Posted: 5/2/2011 12:11:11 PM EDT
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how many shoot long range ?
i just joined a new club & the range is 25yds ,50,100. what is the drop rate of a 9mm & a 40 at 50yds? problaly wont hit but i sure would like to try . |
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Quoted: how many shoot long range ? i just joined a new club & the range is 25yds ,50,100. what is the drop rate of a 9mm & a 40 at 50yds? problaly wont hit but i sure would like to try . I can't comment on your exact ballistics without a brand of ammo and barrel length/twist. However, the drop of milsurp 9mm out of my Beretta carbine 16" barrel was 11.25" at 100. Out of a glock, assuming milsurp ball ammo, probably 4-5" is my guess at 50 meters. (again, just a guesstimate) Hitting things at that distance is on you though! Its hard past 50 meters for sure. Setup a torso target, aim for the head, you will probably be on paper in the torso if your technique is good. |
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I've drilled a steel 12x12 target at 100 yards. It doesn't really take much hold over to get man sized hits at 100.. in fact I'm pretty sure I put the top of the front sight at the top of the steel target and was making hits with 115gr ball.
100 yard practice isn't a bad idea, but knowing where your hand gun will hit at 50 yards and practicing at 50 yards is valuable I think. |
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what is the drop rate of a 9mm & a 40 at 50yds? It's propably not as much as you might think. As mentioned before, setup a torso-type target and aim for the head. If you do your part you’ll be on paper at 50 yards. From there you can determine what kind of drop you get with your ammo/pistol combo. Remember, when shooting pistols you need perfect sight alignment, trigger squeeze, and follow-through to ensure repeatable hits on target at extended ranges. Take your time and with a little bit of practice you may even surprise yourself. I mostly train inside 15yds. with pistols, but I think it’s a good idea to know where the bullets go at farther distances. |
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I saw a random piece of target-board laying on the 100yd berm last weekend while I was out with my G19. Purely for shits-n-giggles, I tried to hit it. After the first shot into the dirt, it was fairly easy to compensate and hit, or come to close to hitting, that 2' piece of board. Nothing to brag about, but it was fun.
I didn't pay attention to the actual amount of bullet-drop since I was just messing around. But I'll say that it was less than I was expecting. Check out Hickok45's YouTube vids. He rings steel at 230 yards with his Glocks pretty consistently. It's crazy. |
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I always have 1/2 sized IPSC steel targets set up between 25 and 65 yards. At least once every session I shoot at them between 85 and 100 yards. Once you get use to shooting a further ranges (for a handgun) it's not that hard. It's just concentration on that front sight post and a good pull of the trigger. It's very satisfying to hear the steel clang at those further distances! |
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We have shale berms at my range so misses are easy to spot. I've hit throwing clays at 100 offhand. First time it took me 11 rounds, second time I was lucky as all hell and got it on the first try, don't think that will happen again for a while though. Pistol was a G19 4th gen with a trigger disconnect and WWB. Had friends there for proof but no videos. I recall seeing Miculek or someone similiar shoot out much past that.
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| The secret to longer range handgun shooting is learning how much front sight to raise above the rear sight for a given range. Once you get the right sight picture using a six o'clock hold on the target you would be surprised at the shots you can make. I was picking off soda cans at 100 yards with a 4" barrel .38 Special much to the amazement of the rifle shooters at the line. |
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Quoted: The secret to longer range handgun shooting is learning how much front sight to raise above the rear sight for a given range. Once you get the right sight picture using a six o'clock hold on the target you would be surprised at the shots you can make. I was picking off soda cans at 100 yards with a 4" barrel .38 Special much to the amazement of the rifle shooters at the line. That's actually part of the appeal. I shoot standing, unsupported, two handed at our 200 yd steel with my G20L and the seated, bagged, and scoped rifle shooters stop and stare when I 'ring the steel'. I've had guys walk over and ask how I did it. Some, when they see its a Glock rather than some custom 1911, just turn and walk away shaking their heads. I had one fellow with a 24x power scoped 308 AR stand and stand up and fire off a string. When he missed at least his first 10 shots, he packed up and went home. Its not about having the most tricked out weapon, its about the basics, sight alignment, trigger squeeze, and breath control. |
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Check out Hickok45's YouTube vids. He rings steel at 230 yards with his Glocks pretty consistently. It's crazy. i have seen his videos. he's good. he gets regular hits on a steel plate at 230yds. with a Glock 23... he even does it with rifled slugs out of a shotgun too. |
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how many shoot long range ? i just joined a new club & the range is 25yds ,50,100. what is the drop rate of a 9mm & a 40 at 50yds? problaly wont hit but i sure would like to try . I can't comment on your exact ballistics without a brand of ammo and barrel length/twist. However, the drop of milsurp 9mm out of my Beretta carbine 16" barrel was 11.25" at 100. Out of a glock, assuming milsurp ball ammo, probably 4-5" is my guess at 50 meters. (again, just a guesstimate) Hitting things at that distance is on you though! Its hard past 50 meters for sure. Setup a torso target, aim for the head, you will probably be on paper in the torso if your technique is good. 4-5" is about right. I was playing with the PDT training target at 50 yards over the weekend and of 50 rounds from my G17, 38 were on the upper chest and I pulled maybe 12 to the left. Definitely try it, you might be surpirsed. Also shooting from rollover prone is good priactice too. |