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3/9/2012 3:29:16 PM EDT
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3/9/2012 4:15:44 PM EDT
[#2]
Nice
3/9/2012 4:15:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Double tap
3/9/2012 6:17:49 PM EDT
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3/10/2012 12:08:20 AM EDT
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I'm #1 on the list with DSG Arms for one. Hope they're one of the first to get them!
3/12/2012 4:39:20 AM EDT
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I'd like to know if these are LEO marked
3/12/2012 8:25:33 AM EDT
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I'd like to know if these are LEO marked


I don't believe they are.  I think Colt is putting the same lower on all the LE and SP models now, with the "M4 CARBINE" and caliber being the standard rollmark for both lines.  The difference is the serial number, the first two digits are either LE or SP.
3/12/2012 8:48:17 AM EDT
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I'd like to know if these are LEO marked


the pics HERE show a semiauto lower marked M4 Carbine
3/12/2012 10:10:29 AM EDT
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3/12/2012 11:21:59 AM EDT
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3/12/2012 11:32:20 AM EDT
[#12]


MOAR!
3/12/2012 11:44:20 AM EDT
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jagdkommando,
what's the purpose of that little hex screw on the left side of the upper receiver?
3/12/2012 11:51:35 AM EDT
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jagdkommando,
what's the purpose of that little hex screw on the left side of the upper receiver?


One of the improvements of the coming 6940P over the old LE1020 piston design is the addition of a hardened insert in the upper receiver to align the cam pin instead of it wearing on the inside of the upper receiver.  That hex screw is part of that system.
3/12/2012 12:27:13 PM EDT
[#15]
Colt, why is this necessary? Pistons are dumb.
3/12/2012 12:46:28 PM EDT
[#16]
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Colt, why is this necessary? Pistons are dumb.


Market share.
3/12/2012 12:52:44 PM EDT
[#17]
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Colt, why is this necessary? Pistons are dumb.


Market share.


exactly. when there is a market for it why not make it?

the military will stay DI and colt will get a good amount of the market with their pistons
3/12/2012 1:32:19 PM EDT
[#18]
Oh and Shawn, since I know KY grows some big crows down there, I'll join you for a plate
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I think it would have been a mistake to not have the SP901 accept and ship with the MagPul 308 P mag.  The work great, are readily available, and they cost $17 bucks.


Exactly...
Already stocking up!


same
I hope this thing gets here before summer.  Predator acts like he knows something...


I know nothing. All I know is that every gun Colt designs is vaporware until it reaches a distributor.

I'm still waiting for my LE1020 and SCW!




I think this one is a bit different.  POs have been accepted, They continue to advertise it, I think this may be the real deal






it was the same with the LE1020.  places would take orders and deposits for it for months even around two years.

I wouldnt count on seeing a 901 this month





and this is THE MOST RETARDED thread I have ever seen, or the biggest troll thread I have ever seen

3/12/2012 3:48:01 PM EDT
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Colt, why is this necessary? Pistons are dumb.


Your opinion, which is like something else everyone has.

Don't like it, don't buy it.

3/12/2012 4:05:39 PM EDT
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Oh and Shawn, since I know KY grows some big crows down there, I'll join you for a plate
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I think it would have been a mistake to not have the SP901 accept and ship with the MagPul 308 P mag.  The work great, are readily available, and they cost $17 bucks.


Exactly...
Already stocking up!


same
I hope this thing gets here before summer.  Predator acts like he knows something...


I know nothing. All I know is that every gun Colt designs is vaporware until it reaches a distributor.

I'm still waiting for my LE1020 and SCW!




I think this one is a bit different.  POs have been accepted, They continue to advertise it, I think this may be the real deal






it was the same with the LE1020.  places would take orders and deposits for it for months even around two years.

I wouldnt count on seeing a 901 this month





and this is THE MOST RETARDED thread I have ever seen, or the biggest troll thread I have ever seen






what are you talking about?


that is NOT a LE1020  and the 901 is not shipping. i was talking about a 1020   and was saying dont believe it until you actually  see them in peoples hands
3/12/2012 4:26:06 PM EDT
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Oh and Shawn, since I know KY grows some big crows down there, I'll join you for a plate
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I think it would have been a mistake to not have the SP901 accept and ship with the MagPul 308 P mag.  The work great, are readily available, and they cost $17 bucks.


Exactly...
Already stocking up!


same
I hope this thing gets here before summer.  Predator acts like he knows something...


I know nothing. All I know is that every gun Colt designs is vaporware until it reaches a distributor.

I'm still waiting for my LE1020 and SCW!




I think this one is a bit different.  POs have been accepted, They continue to advertise it, I think this may be the real deal






it was the same with the LE1020.  places would take orders and deposits for it for months even around two years.

I wouldnt count on seeing a 901 this month





and this is THE MOST RETARDED thread I have ever seen, or the biggest troll thread I have ever seen






what are you talking about?


that is NOT a LE1020  and the 901 is not shipping. i was talking about a 1020   and was saying dont believe it until you actually  see them in peoples hands



1) it was meant as a good natured jab in reference to a piston AR variant
2) explain the differences between the 1020 and the 6940P, besides having the bottom rail being removable, 'Cause I am not seeing them.

3/12/2012 6:14:54 PM EDT
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Oh and Shawn, since I know KY grows some big crows down there, I'll join you for a plate
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I think it would have been a mistake to not have the SP901 accept and ship with the MagPul 308 P mag.  The work great, are readily available, and they cost $17 bucks.


Exactly...
Already stocking up!


same
I hope this thing gets here before summer.  Predator acts like he knows something...


I know nothing. All I know is that every gun Colt designs is vaporware until it reaches a distributor.

I'm still waiting for my LE1020 and SCW!




I think this one is a bit different.  POs have been accepted, They continue to advertise it, I think this may be the real deal






it was the same with the LE1020.  places would take orders and deposits for it for months even around two years.

I wouldnt count on seeing a 901 this month





and this is THE MOST RETARDED thread I have ever seen, or the biggest troll thread I have ever seen






what are you talking about?


that is NOT a LE1020  and the 901 is not shipping. i was talking about a 1020   and was saying dont believe it until you actually  see them in peoples hands



1) it was meant as a good natured jab in reference to a piston AR variant
2) explain the differences between the 1020 and the 6940P, besides having the bottom rail being removable, 'Cause I am not seeing them.





look closer, there are a few differnces  i am bad at using the serach function to find the old threads with the close up pics.
one thing is, its not called the LE1020 because there are enough changes to justify a  new name/model.


my earlier posts,like yours were a joke based on the fact that a lot of guys just knew the 1020 would come out,  I never meant to imply the 40P was not going to happen, but i am surprised it shipped out as fast as it did.
3/12/2012 7:04:48 PM EDT
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Colt, why is this necessary? Pistons are dumb.


Your opinion, which is like something else everyone has.

Don't like it, don't buy it.



considering this is the internet, hes free to voice his opinion.
3/12/2012 7:20:06 PM EDT
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Colt, why is this necessary? Pistons are dumb.


Your opinion, which is like something else everyone has.

Don't like it, don't buy it.



considering this is the internet, hes free to voice his opinion.


Yeah, thanks. Never said he wasn't, just made a reference.

3/12/2012 7:31:43 PM EDT
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jagdkommando,
    We appreciate the pics; VERY nice looking rifle! Hope it groups well. Show us the details of anything that looks different inside the upper & lower receiver when you have time.

                                                                                               TIA,
                                                                                               Carey
3/12/2012 11:28:38 PM EDT
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One of the improvements of the coming 6940P over the old LE1020 piston design is the addition of a hardened insert in the upper receiver to align the cam pin instead of it wearing on the inside of the upper receiver.  That hex screw is part of that system.


thanks RealFast,
so is it something needed only on piston guns?
I'm curious to see that insert to better understand how it works.

3/13/2012 10:29:54 AM EDT
[#27]
MOAR!!!

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semi4sale.cgi?read=247872

WTS: NIB Colt LE6940P $1999By:Matt S at Clyde Armory in Athens, GA <[email protected]> (70.155.87.162)
Date: 3/12/12 16:47
We just got a shipment of these from Colt. This is their new piston-model rifle. Monolithic upper, flip-up sights (front sight now locks into place), new-style stock, two 20-round factory magazines, sling, manual, sling swivels.
"Piston Carbine" rollmark
Blue-label box
"LP" serial prefix
Colt Defense

Shipping is $20, credit cards add 3%. Please have payment arrive within five business days of commitment to purchase or we will have to re-list. Please call to order- If I miss your call, leave a detailed message and I will get back with you as soon as possible.

Thanks for looking!

Matt Salie

Clyde Armory
4800 Atlanta Hwy.
Bogart, GA 30622
T: 706.549.1842 ext. 209
F: 706. 549.3232
clydearmory.com


3/14/2012 5:30:54 AM EDT
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One of the improvements of the coming 6940P over the old LE1020 piston design is the addition of a hardened insert in the upper receiver to align the cam pin instead of it wearing on the inside of the upper receiver.  That hex screw is part of that system.


thanks RealFast,
so is it something needed only on piston guns?
I'm curious to see that insert to better understand how it works.



Yes primarily on piston guns.

Consider a gas gun - where the gas comes into the bolt carrier and pushes the bolt against the barrel extension which in turn because of the cam path in the carrier unlocks it and continues to push it to it's full extension as it continues rearward.  

Now a piston gun - the bolt carrier is pushed rearward by the op rod, and the bolt is unlocked- and it's unlocked by the cam path of the carrier; but it's unlocked not because there is gas inside of the bolt carrier separating the bolt from the carrier... instead it's unlocked because the barrel extension holds it until it has turned sufficiently inside the extension to clear the lugs.  Now once it has moved back and cleared the lugs, there is nothing "forcing" the bolt forward - and typically (on a "drop-in" piston converted gas gun for instance) the result of this is significant wear in the upper receiver where the cam pin is free to impact the upper receiver.

The HK416 mitigates this somewhat by having a spring inside the bolt and carrier - which in turn caused them to have to make other adjustments such as increasing the buffer spring weight in order to compensate since the spring inside the bolt carrier literally fights the buffer spring's ability to close the bolt.

Many other piston guns though just wear this area in the upper receiver out over time until they've given the cam pin just enough space to turn a few degrees prior to closing... so it can start impacting the barrel extension.  Fail.

3/14/2012 6:15:12 PM EDT
[#29]
Are the screws on the carrier staked ?

Is the bottom of the bolt carrier any different ?

3/14/2012 6:23:23 PM EDT
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Are the screws on the carrier staked ?

Is the bottom of the bolt carrier any different ?



I noticed that also i see no staking
3/14/2012 10:35:26 PM EDT
[#31]
thanks again realfast, that makes sense
3/15/2012 1:27:54 AM EDT
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One of the improvements of the coming 6940P over the old LE1020 piston design is the addition of a hardened insert in the upper receiver to align the cam pin instead of it wearing on the inside of the upper receiver.  That hex screw is part of that system.


thanks RealFast,
so is it something needed only on piston guns?
I'm curious to see that insert to better understand how it works.



Yes primarily on piston guns.

Consider a gas gun - where the gas comes into the bolt carrier and pushes the bolt against the barrel extension which in turn because of the cam path in the carrier unlocks it and continues to push it to it's full extension as it continues rearward.  

Now a piston gun - the bolt carrier is pushed rearward by the op rod, and the bolt is unlocked- and it's unlocked by the cam path of the carrier; but it's unlocked not because there is gas inside of the bolt carrier separating the bolt from the carrier... instead it's unlocked because the barrel extension holds it until it has turned sufficiently inside the extension to clear the lugs.  Now once it has moved back and cleared the lugs, there is nothing "forcing" the bolt forward - and typically (on a "drop-in" piston converted gas gun for instance) the result of this is significant wear in the upper receiver where the cam pin is free to impact the upper receiver.

The HK416 mitigates this somewhat by having a spring inside the bolt and carrier - which in turn caused them to have to make other adjustments such as increasing the buffer spring weight in order to compensate since the spring inside the bolt carrier literally fights the buffer spring's ability to close the bolt.

Many other piston guns though just wear this area in the upper receiver out over time until they've given the cam pin just enough space to turn a few degrees prior to closing... so it can start impacting the barrel extension.  Fail.



Your post sums up why I will never own a piston AR.
3/15/2012 2:51:01 AM EDT
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Your post sums up why I will never own a piston AR.


It certainly does sum up why drop-in kits were the hotness about 4 years ago, and now you don't hear anything about them.

3/15/2012 2:20:55 PM EDT
[#34]
is that a new  button on the front of the site that locks or unlocks?? I have not noticed this before

3/15/2012 3:31:52 PM EDT
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I think there was discussion about this in another thread or maybe on TOS-  but yeah the front sight locks in the up position.
3/15/2012 4:08:44 PM EDT
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I think there was discussion about this in another thread or maybe on TOS-  but yeah the front sight locks in the up position.


yeah I just read about it some where else , it locks it in the up position,   sweet

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