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12/20/2017 5:43:19 AM EDT
Flew a buddy in for a week of 260 UU kits fun.  Some pics and data from our shenanigans.

The Rifles
2 BLK Ultimate upper kits, 260 obv
2x 5-20x50 Razors, 35mm awesomeness
1x Magpul PRS stock
1x Magpul UBR Gen2
2x Geissele National Match Triggers, love my MBTs but these were given to us
2x form1 cans

First day of shooting we worked on some loads and got the two UU's sighted in, was a balmy 32deg.

My first grouping, 41/41.5/42/42.5/43g of H4350 under a Hornady 130g ELD-M.  With one that decided it did NOT want to be a part of the group....  @100y (measured in inches, not moa)


InfiniteGrim's First, Sierra 130g TMKs at 41/41.5/42/42.5/43g of H4350, @100y


Our Awesome setup, magneto did not miss a beat but boy does it shift POI(about -.6moa)


We then pushed out to 300/500/700y to ring some steal, my wifes Cherokee makes a decent shooting platform, bit shaky when two are shooting from it though.

300y


300y steel group by me, top three not the bottom one


300 or 500 ringing steel, dont remember.  It was dark but still able to see with the Razors


500y


MOA Freedom wheel @500y, much fun with that!  We also had fun tag teaming it.


708y, got my first 700y first round hit here


Have some plates from an order that was wrong, what do you do with plates that are wrong?

Shoot them!


Seems my new phone does a decent slowmo


High-tech testing Fixture


Don't think these will be fixed under warranty


We also shot the plate with some M80A1, this is the mag from that, still runs!


We decided to hit an actual range and do some 300y groupings on some of our refined loads.  This is a county range that I had not been to in over 20 years, cheap and relaxing except for the 37deg day.  We brought 130g ELDM and 140g Nosler RDFs to group with us, a bit over 150 rounds for the day.  Most of our groups were .5-.7 with a few around .9 and a couple in the low 1.0s, all at 300y

The setup


It is a Hot range so you shoot the targets they have up.  What do you get in December in Washington?  Wet faded crap targets..... we did well surprisingly


We were able to grab our targets when the range closed, this was the best group of the day by InfiniteGrim.  This is 42.5g H4350 and a 130g ELDM


Sunday we had family day, failed at pics.....  But my wife fired her first ever 500yard shots on her tippy toes over the hood of her Cherokee, 4 rounds fired and 4 hits on the 10x20 plate  The Larue + 260 do make this pretty easy!

Today we went back out to the Mountains to have some fun, was a down poor the whole day and COLD!

Majority of our shooting was at 718y at a 10x20 plate and some refreshments.  


Me


More Me


And......Me


Nice View


Ryan making it look easy


Me making it look hard


Our mostly faithful companion on our range trips, tuckered out!


Some load data, mostly greek to me.  UUr is Infinites rifle, UUs is mine

Hornady 130g ELDM


Nosler 140g RDF


Sierra 130g TMK


Some observations/issues, and some extra for the Drama!

We did nothing except build then shoot these, didnt even clean the barrel and my first group was .482moa, was expecting 10moa but Oh-Well.

CCI and S&B Primers seem to be the same.  Lapua brass avg about 20fps faster then the Starline brass with the same load.

InfiniteGrims rifle had 2 failure to feeds from an open bolt, released from the bolt stop.  Around 300 rounds on that rifle at that time with no cleaning, fed another 100 or so after that with no issue or cleaning.

I had 2 failures to fire, neither had primer strikes(light or anything).  Re-fed both and they fired, continued with the day and no further issues.  That evening we opened mine up and found that the cotter pin retaining the firing pin had broke, a small piece was lodged under the extractor(explain that one) and a larger piece of it was under my firing control group.


Both of our rifles have a case of the Yeast infection.  No idea what is casuing it, some sort of reaction or salts from the anodizing?  Once wiped off it does not return(so far)




Both of our rifles short stroked a bit unsuppressed, this does not bother either of us as we are only running these suppressed.  I had bought 2 SLR adjustable gas blocks for these but they have run so well suppressed we are not putting them on, and neither of us have gotten gas to the face.

Resizing Prime, Lapua and Starline brass fired from both of these has been uneventful with an RCBS FL die as well as a Redding and Hornady bushing sizer.  So much for that xtraxn chamber causing issues

Cherry Balmz is the shit


Rain is cold AND wet... Incase you people from Texas didn't know


Really should have submitted our first targets to the MOA all day, just an observation....

The end
12/20/2017 7:03:12 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
Flew a buddy in for a week of 260 UU kits fun.  Some pics and data from our shenanigans.

The Rifles
2 BLK Ultimate upper kits, 260 obv
2x 5-20x50 Razors, 35mm awesomeness
1x Magpul PRS stock
1x Magpul UBR Gen2
2x Geissele National Match Triggers, love my MBTs but these were given to us
2x form1 cans

First day of shooting we worked on some loads and got the two UU's sighted in, was a balmy 32deg.

My first grouping, 41/41.5/42/42.5/43g of H4350 under a Hornady 130g ELD-M.  With one that decided it did NOT want to be a part of the group....  @100y
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20stus%20first%20groups.jpg

InfiniteGrim's First, Sierra 130g TMKs at 41/41.5/42/42.5/43g of H4350, @100y
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20tmk%20first%20group.jpg

Our Awesome setup, magneto did not miss a beat but boy does it shift POI(about -.6moa)
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/chrono.jpg

We then pushed out to 300/500/700y to ring some steal, my wifes Cherokee makes a decent shooting platform, bit shaky when two are shooting from it though.

300y
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20reasons.jpg

300y steel group by me, top three not the bottom one
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/300y.jpg

300 or 500 ringing steel, dont remember.  It was dark but still able to see with the Razors
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/night.jpg

500y
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20500y.jpg

MOA Freedom wheel @500y, much fun with that!  We also had fun tag teaming it.
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20500%20freedomwheel.jpg

708y, got my first 700y first round hit here
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20708y.jpg

Have some plates from an order that was wrong, what do you do with plates that are wrong?

Shoot them!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ3l-rZ-vDw

Seems my new phone does a decent slowmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnqEae2xRnU

High-tech testing Fixture
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20testing.jpg

Don't think these will be fixed under warranty
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20test2.jpg

We also shot the plate with some M80A1, this is the mag from that, still runs!
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20troymag.jpg

We decided to hit an actual range and do some 300y groupings on some of our refined loads.  This is a county range that I had not been to in over 20 years, cheap and relaxing except for the 37deg day.  We brought 130g ELDM and 140g Nosler RDFs to group with us, a bit over 150 rounds for the day.  Most of our groups were .5-.7 with a few around .9 and a couple in the low 1.0s, all at 300y

The setup
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20whatcom%20range.jpg

It is a Hot range so you shoot the targets they have up.  What do you get in December in Washington?  Wet faded crap targets..... we did well surprisingly
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/shitteh.jpg

We were able to grab our targets when the range closed, this was the best group of the day by InfiniteGrim.  This is 42.5g H4350 and a 130g ELDM
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20tmk%20group.jpg

Sunday we had family day, failed at pics.....  But my wife fired her first ever 500yard shots on her tippy toes over the hood of her Cherokee, 4 rounds fired and 4 hits on the 10x20 plate  The Larue + 260 do make this pretty easy!

Today we went back out to the Mountains to have some fun, was a down poor the whole day and COLD!

Majority of our shooting was at 718y at a 10x20 plate and some refreshments.  
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/last%20day%20range.jpg

Me
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20stu%20prone.jpg

More Me
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20stu%20260rem.jpg

And......Me
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20prone%20both.jpg

Nice View
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20scenic.jpg

Ryan making it look easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk5UTX5zR7I

Me making it look hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOCbp9r74kA

Our mostly faithful companion on our range trips, tuckered out!
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20rough%20range%20day.jpg

Some load data, mostly greek to me.  UUr is Infinites rifle, UUs is mine

Hornady 130g ELDM
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/260%20Hornady%20130%20ELDM%20chrono.JPG

Nosler 140g RDF
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/260%20Nosler%20Chrono.JPG

Sierra 130g TMK
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/260%20Sierra%20130%20TMK%20chrono.JPG

Some observations/issues, and some extra for the Drama!

We did nothing except build then shoot these, didnt even clean the barrel and my first group was .482moa, was expecting 10moa but Oh-Well.

CCI and S&B Primers seem to be the same.  Lapua brass avg about 20fps faster then the Starline brass with the same load.

InfiniteGrims rifle had 2 failure to feeds from an open bolt, released from the bolt stop.  Around 300 rounds on that rifle at that time with no cleaning, fed another 100 or so after that with no issue or cleaning.

I had 2 failures to fire, neither had primer strikes(light or anything).  Re-fed both and they fired, continued with the day and no further issues.  That evening we opened mine up and found that the cotter pin retaining the firing pin had broke, a small piece was lodged under the extractor(explain that one) and a larger piece of it was under my firing control group.
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20brokeit.jpg

Both of our rifles have a case of the Yeast infection.  No idea what is casuing it, some sort of reaction or salts from the anodizing?  Once wiped off it does not return(so far)
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20coke.jpg
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20coke2.jpg
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20coke3.jpg

Both of our rifles short stroked a bit unsuppressed, this does not bother either of us as we are only running these suppressed.  I had bought 2 SLR adjustable gas blocks for these but they have run so well suppressed we are not putting them on, and neither of us have gotten gas to the face.

Resizing Prime, Lapua and Starline brass fired from both of these has been uneventful with an RCBS FL die as well as a Redding and Hornady bushing sizer.  So much for that xtraxn chamber causing issues

Cherry Balmz is the shit
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20cherries.jpg

Rain is cold AND wet... Incase you people from Texas didn't know
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20rain.jpg

Really should have submitted our first targets to the MOA all day, just an observation....

The end
http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/qq%20end.jpg
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Heck of a post, thanks for taking the time for such a detailed range report!  That load data is also consistent with what some of us have been finding with our 260's; you'll find the barrels will speed up after about 200 or so rounds. Also, some of us have found the 260 barrels seem to prefer a bit less velocity versus pushing it faster.  Oh, and nice improvised brass catcher too.
12/20/2017 7:26:48 AM EDT
[#2]
Awesome post. I didnt realize you were so close.  If you ever pass through southern Idaho, let me know! I will show you where most of the Dillo Herders you made went  :)
12/20/2017 10:20:47 AM EDT
[#3]
Brass catcher courtesy of USPS? I like it.

12/20/2017 2:25:25 PM EDT
[#4]
So how much cleaning and break-down is required after shooting them in the rain all day?
How long can you run stuff like this wet without rusting it?
12/20/2017 3:57:55 PM EDT
[#5]
I’d guess that substance where your hand guard meets your upper is gas blowback from shooting suppressed. Probably stopped because it has built up inside now.
12/20/2017 4:23:28 PM EDT
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So how much cleaning and break-down is required after shooting them in the rain all day?
How long can you run stuff like this wet without rusting it?
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So how much cleaning and break-down is required after shooting them in the rain all day?
How long can you run stuff like this wet without rusting it?
For us, none.  Give them a shake before tossing in the car and when we get home open everything up, lock bolt back and open scope caps.  They dry in a short time.

I used to be anal since a good portion of my shooting life has been in the rain, best time to shoot here as no one else is out to bug you.  Now I just make sure to let them air dry completely before putting them away.

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Awesome post. I didnt realize you were so close.  If you ever pass through southern Idaho, let me know! I will show you where most of the Dillo Herders you made went  :)
Rolling through there thursday on our way to Oklahoma, not sure of the route we are taking yet.

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Brass catcher courtesy of USPS? I like it.

http://www.pictures.esstac.com/260rem/chrono.jpg
They also make good target stands, amazing the uses for them
12/20/2017 4:32:43 PM EDT
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I’d guess that substance where your hand guard meets your upper is gas blowback from shooting suppressed. Probably stopped because it has built up inside now.
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The white showed up on Infinites before even shooting, he had his together a month before I received and assembled mine.
12/20/2017 4:42:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Helluva post, white jizz and all.
12/20/2017 5:28:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Looks like fun...
12/20/2017 6:59:28 PM EDT
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The white showed up on Infinites before even shooting, he had his together a month before I received and assembled mine.
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Well that’s strange. Awesome pair of rifles and great post.
12/20/2017 9:10:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Great post. Thanks for taking the time to post the data.
12/21/2017 8:55:43 AM EDT
[#12]
Outstanding!
12/21/2017 9:54:54 AM EDT
[#13]
Fantastic post, and looks like a great time! You're making it reeeeally hard for me not to order an upper in one of the 6.5s to keep my .308s company... and I am super broke right now...
12/23/2017 11:25:06 AM EDT
[#14]
You two guys have always been serious.  This is one of the better posts I've read on this site in a long time.  Thorough would probably be understated.  And of course this whole shindig speaks to the rifles, and the dude turning them out.
12/23/2017 12:45:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Great post!
12/23/2017 10:49:02 PM EDT
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You two guys have always been serious.  This is one of the better posts I've read on this site in a long time.  Thorough would probably be understated.  And of course this whole shindig speaks to the rifles, and the dude turning them out.
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Serious? you a funny guy
12/23/2017 11:47:58 PM EDT
[#17]
I've never been a huge fan of that range, but it was always close and cheap.  Where did you find to shoot 700 yards?  I lived in Skagit until a few years ago, guess I never had the hookup!
12/24/2017 1:25:18 AM EDT
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Serious? you a funny guy
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Let me clarify.   Serious....as in gets it done. Lol.   I've dealt with you a bit as well on P&S.
12/24/2017 3:14:41 AM EDT
[#19]
Little Prime 130g data to go with the handloads

12/24/2017 12:25:30 PM EDT
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You two guys have always been serious.  This is one of the better posts I've read on this site in a long time.  Thorough would probably be understated.  And of course this whole shindig speaks to the rifles, and the dude turning them out.
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But, I'm damn curious about the white jizz oozing out of the cracks  


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