lot. I don't remember what I paid for it new. It came with a Rogers Super Stoc stamped with Colt Defense on it. I thought I would ditch the stock but I grew to like it. It also has beefier handguards (M4?) than it should as I prefer the slim guards on my old 6520. ETA: It also came with a Matech rear sight. It is metal and other 6720s I have seen used Magpul flip up rear sights. |
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Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: Huh, I never knew they were not popular. They seem to have the best combination of features. I think it's just a relative thing when comparing them to the 6920. Assuming you don't have a grenade launcher, they do have the best combination of features. A 6920 obviously feels more muzzle heavy. When you compare them to a 6933, they feel about the same even though the barrels are 4.5" longer. The only thing I wonder about is the thin barrels impacting group size. |
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Originally Posted By Bret: I think it's just a relative thing when comparing them to the 6920. Assuming you don't have a grenade launcher, they do have the best combination of features. A 6920 obviously feels more muzzle heavy. When you compare them to a 6933, they feel about the same even though the barrels are 4.5" longer. The only thing I wonder about is the thin barrels impacting group size. Originally Posted By Bret: Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: Huh, I never knew they were not popular. They seem to have the best combination of features. I think it's just a relative thing when comparing them to the 6920. Assuming you don't have a grenade launcher, they do have the best combination of features. A 6920 obviously feels more muzzle heavy. When you compare them to a 6933, they feel about the same even though the barrels are 4.5" longer. The only thing I wonder about is the thin barrels impacting group size. Molon covered this. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Bret: I think it's just a relative thing when comparing them to the 6920. Assuming you don't have a grenade launcher, they do have the best combination of features. A 6920 obviously feels more muzzle heavy. When you compare them to a 6933, they feel about the same even though the barrels are 4.5" longer. The only thing I wonder about is the thin barrels impacting group size. It hurts to even type the words but I don't have a grenade launcher.  The pencil barrel ARs I have had have always shot well. The only modifications I made on the 6720 was to ditch the A2 grip and install a Geissele trigger unit. The trigger made the rifle much easier to shoot. I also put on an Aimpoint Patrol optic and that made the weight pork out a bit. My son has discovered ARs and for some reason he wants to build a Retro A1 Vietnam era rifle. I wish I hadn't ditched all the piles of stuff I had when I scratch built my first AR back in 1986. I tried to explain to him that the A1 sights were not great but at least the old ARs were light weight. The pork fest ARs of today are a mystery to me. My nephew is a Marine and he told me his service rifle with all the doodads was pushing at least 8 pounds- maybe more. |
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Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: I suppose a fixed carry handle would make it a 6520. The barrels at least look identical to me (I have both). Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: Were 6720s always flat top, or did early ones come with a fixed carry handle? |
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: 6520s were A2 carry handles. 6720s were flat tops (with or without detachable carry handle). Both 16" pencil barrels. Thoroughbred Armament Co has some interesting A2 URGs in stock currently. 
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Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: My son has discovered ARs and for some reason he wants to build a Retro A1 Vietnam era rifle. I wish I hadn't ditched all the piles of stuff I had when I scratch built my first AR back in 1986. I tried to explain to him that the A1 sights were not great but at least the old ARs were light weight. I have a 6720 barrel that I had cut to 14.7” on a c7 upper, repop n1 stock and skinny handguards. It’s about perfect for a lightweight KISS rifle. |
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Originally Posted By rgb03: They actually didn't move all that well. They were heavily discounted at one point. But hey go off Originally Posted By rgb03: Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: Originally Posted By oxford411: Towards the end it seemed like dealers could barely give them away. 6720 was my first AR. Sadly, people are and were so concerned with "clone correct" M4's that they have a closed mind toward the lightweight barrel. But once you're behind it in a 16" rifle and experience for yourself how light, handy, and maneuverable it is compared to the heavier M4 barrel profiled guns, you'll realize that the 6720 was maybe the best kept secret in the Colt catalog. Once I shot mine, I actually "got it" how nose heavy a standard M4 is and how it basically sucks for ease of pointing. I can just imagine how much worse the heavy SOCOM barrel is. But, hey, sometimes you gotta experience things for yourself and not just follow the crowd. I still have a couple of standard Colt M4's, just because I hate to part with them, but for a SHTF weapon I'm grabbing the 6720. |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: Sadly, people are and were so concerned with "clone correct" M4's that they have a closed mind toward the lightweight barrel. But once you're behind it in a 16" rifle and experience for yourself how light, handy, and maneuverable it is compared to the heavier M4 barrel profiled guns, you'll realize that the 6720 was maybe the best kept secret in the Colt catalog. Once I shot mine, I actually "got it" how nose heavy a standard M4 is and how it basically sucks for ease of pointing. I can just imagine how much worse the heavy SOCOM barrel is. But, hey, sometimes you gotta experience things for yourself and not just follow the crowd. I still have a couple of standard Colt M4's, just because I hate to part with them, but for a SHTF weapon I'm grabbing the 6720. You are exactly right. My first AR was a 20" HBAR... It was insanely front heavy, so when the 94 AWB ended in 2004 I went to swap it out for a 20" A2 profile barrel and it made a world of difference (at the time I didn't think it could get better). But, I started getting into 20" A1 profile pencil barrels and I also got couple 16" 6720 barrels and they are by far my favorites. Sure, I still like my "clones" that have 20" A2 profile barrels, but I wouldn't really want to go take a long walk with them. |
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Originally Posted By Bret: I don't know when I got my AR6520 or what I paid for it, but I got my AR6720 off gunbuyer.com in 2015 for $787 delivered. The AR6520 is LEO marked. I tried to sell it once. Fortunately, I was unsuccessful. https://i.postimg.cc/wMrrgrGx/AR6520-over-AR6720.jpg I had a cop trade-in 6520. Loved it, but it nagged at me that it had the fixed carry handle and the 6720 was more "adaptable" with the flat top. At the time I only had the one 6720, so....sacrifices had to be made. I sold the 6520 to buy another 6720 because Arms Unlimited had either told me over the phone or had a disclaimer on their website that the 6720's were in short supply. I didn't know at the time I was probably taking the opportunity to purchase one of the last ones made, but that's apparently how it turned out. I have not seen any advertised since, nor have I seen just the upper on sale anywhere. |
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Has anyone seen one that looks laser etched? I picked one up a few years ago and didn’t see another one until someone posted a picture of CAR003462 with the same markings and fonts here. It’s not on Colts serial number lookup, but I don’t have the greatest luck with that search tool. Maybe someone liked the 6720s so much they faked some up? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Teknys: Has anyone seen one that looks laser etched? I picked one up a few years ago and didn’t see another one until someone posted a picture of CAR003462 with the same markings and fonts here. It’s not on Colts serial number lookup, but I don’t have the greatest luck with that search tool. Maybe someone liked the 6720s so much they faked some up? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/313693/IMG_8130_jpeg-3409808.JPG That is a new one to me. I do have a pic of a 20” a4 roll mark that I believe is a preproduction that was toted around to shows that has a hybrid rollmark. It’s all stamped except the “AR-15A4”. It’s a completely different font than what you have posted. I have no idea how Colt does there serial numbers because I’ve seen some things over the years that didn’t make sense on other Colt rifles but as a reference my 6720 is around 1000 over that serial number and was bought somewhere around 2014. Do you have a full pic of that side of the lower? |
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Originally Posted By Teknys: Has anyone seen one that looks laser etched? I picked one up a few years ago and didn’t see another one until someone posted a picture of CAR003462 with the same markings and fonts here. It’s not on Colts serial number lookup, but I don’t have the greatest luck with that search tool. Maybe someone liked the 6720s so much they faked some up? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/313693/IMG_8130_jpeg-3409808.JPG Looks fake to me.. Does the lower has the usual unmachined area aka sear block? People making clones usually don’t clone that part of the lower.. |
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Originally Posted By oxford411: That is a new one to me. I do have a pic of a 20” a4 roll mark that I believe is a preproduction that was toted around to shows that has a hybrid rollmark. It’s all stamped except the “AR-15A4”. It’s a completely different font than what you have posted. I have no idea how Colt does there serial numbers because I’ve seen some things over the years that didn’t make sense on other Colt rifles but as a reference my 6720 is around 1000 over that serial number and was bought somewhere around 2014. Do you have a full pic of that side of the lower? It is stashed away and I can’t remember where. I’ll try to see if I can fish it out. It was slightly used, but nothing struck me as being off about it other than the different “rollmark”. Why would someone fake a carbine that apparently not many people wanted - at least twice. I found the pick posted of the other one, and will repost it. |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: I can just imagine how much worse the heavy SOCOM barrel is. . My buddy’s 14.5” SOCOM balances pretty good and “handles” better than a 16” 6920 set-up the same way (light plus RD with magnifier). The SOCOM barrel’s weight is more evenly distributed and it feels nice when moving from target to target. Just my observation. |
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Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: LE trade in 6520s $900 https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/LE-trade-in-Colt-A2-with-Restricted-Markings/5-2767328/ That's a slightly different animal and is OOS but if someone is looking for a 6721, there is one on the EE currently for $1075 that's a little salty. Its not mine or my sale. Just throwing it out there |
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Originally Posted By jagdkommando: Yes Originally Posted By jagdkommando: Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: Distributors sell to dealers? So that's not necessarily reflective of actually consumer demand. Dealers thought there would be demand and ordered beaucoup from distributors and then were left holding when there wasn't actual consumer demand. |
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04: My buddy’s 14.5” SOCOM balances pretty good and “handles” better than a 16” 6920 set-up the same way (light plus RD with magnifier). The SOCOM barrel’s weight is more evenly distributed and it feels nice when moving from target to target. Just my observation. Originally Posted By urbankaos04: Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: I can just imagine how much worse the heavy SOCOM barrel is. . My buddy’s 14.5” SOCOM balances pretty good and “handles” better than a 16” 6920 set-up the same way (light plus RD with magnifier). The SOCOM barrel’s weight is more evenly distributed and it feels nice when moving from target to target. Just my observation. ~ 4 oz difference. |
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: How is the thin barrel better the M4 style? Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: Originally Posted By texas_mustang_01: I bought one in the 2010 era. Thin barrel always better than M4. Looks sexy as hell. It was my first Colt AR so that I always had one in the safe. Handling... Lightweight was what the AR was meant to be, and as usual, the government fu#ked it up. |
| My personal AR6720 was obtained in early 2014. (Wilson) barrel date of 02/13 It is CAR00410x. It is 100% rollmarked. Everything . I wonder if they had some unused numbers and used them at a later date. My lower has a factory scratch at the pivot pin boss which I have seen on other colts as well. |
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Originally Posted By SmegHead: My personal AR6720 was obtained in early 2014. (Wilson) barrel date of 02/13 It is CAR00410x. It is 100% rollmarked. Everything . I wonder if they had some unused numbers and used them at a later date. My lower has a factory scratch at the pivot pin boss which I have seen on other colts as well. I don’t know. I sent in a Colt archives request thing to get a letter of confirmation. I won it from gunbroker fairly cheap I think - maybe its questioned legitimacy made others not bid. I’ll keep digging for the dang thing. I can’t find the archived thread that had #3462’s picture in it. I was hoping someone out there would have another one or know of one. Maybe someone was trying to see how light they could make the rollmark and still be legible. Lol Disappointed in myself for not taking more pictures the last time I had it out. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff: Handling... Lightweight was what the AR was meant to be, and as usual, the government fu#ked it up. |