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8/23/2007 10:40:53 AM EDT
I have an external Maxtor HD that makes a funny noise.. and wont work anymore...it is the swing arm thing with the little magnets that binds up in place... IF I take the actual Hard Disk and put it in another functioning maxtor HD...Will there be any chance I will be able to recover the information of the old hard drive??

I would like to know if it will be worth the $50 or so to buy a another similiar model. My HD is 80GB.

8/23/2007 11:02:07 AM EDT
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I have an external Maxtor HD that makes a funny noise.. and wont work anymore...it is the swing arm thing with the little magnets that binds up in place... IF I take the actual Hard Disk and put it in another functioning maxtor HD...Will there be any chance I will be able to recover the information of the old hard drive??

I would like to know if it will be worth the $50 or so to buy a another similiar model. My HD is 80GB.



If it is making those kind of noises...  That particular HD is probably toast.  However, replacing the drive itself shouldn't be a problem.
8/23/2007 5:38:39 PM EDT
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I think he is proposing removing the spindles and trying to use the heads from a similar drive.  Have you exhausted all software type utilities and determined it's not a bad sector?  

Check the ribbon connectors on the outside of the drive.  I had an Ipod Failure due to poor connections on a ribbon cable.  Reseated each cable and it works like a champ.

Your odds of actually acomplishing this are slim.  It used to be commonplace with older drives but I'm doubtful it can be done with a newer model.


8/23/2007 7:56:38 PM EDT
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If you are already to the point where you have dis-assembled it, its probably totally toast.

Moving the platters to another drive will likely not help, each drive is unique and has a map of the bad sectors stored in it (possibly on the disk, but also possibly in flash on the the drive's circuit board).

Then again, if the data is important you may be able to send it to a drive recovery service and have them recover it.

8/23/2007 8:18:41 PM EDT
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If you are already to the point where you have dis-assembled it, its probably totally toast.

Moving the platters to another drive will likely not help, each drive is unique and has a map of the bad sectors stored in it (possibly on the disk, but also possibly in flash on the the drive's circuit board).

Then again, if the data is important you may be able to send it to a drive recovery service and have them recover it.



+1

and that last option is possible, but can be pricy.  They clean room the drive and do some voo doo to pull the data.
8/23/2007 8:22:05 PM EDT
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If you are already to the point where you have dis-assembled it, its probably totally toast.

Moving the platters to another drive will likely not help, each drive is unique and has a map of the bad sectors stored in it (possibly on the disk, but also possibly in flash on the the drive's circuit board).

Then again, if the data is important you may be able to send it to a drive recovery service and have them recover it.



+1

and that last option is possible, but can be pricy.  They clean room the drive and do some voo doo to pull the data.


Had it done about 10 years ago on a Maxtor. Cost 175.

I did learn BACKUP> BACKUP> BACKUP
.


Never have had a Maxtor since.
8/23/2007 8:54:30 PM EDT
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I have an external Maxtor HD...


There's your problem right there!  

I had two Maxtors go tits up on me at virtually the same time(*).  I think they're still out in the garage somewhere.  One might be salvageable, but I really don't care.  I'll never have another one.

Western Digital for me.

* The fact that I was running the Microsoft Virus (a.k.a. WindowsME) at the time may have had something to do with it, but I kinda doubt it.
8/23/2007 11:41:52 PM EDT
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and that last option is possible, but can be  is un-Godly pricy.  They clean room the drive and do some voo doo to pull the data.


Fixed.

The Data Recovery Room's Rates.  They're in Tukwila.
8/24/2007 12:28:48 AM EDT
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I have an external Maxtor HD that makes a funny noise.. and wont work anymore...it is the swing arm thing with the little magnets that binds up in place... IF I take the actual Hard Disk and put it in another functioning maxtor HD...Will there be any chance I will be able to recover the information of the old hard drive??

I would like to know if it will be worth the $50 or so to buy a another similiar model. My HD is 80GB.


0% chance if you take the platters out and try to put them in a different HD.

One trick that as worked for a couple friends of mine.  Freezing your hard drive.


Here's a last-gasp trick for copying data from a drive that won't read or spin: Place the disk in a Ziploc freezer bag and pop it into the freezer for an hour. Seriously. Cooling the disk can subtly change the geometry of the head and platters, enabling the drive to pick up data for a brief period of time. Make sure you have a new hard disk installed, as well as mirroring software like Norton Ghost ready to make a one-shot transfer of the old disk's contents.
8/24/2007 5:23:26 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I have an external Maxtor HD that makes a funny noise.. and wont work anymore...it is the swing arm thing with the little magnets that binds up in place... IF I take the actual Hard Disk and put it in another functioning maxtor HD...Will there be any chance I will be able to recover the information of the old hard drive??

I would like to know if it will be worth the $50 or so to buy a another similiar model. My HD is 80GB.


0% chance if you take the platters out and try to put them in a different HD.

One trick that as worked for a couple friends of mine.  Freezing your hard drive.


Here's a last-gasp trick for copying data from a drive that won't read or spin: Place the disk in a Ziploc freezer bag and pop it into the freezer for an hour. Seriously. Cooling the disk can subtly change the geometry of the head and platters, enabling the drive to pick up data for a brief period of time. Make sure you have a new hard disk installed, as well as mirroring software like Norton Ghost ready to make a one-shot transfer of the old disk's contents.


Ok, now I've heard that from a couple of sources.  Worth a try!  I know that if you're having issues with your XBox that freezing it can "fix" it temporarrily.
8/24/2007 6:04:43 AM EDT
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Do I just put the actual metal disk only without all the other stuff correct?....I guess its worth a shot.
8/24/2007 6:19:38 AM EDT
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Do I just put the actual metal disk only without all the other stuff correct?....I guess its worth a shot.


Tell me you haven't taken the drive apart down to the platters.  do NOT take the drive apart.

Just put the whole unit in the freezer for about 20-30 minutes.
8/24/2007 6:54:44 AM EDT
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I meant with the circuit board that it is plugged into or just the metal Drive body.....
8/24/2007 7:12:04 AM EDT
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I meant with the circuit board that it is plugged into or just the metal Drive body.....


Take the whole external drive unit, and put it in the freezer.
8/24/2007 8:24:31 AM EDT
[#14]
I tried it and it does the same thing, oh well, I only lost a bunch of pictures of guns, some family pictures, and my Price lists for my ARs, that were most important...The fun begins to inventory $10k worth of ARs and parts  Thanks for the help though.
8/24/2007 11:39:31 AM EDT
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I tried it and it does the same thing, oh well, I only lost a bunch of pictures of guns, some family pictures, and my Price lists for my ARs, that were most important...The fun begins to inventory $10k worth of ARs and parts  Thanks for the help though.


You put the entire drive into a sealed ziploc baggie (condensation from unsealed baggie = t3h suck) for about an hour?  If that doesnt work and you dont want to spend the $$$$$$$$$$ money to have data extracted by a professional, then you can now take a torx wrench and take off the top cover off the drive*, give the inside most circle a light *ting* of the wrench head and put the cover back on and see if that works for a bit.  I give that a 5% chance to work for a little bit.

*Taking the cover off in any environment other than a perfect "clean room" will let in tons of dust and grit that WILL destroy the drive ASAP. Please dont ever do that unless you have ^no^ other option.
8/24/2007 12:11:45 PM EDT
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I knew the drive was a goner from the first sound.......it does a beep sequence and them a scratching noise - Oh, well, thanks anyway for the tips    I will miss the  family pictures the most.