Posted: 7/12/2023 9:18:14 AM EDT
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Attached File Curious as to whether these bear any markings inside, similar to KAC/P&S  @PrimaryArms |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20230711-123934_Samsung_Inter-2882898.JPG Curios as to whether these bear any markings inside, similar to KAC/P&S @PrimaryArms Have both RAS rails in my cart, and I'm wondering the same thing! Either way, as long as they are US made, ill give them a try, but it sure would be nice if they where connected to KAC/P&S! |
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Originally Posted By curbo2683: Have both RAS rails in my cart, and I'm wondering the same thing! Either way, as long as they are US made, ill give them a try, but it sure would be nice if they where connected to KAC/P&S! Originally Posted By curbo2683: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20230711-123934_Samsung_Inter-2882898.JPG Curios as to whether these bear any markings inside, similar to KAC/P&S @PrimaryArms Have both RAS rails in my cart, and I'm wondering the same thing! Either way, as long as they are US made, ill give them a try, but it sure would be nice if they where connected to KAC/P&S! Doubtful. |
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Originally Posted By curbo2683: Have both RAS rails in my cart, and I'm wondering the same thing! Either way, as long as they are US made, ill give them a try, but it sure would be nice if they where connected to KAC/P&S! Originally Posted By curbo2683: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/416992/Screenshot_20230711-123934_Samsung_Inter-2882898.JPG Curios as to whether these bear any markings inside, similar to KAC/P&S @PrimaryArms Have both RAS rails in my cart, and I'm wondering the same thing! Either way, as long as they are US made, ill give them a try, but it sure would be nice if they where connected to KAC/P&S! Expo Arms products are all US made |
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: Expo Arms products are all US made But are there any markings on rail adapter halves? Other than T,L,B,&R slot markings? Heat shield, inside of upper RAS half? Any actual photos of sample product that can be uploaded here? |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: But are there any markings on rail adapter halves? Other than T,L,B,&R slot markings? Heat shield, inside of upper RAS half? Any actual photos of sample product that can be uploaded here? This ☝️.. Would love some more detailed pictures at least..The US made info is good to know though ! |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: @CORDrew Much appreciated.  @TGWLDR Here it is. Looks good to me, but I don't have another RAS to compare with. Cage code 8FW25 (Prudent) is marked on every part. I'm going to mount it up this week. I'm happy for the price I paid ($108 shipped).  
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FYI rifle length is in stock https://www.primaryarms.com/expo-arms-m16-ras-quad-rail-hanguard-rifle-length |
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Originally Posted By CORDrew: @TGWLDR Here it is. Looks good to me, but I don't have another RAS to compare with. Cage code 8FW25 (Prudent) is marked on every part. I'm going to mount it up this week. I'm happy for the price I paid ($108 shipped). https://i.imgur.com/6CKVNBX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/t3c1KVn.jpg @CORDrew Thanks man! Exactly what I suspected but wasn't sure. Great price for that RAS. |
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Originally Posted By CORDrew: FYI rifle length is in stock https://www.primaryarms.com/expo-arms-m16-ras-quad-rail-hanguard-rifle-length If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll post photos of the rifle length RAS when it arrives. |
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FWIW, these are Prudent American Technologies as stated above, Cage Code: 8FW25 (formerly P&S), DoD contract pieces. Solid kit and legit. https://prudentamerican.com/defense-military/ |
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: Brownells joined the fun as well Yeah, they've had them for awhile now. Maybe 90 days or so. Just not at this stellar pricing. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Yeah, they've had them for awhile now. Maybe 90 days or so. Just not at this stellar pricing. Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Wangstang: Brownells joined the fun as well Yeah, they've had them for awhile now. Maybe 90 days or so. Just not at this stellar pricing. The M4 version is only around $7 price difference between Brownells and PA and is in stock. I’m not sure why the M5 sold by Brownells is so much higher. Didn’t stop them from selling out though. I bought four of the M4s and two M5s from Brownells just to stash one of each away and the use the others on builds. While I’m sure the actual KAC marked RAS will still sell for a premium, I’m glad we have an option that isn’t $250-$300. |
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Originally Posted By MK318: The M4 version is only around $7 price difference between Brownells and PA and is in stock. I’m not sure why the M5 sold by Brownells is so much higher. Didn’t stop them from selling out though. I bought four of the M4s and two M5s from Brownells just to stash one of each away and the use the others on builds. While I’m sure the actual KAC marked RAS will still sell for a premium, I’m glad we have an option that isn’t $250-$300. Originally Posted By MK318: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Wangstang: Brownells joined the fun as well Yeah, they've had them for awhile now. Maybe 90 days or so. Just not at this stellar pricing. The M4 version is only around $7 price difference between Brownells and PA and is in stock. I’m not sure why the M5 sold by Brownells is so much higher. Didn’t stop them from selling out though. I bought four of the M4s and two M5s from Brownells just to stash one of each away and the use the others on builds. While I’m sure the actual KAC marked RAS will still sell for a premium, I’m glad we have an option that isn’t $250-$300. $112 at PA vs $146 at Brownells last I looked for RAS M4. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: $112 at PA vs $146 at Brownells last I looked for RAS M4. Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By MK318: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Originally Posted By Wangstang: Brownells joined the fun as well Yeah, they've had them for awhile now. Maybe 90 days or so. Just not at this stellar pricing. The M4 version is only around $7 price difference between Brownells and PA and is in stock. I’m not sure why the M5 sold by Brownells is so much higher. Didn’t stop them from selling out though. I bought four of the M4s and two M5s from Brownells just to stash one of each away and the use the others on builds. While I’m sure the actual KAC marked RAS will still sell for a premium, I’m glad we have an option that isn’t $250-$300. $112 at PA vs $146 at Brownells last I looked for RAS M4. Thanks @TGWLDR for posting the link over in the M4 mega thread. I’ve been needing a RAS but didn’t know these were released — just snagged one for $136 from Brownells. It’s the second time this week you hooked me up Edit: also, on that other forum, I saw that Stickman posted a nice review of the Expo Arms rail. |
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Originally Posted By PAESAN: Thanks @TGWLDR for posting the link over in the M4 mega thread. I’ve been needing a RAS but didn’t know these were released — just snagged one for $136 from Brownells. It’s the second time this week you hooked me up Edit: also, on that other forum, I saw that Stickman posted a nice review of the Expo Arms rail. @PAESAN Happy to help. And thanks for the heads up on Stickman's review on TOS. Damn nice pics/details as usual. |
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Originally Posted By The_Jethro: My A4 clones are big sad right now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/211047/Screenshot_20230901-113525_Chrome-2939362.jpg I haven't seen them in stock at that price, but I am checking it everyday. |
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Originally Posted By The_Jethro: Looks like both versions were removed from the site. With Brownells removing theirs some time ago, I wonder what's up? Pure conjecture here, but PSA might have an exclusive contract. I’m 99% sure P&S is making the RAS for them. |
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Pure conjecture here, but PSA might have an exclusive contract. I’m 99% sure P&S is making the RAS for them. That’s what I’m beginning to wonder. Pretty shitty for customers if so. I hope PSA will be offering them (and asked in their forum). FN also has them on their rifles so might be another FN/PSA partnership. Prudent makes a lot of stuff for FN. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: That’s what I’m beginning to wonder. Pretty shitty for customers if so. If you do the math on the PSA they’re charging a premium for something that was cheaper before they got sole distribution. Alternatively, PA may have gotten their hands on the last of a production run that was slated to not restart for dirt cheap, but PSA ponied up and had another run done. Unless the parties involved are willing to share their insider info, we probably won't know. @MARSH1 @PrimaryArms @PalmettoStateArmory @mike_nds @Jman_JJE |
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Originally Posted By Wangstang: Alternatively, PA may have gotten their hands on the last of a production run that was slated to not restart for dirt cheap, but PSA ponied up and had another run done. Unless the parties involved are willing to share their insider info, we probably won't know. @MARSH1 @PrimaryArms @PalmettoStateArmory @mike_nds @Jman_JJE Yep. I went back and edited since I didn’t consider the possibility that it was a clearance/over run on Prudent’s end. The prices were crazy better than they were popping up elsewhere. You quoted me seconds before the edit though. 
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Originally Posted By Lancelot: So are we just out of luck now? Not even seeing these listed anymore. That’s my guess. PA, PSA, Brownells, none of them seem to want to talk about it. The only way to get one at the moment is a lucky NOS P&S find or to buy a complete FN or PSA rifle. |
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Originally Posted By Lancelot: Guess these are now vapor ware. Prudent filed for bankruptcy back in October and it doesn’t look like the military will be buying any more of them. Looks like a Midwest two piece with the bridge chopped off is going to be the closest anyone can get for now unless they pony up for a NOS. I’ve been crossing my fingers PSA would buy Prudent. If they go under that’s going to cause a massive market shortage. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Prudent filed for bankruptcy back in October and it doesn’t look like the military will be buying any more of them. Looks like a Midwest two piece with the bridge chopped off is going to be the closest anyone can get for now unless they pony up for a NOS. I’ve been crossing my fingers PSA would buy Prudent. If they go under that’s going to cause a massive market shortage. Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By Lancelot: Guess these are now vapor ware. Prudent filed for bankruptcy back in October and it doesn’t look like the military will be buying any more of them. Looks like a Midwest two piece with the bridge chopped off is going to be the closest anyone can get for now unless they pony up for a NOS. I’ve been crossing my fingers PSA would buy Prudent. If they go under that’s going to cause a massive market shortage. Someone please @ Jamin, I don’t remember his handle. |
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