Posted: 4/19/2009 11:47:02 AM EDT
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So I'm getting the itch for a 1911 after being on the Glock side of things for a while. My last outing with a 1911 was with an old customized SA MilSpec that I'd shot side-by-side with a friends TRP.
It took the taste outta my mouth. His stinking gun, while costing over twice as much, shot like a laser beam. I want that level of mechanical accuracy in a pistol. Here's my question - Between a Loaded, MC Operator, & full blown TRP, how great will the level of accuracy differ between them? I'm not so much concerned about any of the other details such as barrel type, checkering, light rail, etc, I'm just interested in the accuracy. Is there anything that goes into a TRP that makes it significantly more accurate than a loaded? |
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So I'm getting the itch for a 1911 after being on the Glock side of things for a while. My last outing with a 1911 was with an old customized SA MilSpec that I'd shot side-by-side with a friends TRP. It took the taste outta my mouth. His stinking gun, while costing over twice as much, shot like a laser beam. I want that level of mechanical accuracy in a pistol. Here's my question - Between a Loaded, MC Operator, & full blown TRP, how great will the level of accuracy differ between them? I'm not so much concerned about any of the other details such as barrel type, checkering, light rail, etc, I'm just interested in the accuracy. Is there anything that goes into a TRP that makes it significantly more accurate than a loaded? The biggest difference will be the jump from the Loaded to the MC, not so much difference between the MC and the TRP. Though, the difference between all 3 will be pretty minute. If you have the funds, no reason to NOT get the TRP. |
| I think that both the Loaded and the TRP will be more accurate than most people can shoot, but the TRP has a lot more done to it than the Loaded. Mostly cosmetic with the magwell and the checkering. That said the TRP also has things like a match barrel and bushing as well as the slide tightened to the frame, etc. Check our SA's website and visit the custom order sheet. It will list the TRP as an upgrade for a 1911 and will list all the details involved. You can then compare that to the Loaded and see what the differences are. |
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So I'm getting the itch for a 1911 after being on the Glock side of things for a while. My last outing with a 1911 was with an old customized SA MilSpec that I'd shot side-by-side with a friends TRP. It took the taste outta my mouth. His stinking gun, while costing over twice as much, shot like a laser beam. I want that level of mechanical accuracy in a pistol. Here's my question - Between a Loaded, MC Operator, & full blown TRP, how great will the level of accuracy differ between them? I'm not so much concerned about any of the other details such as barrel type, checkering, light rail, etc, I'm just interested in the accuracy. Is there anything that goes into a TRP that makes it significantly more accurate than a loaded? The biggest difference will be the jump from the Loaded to the MC, not so much difference between the MC and the TRP. I agree if you have the funds get a TRP. I"ve had a loaded for a few years and I'm itching for TRP. Though, the difference between all 3 will be pretty minute. If you have the funds, no reason to NOT get the TRP. |
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So I'm getting the itch for a 1911 after being on the Glock side of things for a while. My last outing with a 1911 was with an old customized SA MilSpec that I'd shot side-by-side with a friends TRP. It took the taste outta my mouth. His stinking gun, while costing over twice as much, shot like a laser beam. I want that level of mechanical accuracy in a pistol. Here's my question - Between a Loaded, MC Operator, & full blown TRP, how great will the level of accuracy differ between them? I'm not so much concerned about any of the other details such as barrel type, checkering, light rail, etc, I'm just interested in the accuracy. Is there anything that goes into a TRP that makes it significantly more accurate than a loaded? The biggest difference will be the jump from the Loaded to the MC, not so much difference between the MC and the TRP. Though, the difference between all 3 will be pretty minute. If you have the funds, no reason to NOT get the TRP. I agree. I've had a loaded for a few years and I have the itch for the checkering and magwell. |
I owned the TRP and the Loaded at the same time for a while, though I no longer have either. To be honest, the Loaded and the TRP both shot the same for me. Sure, off a bench, the TRP would edge out the Loaded by a slight margin, but it looked to me like the extra money went into having a wag funnel and the checkering. Neither one was any less reliable than the other. The TRP was fitted noticeably better, but than still didn't equal better groups offhand, and there was no difference at all on a combat-style range. I didn't really think it was worth the extra money, unless you just absolutely have to have 20lpi checking. Now that stuff, I liked a lot. 
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Quoted: Every loaded I have ever seen, has been stamped Brazil. Dont know if thats still the case, were as the TRP is supposed to be all American made. I've never seen a Loaded stamped with Brazil, and the Loaded I owned, as well as my "Loaded" Operator, were 80% frames that were completed here in the US of A. |
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Every loaded I have ever seen, has been stamped Brazil. Dont know if thats still the case, were as the TRP is supposed to be all American made. I've never seen a Loaded stamped with Brazil, and the Loaded I owned, as well as my "Loaded" Operator, were 80% frames that were completed here in the US of A. My Loaded was on an Imbel (Brazillian) frame. |
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Every loaded I have ever seen, has been stamped Brazil. Dont know if thats still the case, were as the TRP is supposed to be all American made. I've never seen a Loaded stamped with Brazil, and the Loaded I owned, as well as my "Loaded" Operator, were 80% frames that were completed here in the US of A. Now you have 
The older loaded I have is marked Imbel as well. ETA pic. 
I'm itching like hell to get a TRP, but I just sent the first pistol off to Miller custom to get an action job, checkering, melonited, and some other goodies. I'm basically turning it into a TRP 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Every loaded I have ever seen, has been stamped Brazil. Dont know if thats still the case, were as the TRP is supposed to be all American made. I've never seen a Loaded stamped with Brazil, and the Loaded I owned, as well as my "Loaded" Operator, were 80% frames that were completed here in the US of A. My Loaded was on an Imbel (Brazillian) frame. I'm pretty sure that all the frames are Imbel, but some are completed in Brazil, and some are shipped as 80% frames and completed here. |
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Every loaded I have ever seen, has been stamped Brazil. Dont know if thats still the case, were as the TRP is supposed to be all American made. I've never seen a Loaded stamped with Brazil, and the Loaded I owned, as well as my "Loaded" Operator, were 80% frames that were completed here in the US of A. My Loaded was on an Imbel (Brazillian) frame. I'm pretty sure that all the frames are Imbel, but some are completed in Brazil, and some are shipped as 80% frames and completed here. Mine said "Made in Brazil" right on it. 
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| I've got a stainless loaded model that is stamped FI Brazil. It was scary accurate right out of the blue case that it came in, and still puts them all in one big hole. I've got a Kimber Custom II that will do the same thing. I've had the Springfield for about ten years now and carry it on uniformed duty. Stamped FI Brazil on the bottom of the dustcover. Says Springfield Geneseo, IL on the frame. |
| It is less expensive though. You can find Loaded models with out the Brazil markings but the are a pain to find. I lucked out and found a new stainless Loaded model with a NM serial number and no brazil markings.(Not even under the grips or dust cover) My vote is for the Operator if you don't like the checkering. With the TRP you loose the rail and get magwell, checkered front strap, and in my opinion much better grips(Mil-Tac I think) From what I have seen the Operators and the TRP models have the same overall good fit. I don't like rails and love front strap checkering. I own a TRP. |
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For those who have tried both, TRP & Operator, what about trigger pull? According to the SA web site, the TRP has 4.5-5 lb trigger vs 5-6 lb for the other models. I ask, for selfish reasons as may want to round up one of these 2 myself
I have a mil-spec and it runs great, I am more accurate w/ a lighter pull. I have a 3" Kimber and the trigger on it is great. Also thinking about sending Mil-spec to SA for a trigger job - (after I am done hoarding ammo) Opinions? |