Colt 16-inch And 13-inch Barrel M7 7.62 Combat Rifles (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 9/19/2023 11:36:48 PM EDT
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In Arms Unlimited 'New Product' section (scroll to the bottom of the home page) on their website they show a 16-inch and 13-inch barreled M7 combat rifle. This would be Colt's current 7.62mm design. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Frens: Will they work with the 901 adapter for 556 uppers? In the description it says it can be used with Colt's proprietary conversion kit, but it doesn't specify if the old 901 adapter will work. "When combined with Colt’s proprietary conversion kit, the M7 is capable of receiving new and legacy Colt 5.56x45MM NATO, 7.62x39MM and .300 Blackout upper receivers on its stock lower receiver, effectively making it capable of becoming 4 rifles in 1" |
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Originally Posted By securenet: In the description it says it can be used with Colt's proprietary conversion kit, but it doesn't specify if the old 901 adapter will work. "When combined with Colt’s proprietary conversion kit, the M7 is capable of receiving new and legacy Colt 5.56x45MM NATO, 7.62x39MM and .300 Blackout upper receivers on its stock lower receiver, effectively making it capable of becoming 4 rifles in 1" Originally Posted By securenet: Originally Posted By Frens: Will they work with the 901 adapter for 556 uppers? In the description it says it can be used with Colt's proprietary conversion kit, but it doesn't specify if the old 901 adapter will work. "When combined with Colt’s proprietary conversion kit, the M7 is capable of receiving new and legacy Colt 5.56x45MM NATO, 7.62x39MM and .300 Blackout upper receivers on its stock lower receiver, effectively making it capable of becoming 4 rifles in 1" The only difference is the upper so assume the adapter would still work and is still listed on colts site as the same |
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Ooh, another Colt that's got my attention. I'd had given up on seeing these offered again. Do these have adjustable gas? Would be great and help with suppression. Eta: 16" description - "It is also capable of being fired utilizing a sound suppressor with both supersonic and sub-sonic ammunition at the press of a button thanks to the integrated dual position, low profile gas block." I'm skeptical about this part of the ad description because my CM762-16S does not have an adjustable gas block. I'm saving up for this. Thanks for the heads up! Tagged. Eta: I'm going to shoot my CM762 today in honor of this thread. Attached File Update: Attached File |
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Originally Posted By D-G-P: It would be nice if Colt offered these in both Black and FDE. OR, they could go completely mad and offer ODG as well. But I’d “settle” for a pair in basic black. The challenge that manufacturers have with offering a model in multiple finishes is that production costs increase and sales of the additional finish (FDE, OD, etc.) are not as high as the traditional models. The M7 is already a very expensive platform. The lower sales of another finish variant probably wouldn't support the scale of production required to make it worthwhile. The lower the quantity produced, the higher the distributor/retail cost. Having said that, as many of us know about Colt, never say never. Sometimes they do what you least expect them to whether it is for good or bad.  |
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Originally Posted By Redhed97: Anyone know the weight on both versions? Also interested! Attached File |
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Originally Posted By quicksilvergoat04: Outside of inflation why are these so much more than the last run of CM762’s? Am I missing something? Looks like they lightened them up quite a bit, but agree. There’s some pretty stiff competition in that price range and almost an extra $1000 is pretty wild. |
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| I think of the automotive and aerospace tech from the mid to late 1950’s (2nd Gen Bel Air, F-4 Phantom), and the advances that have been made since, and cannot help being completely impressed with the relevance and longevity of this rifle’s performance and design. Hell, when Beretta, HK, SIG have developed “new” rifles, they rely heavily on design features of a weapon system that has already been in service for more than 6 decades. The reintroduction of a 7.62 variant is exciting news. |
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Originally Posted By quicksilvergoat04: Outside of inflation why are these so much more than the last run of CM762’s? Am I missing something? The previous LE901's/CM762s MSRP was about $2500. They are extremely expensive to produce and Colt still has to make money. Before the Covid/riot panic buying, you could get LE901's and CM762's in the $1500 to $2000 range because retailers were trying to dump inventory in a slow market. So, the M7 isn't really priced higher per se...it is MSRP about the same as the LE901/CM762. Materials and labor cost are higher now as well. |
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Originally Posted By quicksilvergoat04: Outside of inflation why are these so much more than the last run of CM762’s? Am I missing something? The cost of raw materials and labor are increased. Colt also lost a lawsuit to LMT over the monolithic chassis of the 694x and 762 series, which resulted in a redesign to the M5 and M7 uppers. Design, prototyping, testing, iterative changes in design, and changes in tooling/production all equate to higher cost. If these are reliable, accurate, and durable, they will be a hit in my opinion. Colt is competing with LMT, DD, and KAC, not the lower tier 308 gas guns. Personally, I can’t wait to add a couple to my collection. |
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Originally Posted By Bishop3: Ooh, another Colt that's got my attention. I'd had given up on seeing these offered again. Do these have adjustable gas? Would be great and help with suppression. Eta: 16" description - "It is also capable of being fired utilizing a sound suppressor with both supersonic and sub-sonic ammunition at the press of a button thanks to the integrated dual position, low profile gas block." I'm skeptical about this part of the ad description because my CM762-16S does not have an adjustable gas block. I'm saving up for this. Thanks for the heads up! Tagged. Eta: I'm going to shoot my CM762 today in honor of this thread. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/20220415_122111_jpg-2963262.JPG Update: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/20230923_094339_jpg-2963391.JPG The description of the gas block is pulled directly from the colt website. |
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Originally Posted By call_me_ski: The description of the gas block is pulled directly from the colt website. I get that, that description isn't new either. I'm saying, my CM762-16S did not have an adjustable gas block. I am skeptical for that reason. Will the next M7 run have an adjustable gas block or not? I think adjustable gas would allow for more reliable sound suppression out of the box. It may not make a difference to some, but I want to use sound suppression and want an adjustable gas block. I'm more excited about the M7 than I was the M5. |
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Originally Posted By Bishop3: I get that, that description isn't new either. I'm saying, my CM762-16S did not have an adjustable gas block. I am skeptical for that reason. Will the next M7 run have an adjustable gas block or not? I think adjustable gas would allow for more reliable sound suppression out of the box. It may not make a difference to some, but I want to use sound suppression and want an adjustable gas block. I'm more excited about the M7 than I was the M5. |
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: It says right in the description that it has 2 positions. Nothing to be skeptical about Yes, Marine. 'Reading' the older description for the CM762-16S it does read plainly in the description it has an adjustable gas block. My Colt factory CM762-16S did not have an adjustable gas block. And that is my reasoning, justifiably, for being a bit skeptical with the current descriptions for the CM762-16A. "since my CM762-16S straight from the Colt factory does not have adjustable gas. I am somewhat disappointed it will not come with the original M7 design push button adjustable gas block. This makes me also doubt the current listed specs on weight, etc. My CM762-16S rifle is a heavy pig. Though, I still plan to buy another one. I really enjoy reading the posts here & can always learn something new. I do appreciate the shared knowledge about my favorite weapons. My very first Colt rifle was issued to me by the US goverment a Colt M16A2. Eta: see Crayon notations  Attached File |
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I think this is the original listing for the CM762-16S that was previously released. https://www.colt.com/detail-page/colt-cm762-16s-308win-161-20rd-blk MSRP was $1499 This seems to be what AU has listed. 16” https://www.colt.com/detail-page/cm762-16s 13” Version https://www.colt.com/international/detail-page/cm762-13s I only offer this up because maybe the newest version will have an adjustable gas block. |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: The previous LE901's/CM762s MSRP was about $2500. They are extremely expensive to produce and Colt still has to make money. Before the Covid/riot panic buying, you could get LE901's and CM762's in the $1500 to $2000 range because retailers were trying to dump inventory in a slow market. So, the M7 isn't really priced higher per se...it is MSRP about the same as the LE901/CM762. Materials and labor cost are higher now as well. Yup, I just checked my CM762 order. I think I got in at nearly the rock bottom of $1,395 delivered, in the summer of 2019, the near height of the Trump Gun-Glut. People forget all the manufacturers produced and produced and produced through 2015-16, selling things like mad and expecting there to be a YUGE run on guns, ammo, and magazines when HRC would be elected in Nov '16… but that didn't happen, so we had the 'Golden Age of Firearm Industry product availability" from Nov '16 into the summer of '20… Good times… Back OT, I'm looking forward to more CM762 pattern rifles, uppers, etc. |
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Originally Posted By RichardJBizz: The lower looks exactly like the CM762 lower, so I would guess yes. No reason they would re-engineer that stuff when it's already designed, spec'ed and ready to go. Just wanted to make sure since those rifles are quite rare over here and conversion are even more rare… But I have the chance to get one of those kits now just in case I’ll get the rifle later |
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Originally Posted By Bishop3: Yes, Marine. 'Reading' the older description for the CM762-16S it does read plainly in the description it has an adjustable gas block. My Colt factory CM762-16S did not have an adjustable gas block. And that is my reasoning, justifiably, for being a bit skeptical with the current descriptions for the CM762-16A. "since my CM762-16S straight from the Colt factory does not have adjustable gas. I am somewhat disappointed it will not come with the original M7 design push button adjustable gas block. This makes me also doubt the current listed specs on weight, etc. My CM762-16S rifle is a heavy pig. Though, I still plan to buy another one. I really enjoy reading the posts here & can always learn something new. I do appreciate the shared knowledge about my favorite weapons. My very first Colt rifle was issued to me by the US goverment a Colt M16A2. Eta: see Crayon notations https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/20220414_194508_jpg-2965584.JPG |
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: What does the Crayon add in mean??? Good morning, keeping on topic, I really like my CM762, Marine. 'Crayons' was an attempt at some humor. I'm looking forward to this re-run release. Though, I'm skeptical there will be any updates or change in design over the CM762-16S (lightening weight, adjustable gas block & the reciever extension). IMHO the rifle would really shine with a factory adjustable gas block like the original design. It may be Colts way of cutting cost to be more profitable. Similar to skipping some finishing steps e.g. forge flashing removal. |
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Originally Posted By Bishop3: Good morning, keeping on topic, I really like my CM762, Marine. 'Crayons' was an attempt at some humor. I'm looking forward to this re-run release. Though, I'm skeptical there will be any updates or change in design over the CM762-16S (lightening weight, adjustable gas block & the reciever extension). IMHO the rifle would really shine with a factory adjustable gas block like the original design. It may be Colts way of cutting cost to be more profitable. Similar to skipping some finishing steps e.g. forge flashing removal. |
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Originally Posted By MGYSGT8541: Let's keep the put down of Marines out it. No need to be a dipshit. This is my humor back at you.. I'm a Marine, not a 'dipshit'. What I mean is, next time, before spouting off about someone's post try better reading the post first. I clarified what I was saying twice. Do you understand, Marine? As far as the M7 goes, we'll eventually see what Colt puts out. Semper Fi |
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Originally Posted By Bishop3: I'm a Marine, not a 'dipshit'. What I mean is, next time, before spouting off about someone's post try better reading the post first. I clarified what I was saying twice. Do you understand, Marine? As far as the M7 goes, we'll eventually see what Colt puts out. Semper Fi |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: You guys just can't resist acting like grade-schoolers. Makes a person not even want to come back here. I'm really not wound up that tight, I apologize and stand corrected. For I do realize now that sometimes I shouldn't engage for the sake of it all. I didn't really intend to offend anyone. Thank you and those who contribute to the forum. I enjoy this Colt forum too much. |
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Originally Posted By Bishop3: I'm really not wound up that tight, I apologize and stand corrected. For I do realize now that sometimes I shouldn't engage for the sake of it all. I didn't really intend to offend anyone. Thank you and those who contribute to the forum. I enjoy this Colt forum too much. |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: The gas system is not adjustable. The website is incorrect. The non-adjustable gas block is confirmed? Do you or anyone know if these same listed specifications for the M7 CM762-16A, 13A (weight, 6-position receiver extension, etc.) are an accurate description? I ask this because my example 16S does not meet those specifications entirely. My thoughts are this release may likely be same as the last CM762-16S production run. M7 specifications: Attached File How ever Colt pulls it off, I'm still interested because I like Colt's. Thank you. |
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