Posted: 4/23/2013 8:27:23 AM EDT
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My FFL has told me that AR15 lower receivers must be transferred as long gun and can't be marked as other firearm (receiver). Reasoning provided is that selecting other firearm can mean I can build this into a pistol and it requires 48 hour wait and extra fees. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. Is there any documentation I can provide to the FFL indicating how he should correctly do this transfer? I found the following
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My FFL has told me that AR15 lower receivers must be transferred as long gun and can't be marked as other firearm (receiver). Reasoning provided is that selecting other firearm can mean I can build this into a pistol and it requires 48 hour wait and extra fees. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. Is there any documentation I can provide to the FFL indicating how he should correctly do this transfer? I found the following http://www.atf.gov/files/press/releases/2009/07/070709-openletter-ffl-gca.pdf Dam Road Gun Shop??? They seem to be the usual suspect with this kind of thing... 
That open letter tells them everything they need to know including that they are doing things absolutely incorrectly... 
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My FFL has told me that AR15 lower receivers must be transferred as long gun and can't be marked as other firearm (receiver). Reasoning provided is that selecting other firearm can mean I can build this into a pistol and it requires 48 hour wait and extra fees. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. Is there any documentation I can provide to the FFL indicating how he should correctly do this transfer? I found the following http://www.atf.gov/files/press/releases/2009/07/070709-openletter-ffl-gca.pdf Dam Road Gun Shop??? They seem to be the usual suspect with this kind of thing...
That open letter tells them everything they need to know including that they are doing things absolutely incorrectly... To the op. If it is Dam road. Tell them they are full of shit. I am an ffl also. "Other" is the way receivers should be transfered. |
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My FFL has told me that AR15 lower receivers must be transferred as long gun and can't be marked as other firearm (receiver). Reasoning provided is that selecting other firearm can mean I can build this into a pistol and it requires 48 hour wait and extra fees. I'm pretty sure this is wrong. Is there any documentation I can provide to the FFL indicating how he should correctly do this transfer? I found the following http://www.atf.gov/files/press/releases/2009/07/070709-openletter-ffl-gca.pdf Dam Road Gun Shop??? They seem to be the usual suspect with this kind of thing...
That open letter tells them everything they need to know including that they are doing things absolutely incorrectly... To the op. If it is Dam road. Tell them they are full of shit. I am an ffl also. "Other" is the way receivers should be transfered. as well as those pistol gripped Mossberg shotguns. |
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Nope. It's a different dealer. I'm probably going to call the ATF tomorrow for clarification and a contact person they can reach out to with questions. For any FFL with a 4th grade reading level, that letter you linked to IS the clarification for them. There is no gray area. The direction is crystal clear. You are wasting your time by calling the ATF. Any FFL who is so ignorant that they will not read the letter and follow the directions is never going to call the ATF with questions.
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Nope. It's a different dealer. I'm probably going to call the ATF tomorrow for clarification and a contact person they can reach out to with questions. For any FFL with a 4th grade reading level, that letter you linked to IS the clarification for them. There is no gray area. The direction is crystal clear. You are wasting your time by calling the ATF. Any FFL who is so ignorant that they will not read the letter and follow the directions is never going to call the ATF with questions. Agreed. It is an Other. That is VERY CLEAR. I really don't think a call to the ATF is going to accomplish very much. |
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Nope. It's a different dealer. I'm probably going to call the ATF tomorrow for clarification and a contact person they can reach out to with questions. For any FFL with a 4th grade reading level, that letter you linked to IS the clarification for them. There is no gray area. The direction is crystal clear. You are wasting your time by calling the ATF. Any FFL who is so ignorant that they will not read the letter and follow the directions is never going to call the ATF with questions. Agreed. It is an Other. That is VERY CLEAR. I really don't think a call to the ATF is going to accomplish very much. except to waste your time, find an FFL who knows his business and give them your money. |
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Nope. It's a different dealer. I'm probably going to call the ATF tomorrow for clarification and a contact person they can reach out to with questions. For any FFL with a 4th grade reading level, that letter you linked to IS the clarification for them. There is no gray area. The direction is crystal clear. You are wasting your time by calling the ATF. Any FFL who is so ignorant that they will not read the letter and follow the directions is never going to call the ATF with questions. Agreed. It is an Other. That is VERY CLEAR. I really don't think a call to the ATF is going to accomplish very much. except to waste your time, find an FFL who knows his business and give them your money. Yup. I'm pretty much there. I had to pay ahead for this transfer as they won't provide an FFL without paying for the transfer before hand. The lowers are arriving tomorrow. I'll update on how it goes. |
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Nope. It's a different dealer. I'm probably going to call the ATF tomorrow for clarification and a contact person they can reach out to with questions. For any FFL with a 4th grade reading level, that letter you linked to IS the clarification for them. There is no gray area. The direction is crystal clear. You are wasting your time by calling the ATF. Any FFL who is so ignorant that they will not read the letter and follow the directions is never going to call the ATF with questions. Agreed. It is an Other. That is VERY CLEAR. I really don't think a call to the ATF is going to accomplish very much. except to waste your time, find an FFL who knows his business and give them your money. Yup. I'm pretty much there. I had to pay ahead for this transfer as they won't provide an FFL without paying for the transfer before hand. The lowers are arriving tomorrow. I'll update on how it goes. You had to prepay for a transfer? That in and of itself seems pretty strange. I have never heard of anyone pre charging for a transfer. What do they have to gain by pre charging? |
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The last time (a few years ago) I was at the Ammo Box in Sun Prairie they were requiring a guy to pay $50 before they gave him a copy of the FFL to send to the seller. Good FFLs like the one at a certain NAPA Auto Parts and Firearms will email you one to pass along to the requesting FFL no sweat. That and they only charge $15/rifle or other, $10 each additional at the time of pickup. That and putting up a certain "buy a shotgun" picture is why he is the best FFL ever 
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