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3/3/2017 6:21:28 PM EDT
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Are you fucking serious
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Prime has free shipping on one case plus one box.  Use code: CASE+1 expires 3/10/17



Are you fucking serious


He is, I got the e-mail this afternoon.  Aren't you on their mailing list?
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He is, I got the e-mail this afternoon.  Aren't you on their mailing list?
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Prime has free shipping on one case plus one box.  Use code: CASE+1 expires 3/10/17



Are you fucking serious


He is, I got the e-mail this afternoon.  Aren't you on their mailing list?


I wasn't signed up for emails until I made the order. That kind of pisses me off that the owner didn't tell me that on the phone when he called me and thanked me for the order.
3/3/2017 7:03:47 PM EDT
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I wasn't signed up for emails until I made the order. That kind of pisses me off that the owner didn't tell me that on the phone when he called me and thanked me for the order.
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Are you fucking serious


He is, I got the e-mail this afternoon.  Aren't you on their mailing list?


I wasn't signed up for emails until I made the order. That kind of pisses me off that the owner didn't tell me that on the phone when he called me and thanked me for the order.


Don't get too wrapped up, it happens.
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Okay, I'm back from the range.  My initial thoughts are very positive, the rifle is rock solid and a quality build. It shot smoothly and I'd say softer than my 7.62. I am going to remove the carbine length buffer (etc.) and replace with an adjustable rifle length system. I just couldn't get as comfortable behind the .260 as I am behind my 7.62 tOBR that has a Magpul PRS. I also could tell that I've not been behind a rifle for months, it showed in MY performance, not the rifle's. I should have been able to get more out of her, but being rusty didn't help. I had FGGM and Prime .260 ammo.

At the Izaak Walton League range a few miles from the house and at my usual spot.  The people at the range packed up just as I arrived so for a short time I was alone!  I was going to wear the MBT hat, but it was cold, windy and snowing so I had to differ to the armadillo watch cap:

 

Dillo approved:



I had used the Leupold Zero Point bore site thing but was not sure how close I was due to the front of the TQ brake having ridges.  I shot the first sighters at 50 yards to make sure I was close.  Good thing as I wasn't as close as I had hoped:



The first rounds, FGMM:



First shots were very promising. The OnTarget adjusts the 50 yards to a true MOA. The top group is the first shots, then two more groups to get my windage :



I made adjustments and just when I was going out to 100, we had a small snow squall:



When I went to 100 three more shooters showed up, so the tranquility of shooting alone and being able to check groups was over!  The range is co-located with the pistol range, so every time someone wants to check a target both rifle and pistol have to go cold.  It really is a pain to get in a rhythm only to have someone whining wanting to check their target. [/rant off]



I also chrono'd using the Magnetospeed V3 both unsuppressed and suppressed:







I used the TQ to warm up my hands today.  



This is what I was referring to about being rusty.  Here's the first group with the Prime.  It started great, but I threw the 3rd round badly.  I think my bipod moved just as I squeezed it off; it could have been so much better!



Same problem with the FGMM, 3rd shot fail!



Here's the best FGMM group for the day:



FGMM, with the same center POA, but with the TQ:



Prime with the TQ (Magnetospeed attached):



Interesting are the chrono speeds, I would have thought the TQ would have added (consistently) 30-50FPS:

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3/3/2017 7:54:01 PM EDT
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Nice
3/3/2017 7:55:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Defender3:


Don't get too wrapped up, it happens.
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Originally Posted By buss45:
Prime has free shipping on one case plus one box.  Use code: CASE+1 expires 3/10/17



Are you fucking serious


He is, I got the e-mail this afternoon.  Aren't you on their mailing list?


I wasn't signed up for emails until I made the order. That kind of pisses me off that the owner didn't tell me that on the phone when he called me and thanked me for the order.


Don't get too wrapped up, it happens.


I'm not, now. I wanted to text/call/email and bitch about it but I should have asked. It's on me this time.
3/3/2017 8:06:16 PM EDT
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Thanks for the range report D3!
3/3/2017 8:37:58 PM EDT
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So bummed I couldn't jump into the .260 club. Sadly, I knew when it was announced it would not make it into CA before the first of the year.

Nice looking sticks guys; enjoy.
3/3/2017 8:44:54 PM EDT
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??????
Prime Ammo in your swag?.
???????
3/3/2017 9:04:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By icecold1:
Mine shot a .347 group that I can easily cover with a dime.
It's a 22" and says 130 Berger match on the target hope the prime shoots better I see a .3 group in my future.



3/3/2017 9:21:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fr8dog:
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Prime Ammo in your swag?.
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Yup, a $64 perk.

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Hmmmm............

Very nice touch.
3/3/2017 9:37:37 PM EDT
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Very nice!  My 22" was 0.854"
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Since Prime currently has the Case+1 deal, I just ordered a case of the Prime .260 and a box of their 308 175gr OTM using the free shipping code (CASE+1).  The CEO (Jim) called and we had a nice chat about Prime and how LaRue is using it for their .260s before they go out the door.  
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Lol, definitely not my day to buy a lotto ticket. I ordered a case plus one without free shipping and there was not any ammo in my swag. Oh well it is going to be a sunny day at the range tomorrow and cold enough that I will have it to myself for a few hours. Life is good.
3/4/2017 7:46:35 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fr8dog:
Lol, definitely not my day to buy a lotto ticket. I ordered a case plus one without free shipping and there was not any ammo in my swag. Oh well it is going to be a sunny day at the range tomorrow and cold enough that I will have it to myself for a few hours. Life is good.
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Early adopter blues.........

I'm going to see if I have the right adjustable stock and make the change on mine today if I do.  I may also try and get to the range tomorrow now that I have some more of the Prime ammo.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Okay, I'm back from the range.  My initial thoughts are very positive, the rifle is rock solid and a quality build. It shot smoothly and I'd say softer than my 7.62. I am going to remove the carbine length buffer (etc.) and replace with an adjustable rifle length system. I just couldn't get as comfortable behind the .260 as I am behind my 7.62 tOBR that has a Magpul PRS. I also could tell that I've not been behind a rifle for months, it showed in MY performance, not the rifle's. I should have been able to get more out of her, but being rusty didn't help. I had FGGM and Prime .260 ammo.

At the Izaak Walton League range a few miles from the house and at my usual spot.  The people at the range packed up just as I arrived so for a short time I was alone!  I was going to wear the MBT hat, but it was cold, windy and snowing so I had to differ to the armadillo watch cap:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0061-158089.jpg  

Dillo approved:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0062-158090.jpg

I had used the Leupold Zero Point bore site thing but was not sure how close I was due to the front of the TQ brake having ridges.  I shot the first sighters at 50 yards to make sure I was close.  Good thing as I wasn't as close as I had hoped:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0063-158091.jpg

The first rounds, FGGM:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0066-1-158093.jpg

First shots were very promising. The OnTarget adjusts the 50 yards to a true MOA. The top group is the first shots, then two more groups to get my windage :

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/50yd-Sighters1-158261.jpg

I made adjustments and just when I was going out to 100, we had a small snow squall:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0071-158095.jpg

When I went to 100 three more shooters showed up, so the tranquility of shooting alone and being able to check groups was over!  The range is co-located with the pistol range, so every time someone wants to check a target both rifle and pistol have to go cold.  It really is a pain to get in a rhythm only to have someone whining wanting to check their target. [/rant off]

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0074-158096.jpg

I also chrono'd using the Magnetospeed V3 both unsuppressed and suppressed:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0086-158100.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0095-158105.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0089-158101.jpg

I used the TQ to warm up my hands today.  

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0090-158102.jpg

This is what I was referring to about being rusty.  Here's the first group with the Prime.  It started great, but I threw the 3rd round badly.  I think my bipod moved just as I squeezed it off; it could have been so much better!

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/Prime-1-158265.jpg

Same problem with the FGGM, 3rd shot fail!

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/TL-BR-FGGM-158279.jpg

Here's the best FGGM group for the day:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/260-T1-BR-FGGM-158263.jpg

FGGM, with the same center POA, but with the TQ:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/T2-TR-FGGM-158264.jpg

Prime with the TQ (Magnetospeed attached):

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/Prime-TQ-158273.jpg

Interesting are the chrono speeds, I would have thought the TQ would have added (consistently) 30-50FPS:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/260-Chrono-158304.jpg
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Looks like FGGM was out of oomph at a 22" barrel with those tranquilo numbers.  That's discouraging.
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Looks like FGGM was out of oomph at a 22" barrel with those tranquilo numbers.  That's discouraging.
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Maybe a gas gun doesn't like the heavier bullets, 142gr FGMM versus the 130gr Prime.
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He is, I got the e-mail this afternoon.  Aren't you on their mailing list?
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Are you fucking serious


He is, I got the e-mail this afternoon.  Aren't you on their mailing list?


has this worked for anyone? tried this morning and says not a valid code
3/4/2017 12:11:23 PM EDT
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has this worked for anyone? tried this morning and says not a valid code
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You need to order a full case plus one additional box of ammo.  I used it yesterday with no problem.

Buy a CASE+BOX and receive
FREE SHIPPING

Use code: CASE+1

Promotion runs now - Mar 10, 2017
Select a CASE of your favorite PRIME Ammo caliber, add a single box (or more if you'd like) of ANY OTHER caliber, make sure both items are in your cart, enter the code: CASE+1, and receive FREE SHIPPING on your entire order!
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You need to order a full case plus one additional box of ammo.  I used it yesterday with no problem.

Buy a CASE+BOX and receive
FREE SHIPPING

Use code: CASE+1

Promotion runs now - Mar 10, 2017
Select a CASE of your favorite PRIME Ammo caliber, add a single box (or more if you'd like) of ANY OTHER caliber, make sure both items are in your cart, enter the code: CASE+1, and receive FREE SHIPPING on your entire order!
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thanks for the info. i tried to order a case of .260 plus a box of .308 to try out but won't work. i'll try a case + box of the same ammo and see if it works that way.

edit: tried a case of .260 + a single box of same and still says code not valid. even registered and logged in to site. guess it was a little more of a promo than they thought it would be and cancelled it.
3/4/2017 12:34:09 PM EDT
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thanks for the info. i tried to order a case of .260 plus a box of .308 to try out but won't work. i'll try a case + box of the same ammo and see if it works that way.

edit: tried a case of .260 + a single box of same and still says code not valid. even registered and logged in to site. guess it was a little more of a promo than they thought it would be and cancelled it.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:


You need to order a full case plus one additional box of ammo.  I used it yesterday with no problem.

Buy a CASE+BOX and receive
FREE SHIPPING

Use code: CASE+1

Promotion runs now - Mar 10, 2017
Select a CASE of your favorite PRIME Ammo caliber, add a single box (or more if you'd like) of ANY OTHER caliber, make sure both items are in your cart, enter the code: CASE+1, and receive FREE SHIPPING on your entire order!


thanks for the info. i tried to order a case of .260 plus a box of .308 to try out but won't work. i'll try a case + box of the same ammo and see if it works that way.

edit: tried a case of .260 + a single box of same and still says code not valid. even registered and logged in to site. guess it was a little more of a promo than they thought it would be and cancelled it.


I ordered a case of 260 and a box of the 175gr 308 last evening and it worked just fine.

I just did the same on their site and again, it's showing free FedEx home delivery.


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ETA - The correct code is CASE+1, not CASE+BOX, just in case.  
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Quote from ML guys, he has seen this thread but didn't post this info.



If the guys load those 130 Bergers down to 2,450, they'll see tighter groups.
But alas, we want short flight times
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3/4/2017 1:42:59 PM EDT
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Quote from ML guys, he has seen this thread but didn't post this info.



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If the guys load those 130 Bergers down to 2,450, they'll see tighter groups.
But alas, we want short flight times

Maybe we should be buying 6.5 grendels instead.
3/4/2017 1:54:02 PM EDT
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Quote from ML guys, he has seen this thread but didn't post this info.



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If the guys load those 130 Bergers down to 2,450, they'll see tighter groups.
But alas, we want short flight times


Sure he didn't mean them Gerbers?  

Here's the Berger 130gr 260 page, using the start load for H4350 we're pretty close.  



I'm convinced I could have had bug holes with the Prime if I did my part.  They list 2900fps out of a 24" barrel and I was getting 2760fps out of the 22" LaRue.  Add 50fps per inch of barrel and we're just a bit short.

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Brownell's order just arrived:



Lapua brass looks really nice, and annealed too!

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Here are some pictures from cleaning after yesterday's range trip where I fired 75rds.  I have a cheap $20 bore cam and took some pics, but I think I need something with a shorter focal plane so I can get better clarity.

I've got some cleaning to do:

 



75 rounds but while the BCG and bolt were dirty, there was no caked carbon, a toothbrush cleaned it well.



Guess we'll always know where this was made.  



Some pics from the bore cam.







XTRAXN chamber, sorry I couldn't get a sharper picture:



View from the muzzle:



Almost done!



Now I'm done!



I'm going to replace the RAT with a PRS tomorrow so check back and you'll see she's sporting some new treads.  

Now, someone else get out there and do some shootin'!
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Nice, what kind of ammo were you shooting?

ETA: Nevermind, saw your other post, shooting some prime ammo. Wondering if I should grab a case.
3/5/2017 6:54:30 AM EDT
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Ha, you out shot the Gerbers, good job!  What were your impressions of the rifle?  Do you have other LaRue rifles to compare against?
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Ha, you out shot the Gerbers, good job!  What were your impressions of the rifle?  Do you have other LaRue rifles to compare against?
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This is another excellent rifle from LaRue. Compared to the two 18" 7.62 tOBRs and the FDE Heavy that I own the recoil is lighter. It feels like firing one of the 18" tOBRs with the SOCOM 7.62 RC2 attached. My TranQuilo is still in jail after nine months so I have not been able to try the .260 or the FDE Heavy suppressed yet.

I got the NF ATACR 5 x 25 F1 on paper at 50 yards and then moved to 100 yards. The ninth shot was a bullseye so I tried a few groups. These were the first three groups, shots 10 thru 18, with the rifle.  Based on my past experience with these rifles I expect that the groups will tighten up when the barrel is completely broken in.
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This is another excellent rifle from LaRue. Compared to the two 18" 7.62 tOBRs and the FDE Heavy that I own the recoil is lighter. It feels like firing one of the 18" tOBRs with the SOCOM 7.62 RC2 attached. My TranQuilo is still in jail after nine months so I have not been able to try the .260 or the FDE Heavy suppressed yet.

I got the NF ATACR 5 x 25 F1 on paper at 50 yards and then moved to 100 yards. The ninth shot was a bullseye so I tried a few groups. These were the first three groups, shots 10 thru 18, with the rifle.  Based on my past experience with these rifles I expect that the groups will tighten up when the barrel is completely broken in.
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Good point about break-in, I'd also expect to pick up some speed once 200 or so rounds are down the tube.
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Cleaned the mags today, the new mag comes apart just by taking one screw out of the baseplate.  These are very sturdy and well made, but pretty dirty after a day on the range.  







Looks like the brass was hammering the deflector:



I decided to move to a PRS so I removed the carbine tube and buffer and replaced them with the PRS, which uses the A2 buffer tube:



Added a JP Silent Capture buffer:



Finished rifle in FDE:



I need to get back to the range to re-zero with the Prime since it's a much lighter bullet and probably closer to what I'll be routinely shooting.  Today is guest day at the range so it's always "sporty." I also have to travel again to GA and Japan, so I need you guys to keep the thread going with your range reports, loads, etc.
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So Awesome!!!
3/5/2017 1:46:17 PM EDT
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Some chamber and barrel shots using the bore scope with a tweak to the lighting.



A better view of the XTRAXN chamber:



Barrel rifling from the chamber:



View from the muzzle:



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Nice bore shots.

I agree with your earlier post about needing a rifle length butt stock. I have a Magpul PRS on one of my tOBRs and find it easier for precision rifle shooting than an adjustable carbine stock. I think I will try the new PRS that fits on carbine buffer tubes. That way I can use it on multiple rifles.
3/5/2017 2:28:02 PM EDT
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Nice bore shots.

I agree with your earlier post about needing a rifle length butt stock. I have a Magpul PRS on one of my tOBRs and find it easier for precision rifle shooting than an adjustable carbine stock. I think I will try the new PRS that fits on carbine buffer tubes. That way I can use it on multiple rifles.
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I'd be interested on your thoughts once you have a chance to test it.  I have a PRS on my 7.62 and prefer it, and I think it helps the recoil pulse a bit. I found the FDE one in the parts bin so it went on the .260; I didn't even know I had it!

ETA - You were shooing pretty well with the carbine system, I can't wait to see bug holes when you add the PRS!
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Some pictures of the brass.

Prime on the left and the FGMM on the right:



Only visible dings were on two of the FGMM cases, all others were fine:



Primers are showing minimal flow but there are no signs of any overpressure.  The flow is probably a function of the size of the firing pin hole:





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I'd be interested on your thoughts once you have a chance to test it.  I have a PRS on my 7.62 and prefer it, and I think it helps the recoil pulse a bit. I found the FDE one in the parts bin so it went on the .260; I didn't even know I had it!

ETA - You were shooing pretty well with the carbine system, I can't wait to see bug holes when you add the PRS!
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Christmas came early! I love it when that happens.

Thank you sir. The PRS will definitely help this old and less flexible body get set behind the weapon. I no longer have to wait to get to the chow hall for breakfast. I have snap, crackle and pop as soon as I roll out of the rack each morning.
3/5/2017 2:43:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fr8dog:


Christmas came early! I love it when that happens.

Thank you sir. The PRS will definitely help this old and less flexible body get set behind the weapon. I no longer have to wait to get to the chow hall for breakfast. I have snap, crackle and pop as soon as I roll out of the rack each morning.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:


I'd be interested on your thoughts once you have a chance to test it.  I have a PRS on my 7.62 and prefer it, and I think it helps the recoil pulse a bit. I found the FDE one in the parts bin so it went on the .260; I didn't even know I had it!

ETA - You were shooing pretty well with the carbine system, I can't wait to see bug holes when you add the PRS!


Christmas came early! I love it when that happens.

Thank you sir. The PRS will definitely help this old and less flexible body get set behind the weapon. I no longer have to wait to get to the chow hall for breakfast. I have snap, crackle and pop as soon as I roll out of the rack each morning.


Sir, ha, I was enlisted and the old cliché is I worked for a living!  I'll be 60 this year so anything that makes life easier, I'm in!
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3/5/2017 3:29:54 PM EDT
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Sir, ha, I was enlisted and the old cliché is I worked for a living!  I'll be 60 this year so anything that makes life easier, I'm in!
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Lol, like my father and grandfathers I was a Sargent and Southern. I say sir to everyone. I went to Flight school in the Navy after I left the Army. My instructors gave me grief for calling them sir as we were all JOs.
3/5/2017 8:00:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Cleaned the mags today, the new mag comes apart just by taking one screw out of the baseplate.  These are very sturdy and well made, but pretty dirty after a day on the range.  

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0144-159006.jpg

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Looks like the brass was hammering the deflector:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0167--2--159284.jpg

I decided to move to a PRS so I removed the carbine tube and buffer and replaced them with the PRS, which uses the A2 buffer tube:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0161-159277.jpg

Added a JP Silent Capture buffer:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0160-159278.jpg

Finished rifle in FDE:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0192--2--159287.jpg

I need to get back to the range to re-zero with the Prime since it's a much lighter bullet and probably closer to what I'll be routinely shooting.  Today is guest day at the range so it's always "sporty." I also have to travel again to GA and Japan, so I need you guys to keep the thread going with your range reports, loads, etc.
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Hi, looking forward to updates with the JP silent capture setup ... Looking to do a similar setup and wondered if the silent capture spring would cause any issues with the Larue suppressed.  Great pics!
3/5/2017 8:21:09 PM EDT
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Hi, looking forward to updates with the JP silent capture setup ... Looking to do a similar setup and wondered if the silent capture spring would cause any issues with the Larue suppressed.  Great pics!
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The JP has three different springs, each progressively stiffer.  I used the regular tension spring to start and will see how it performs, albeit, it could be more than a week before I can get back to the range.
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The JP has three different springs, each progressively stiffer.  I used the regular tension spring to start and will see how it performs, albeit, it could be more than a week before I can get back to the range.
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Thanks, will keep an eye out!
3/5/2017 9:26:27 PM EDT
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The JP has three different springs, each progressively stiffer.  I used the regular tension spring to start and will see how it performs, albeit, it could be more than a week before I can get back to the range.
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Forgot to ask, did you go with the H2 version?
3/6/2017 7:58:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TiminNC:


Forgot to ask, did you go with the H2 version?
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The JP has three different springs, each progressively stiffer.  I used the regular tension spring to start and will see how it performs, albeit, it could be more than a week before I can get back to the range.


Forgot to ask, did you go with the H2 version?


No, since I was moving to the PRS with the A2 length buffer tube, the rifle isn't a SBR and it has the ability to switch from suppressed to unsuppressed, I thought the normal weight would work.  If not, I still have two different "heavier" springs to test before I'd have to move heavier.  YMMV if you stay with the carbine length buffer system and especially considering Mark ships these with the H2.
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3/6/2017 8:47:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Some pictures of the brass.

Prime on the left and the FGGM on the right:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0208-159427.jpg

Only visible dings were on two of the FGGM cases, all others were fine:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0213-1-159426.jpg

Primers are cratered but there are no signs of any overpressure.  Probably a function of the size of the firing pin hole:

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Looks like significantly more blow by on the Fed, be interesting to see if the trim length is different between the two and what they look in a gauge.

ETA, especially with the MV differences you saw.
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Looks like significantly more blow by on the Fed, be interesting to see if the trim length is different between the two and what they look in a gauge.

ETA, especially with the MV differences you saw.
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Originally Posted By Defender3:
Some pictures of the brass.

Prime on the left and the FGGM on the right:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0208-159427.jpg

Only visible dings were on two of the FGGM cases, all others were fine:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0213-1-159426.jpg

Primers are cratered but there are no signs of any overpressure.  Probably a function of the size of the firing pin hole:

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0214-159428.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0223-159430.jpg

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52736/DSC-0217-159429.jpg


Looks like significantly more blow by on the Fed, be interesting to see if the trim length is different between the two and what they look in a gauge.

ETA, especially with the MV differences you saw.


I may not be able to do that until I get back from travel.  However, all the rounds were very neatly piled at the 1-2 o'clock and about five feet from the rifle (I should have taken a picture).  Given the wear on the deflector, I suspect they were hitting it hard and bouncing to their final resting position.

ETA - I fired the rifle with no issues using the unsuppressed setting.  I fired using the suppressed setting but with no suppressor. The rifle would not fully cycle on the unsuppressed setting with no suppressor, it would eject the fired round and strip the next round, but it would not fully engage the rim and the bolt over-rode the cartridge and caused a failure to feed.  I fired the rifle with a suppressor and on the suppressed setting with no issues.
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3/6/2017 12:02:51 PM EDT
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Thank you for the heads up on the Prime free shipping . . . Order placed

For what it's worth, my latest ABM purchase has Lapua brass, where my previous purchase was Peterson brass.  However, ABM is definitely at a premium price compared to Prime.
3/6/2017 3:47:09 PM EDT
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FDE Magpul PRS Gen 3 inbound. Brownells had them marked down and free shipping on orders over $99.

Due to free shipping not being FedEx an updated range report for the .260 with the PRS installed will probably be delayed until the weekend after next.

Plus I have to take a checkride on Friday and will not get home until o dark 30 Saturday morning.

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