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5/13/2013 7:53:28 AM EDT
I could use some help identifying this snake. It was killed in the FT Worth area if that helps any.




5/13/2013 8:06:45 AM EDT
[#1]
Water snake. Non venomous. Google Nerodia for more info.


http://www.austinreptileservice.net/guide.html

Good info here too.
5/13/2013 8:10:36 AM EDT
[#2]
Frog eater.
5/13/2013 8:54:13 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Water snake. Non venomous. Google Nerodia for more info.


http://www.austinreptileservice.net/guide.html

Good info here too.


I think you nailed it.
5/13/2013 9:35:19 AM EDT
[#4]
Always called them yellow bellied water snakes...harmless except they can scare the crap out of you.
5/13/2013 10:03:39 AM EDT
[#5]
Question:

Does the Watersnake have a round body or a raised dorsal area like the Cottonmouth?
5/13/2013 12:30:55 PM EDT
[#6]
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Question:

Does the Watersnake have a round body or a raised dorsal area like the Cottonmouth?


Both have round dorsal bodies, and both in defensive mode can start to flatten out giving raised dorsal appearance.

5/13/2013 1:35:38 PM EDT
[#7]
See what happens to a snake that try to act like a thug.
5/13/2013 3:01:15 PM EDT
[#8]
Are the pupils round or elliptical?
5/13/2013 3:21:07 PM EDT
[#9]
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Are the pupils round or elliptical?



Who the hell is going to get close enough to look one in the eyes?
5/13/2013 5:25:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
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Are the pupils round or elliptical?



Who the hell is going to get close enough to look one in the eyes?


If your close enough to tell, your too close.

I'm NOT trying to be a smart ass or confrontational, but if you can't tell if a snake is venomous from 20' away, don't mess with with.

Ignore it, and walk past it, and come back 2 minutes later and I can promise you the snake will be gone. They hate contact with humans as much as most humans hate coming in contact with them.
5/13/2013 5:30:51 PM EDT
[#11]
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Who the hell is going to get close enough to look one in the eyes?


Quoted:
I could use some help identifying this snake. It was killed in the FT Worth area if that helps any.
5/13/2013 7:17:43 PM EDT
[#12]
This guy was behind me while I was bank fishing Bachman Lake under Lemmon Ave

5/13/2013 7:18:51 PM EDT
[#13]
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This guy was behind me while I was bank fishing Bachman Lake under Lemmon Ave

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j101/Gunpics/IMAG0065_zpsce131adb.jpg


Non venomous water snake as well.
5/13/2013 7:41:39 PM EDT
[#14]
I didn't kill it.  I didn't even know it was there until I backed away from the edge after setting the hook on a bass.  Fucker struck me in back of the right leg.  I didn't think it was dark enough to be a moccasin.  Still I checked the area.
5/13/2013 7:46:31 PM EDT
[#15]
They are mean. I am not one of those snake guys that gets all bitchy whenever someone kills a snake. Especially if it bites you, lol.

They so have a nasty bite. If it broke skin wash with soap and warm  water and flush bite area with water.

5/13/2013 7:54:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Naw, it didn't break skin.  I was wearing jeans.  I always wear jeans when I bank fish, and I always wear boots.  Unless I decide to walk out into the water.
5/14/2013 8:12:31 AM EDT
[#17]
I came across this guy and his buddy while I stopped an ATV, basically on top of them. I'm 99 % sure they were Cottonmouths (big fat snake, triangle head, bumpy scale), but I shot them and boogied. Scared the hell out of me.

5/14/2013 8:14:08 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
I came across this guy and his buddy while I stopped an ATV, basically on top of them. I'm 99 % sure they were Cottonmouths (big fat snake, triangle head, bumpy scale), but I shot them and boogied. Scared the hell out of me.

<a href="http://s166.photobucket.com/user/atxtj/media/image-2_zpsb8330599.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u82/atxtj/image-2_zpsb8330599.jpg</a>


Yes, that is a cottonmouth.
5/14/2013 8:25:17 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I came across this guy and his buddy while I stopped an ATV, basically on top of them. I'm 99 % sure they were Cottonmouths (big fat snake, triangle head, bumpy scale), but I shot them and boogied. Scared the hell out of me.

<a href="http://s166.photobucket.com/user/atxtj/media/image-2_zpsb8330599.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u82/atxtj/image-2_zpsb8330599.jpg</a>


Yes, that is a cottonmouth.


I'd be quite content to not be surprised by them ever again.
5/14/2013 9:17:12 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
I came across this guy and his buddy while I stopped an ATV, basically on top of them. I'm 99 % sure they were Cottonmouths (big fat snake, triangle head, bumpy scale), but I shot them and boogied. Scared the hell out of me.

<a href="http://s166.photobucket.com/user/atxtj/media/image-2_zpsb8330599.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u82/atxtj/image-2_zpsb8330599.jpg</a>


Yep. Cottonmouth
5/14/2013 9:26:22 AM EDT
[#21]
I hate Cottonmouth's. When I was a kid there was a pond behind my friends house that had a big Oak tree growing into the water. One year it got infested with Cottonmouths and we must have killed 100 of them at least.
5/14/2013 5:48:09 PM EDT
[#22]
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I hate Cottonmouth's. When I was a kid there was a pond behind my friends house that had a big Oak tree growing into the water. One year it got infested with Cottonmouths and we must have killed 100 of them at least.


Sounds like Curls pond down the street from where I grew up in the early seventies in E Ft Worth
5/14/2013 6:27:42 PM EDT
[#23]
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I hate Cottonmouth's. When I was a kid there was a pond behind my friends house that had a big Oak tree growing into the water. One year it got infested with Cottonmouths and we must have killed 100 of them at least.


Sounds like Curls pond down the street from where I grew up in the early seventies in E Ft Worth


It also sounds like some of the small lakes at the LBJ Grasslands. I get nervous up there every spring.
5/14/2013 11:58:06 PM EDT
[#24]
Caddo Lake in East Texas is like that too. I always wear snake boots there.

We have almost zero water moccasins around Canyon Lake, but sometimes a rattler or a copperhead. I don't mind them, they keep away the rodents.

I do keep corn snakes at the house over here. The are rescue snakes from a friend who couldn't keep them.
5/15/2013 5:25:57 AM EDT
[#25]
Brushy Creek park on Parmer in the Cedar Park/Austin border has a ton of Cottonmouth snakes there.  Kayaking one evening, we ran across seven large ones in less than a half hour.
5/15/2013 12:35:22 PM EDT
[#26]
Jumper and Loper tied into a cottonmouth yesterday, and from the looks of things, lost..  Both had swelled up heads and necks and didn't act like they felt really well.  Most of the other dags have learned to stay clear of them, except these 2.
5/15/2013 3:32:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Jumper and Loper tied into a cottonmouth yesterday, and from the looks of things, lost..  Both had swelled up heads and necks and didn't act like they felt really well.  Most of the other dags have learned to stay clear of them, except these 2.


We're worried about that with our dogs. Our one dog wants to be friends with everything (skunks are his favorite) and our other one rides the short bus. How bad are cotton mouth bites for dags?

5/15/2013 4:01:55 PM EDT
[#28]
Over the years, I've seen a lot of dags bitten by cottonmouths.  Mine fall into the medium size dag category.  They usually get nailed in the mouth or neck area.  They then swell up, and if you ask them, they will tell you they feel like shit.  The swelling usually lasts about 2-3 days.  It goes down considerably between day 1 and 2.  You have to remember dags are a lot tougher than us.  I have one old female who got bitten quite a few times before learning.  I don't think she was a slow learner, I think she just had a bad memory.  She used to show up when I got home several times a year looking like she was chewing a plug of tobacco.  

Jumper looks a lot better today.  The swelling on her nose and jaw is almost gone.  She still has a swelled up neck, but it's a lot smaller than yesterday.  She feels fine.  Loper was hunting in a pasture I cut yesterday, so I haven't taken a good look at her.  She must be fine, because she's out there hunting rats and mice.
5/16/2013 5:31:40 AM EDT
[#29]
My GSD got bitten on the nose last year and had a couple of nice oozing holes in his nose. They only thing I can think that got him right around my house is a copperhead. I could tell for a couple of days that he was feeling the affects from it. I just kept him dozed up on benadryl and he pulled through the ordeal fine.
5/16/2013 1:39:49 PM EDT
[#30]
I've been wondering if the snakebite vaccines for dags are worth it? Thought about getting it with the last rabies shot I go mine, but decided not to at the last minute.
5/16/2013 1:54:13 PM EDT
[#31]
If I lived in an area that was  lousy with rattle snakes, I'd probably do it, but in southeast Texas, Nope.