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1/19/2008 1:52:54 PM EDT
It is a nock off I want to say canadian made High power with 2 clips one Ibc holster. It has about 700 rounds through it.  asking price $300? Thats as low as he will go
1/20/2008 8:56:40 AM EDT
[#1]
If it is Canadian made it is an Inglis Hi Power. It is still the official sidearm of Canadian forces and has also been issued to British forces.

During WWII the FN (Fabrique Nationale) plant in Belgium was overrun by the Germans, so manufacturing was done in Canada during 1944-45. Inglis made two versions- a tangent sight and a fixed sight. Tangent sighted version is more scarce. Inglis HP's were originally parkerized and many were "painted" black when returned for repair.

Being that an Inglis is Canadian military surplus I doubt it only has 700 rounds through it.

At any rate, $300 is a very good price for an Inglis in 80% condition or above.

*****

If it is an FEG, Charles Daly or FM (Fabrique Militar of Argentina) then $300 is close to what they sell for brand new. CDNN has been selling NIB Charles Daly Hi Powers for $299


1/20/2008 11:00:03 AM EDT
[#2]
There were also bunch of Indian made Hi Powers that look like Inglis.  $300 is a decent price on one of these too.  I think they were marked RFI  (Royal Factory Ishapor).  
1/21/2008 12:44:39 PM EDT
[#3]
If it is an Inglis, one thing to be aware of is that they are the world's only HP's made to SAE rather than metric measurements.  

This results in minor differences and incompatibilities with other HP parts.

An Inglis cannot swap slides with other HP's.
An Inglis cannot use other HP barrels (different lug count).
Not sure about various other small parts.

Point being if it's a shooter you will pay a premium for replacement BBL's (when you can even find them).  I would expect fitting to be required for most other parts.

Inglis slides are marked as such (left of slide reads Browning HP- 9mm Inglis, Canada), making them easy to spot.  They also have rear sights cut directly into the hump at the rear of the slide (unless it's an Indian w/ tangent sights)
FWIW the metalurgy and quality of the pistols is excellent, just hard to get reasonably priced parts for.
Pics below illustrate Canadian markings on Canadian mfg Inglis Hi-Power:

1/21/2008 5:10:22 PM EDT
[#4]
I am sorry it is a PJK-9HP it says made in Hungary
Did I get a deal or did I get a run for my money?
How do you tell how old this gun is?
Are the parts interchangeable with other HP?
Where can I buy parts i.e. replacement springs, firing pin, and barrel?
1/21/2008 8:09:39 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I am sorry it is a PJK-9HP it says made in Hungary
Did I get a deal or did I get a run for my money?
How do you tell how old this gun is?
Are the parts interchangeable with other HP?
Where can I buy parts i.e. replacement springs, firing pin, and barrel?


It's an FEG.
They are true clones, parts fit.
He didn't exactly hook you up with that price but if it's really clean and was an easy transaction you didn't get completely screwed either.  
They seem to be going for $250-$275 used online so take it for what it's worth.
How many mags came with?  two or more and you're back where you should be.

Metalurgy is not quite as good as the Belgian guns (FN) but is better than the Argentines (FM).

Can't help you with the date of mfg.
springs and parts are readily available all over the place, Brownells, Midway, Sarco (Sarco BHP parts) etc, etc.

Enjoy, it's a great platform!
 
1/22/2008 9:01:06 AM EDT
[#6]
What does the FEG mean? It doesn't say that on the gun
I have giving it a good cleaning/lube job but opperation the saftey is a pain is there something wrong with it?
How do I remover the magazine safety future?
1/22/2008 11:09:02 AM EDT
[#7]
FEG is FEGARMY Arms factory (formerly known as Fegyver es Gazkeszuelekgyara NV) of Hungary.
IIRC they were Military contract guns, many of which were never delivered and sold as surplus.

This look right?


If you've got a slide mounted safety it's another animal yet again.
Not sure why your's wouldn't have the FEG logo (inside of the hexagon next to the model # on the pic above).  
I have heard there are some variations in rollmarks but I don't know much about them

What is on the slide? It's possible it's a frankengun with an FEG frame and random slide.

Can't speak to the safety, might just be full of crud (or cosmoline), might be a mechanical issue.

As for the mag safety have a smith do it or sign up here Hi-Powers and Handguns, lots of good info to be had.  
1/22/2008 12:58:00 PM EDT
[#8]

On the one side it says (Imported By Kassnar Imports Inc Harrisburg PA 17112)

The other side says(PJK-9HP Budapest Made In Hungary There is a capitol F in front to the cercal number
All three numbers the lower receiver the barrel and the upper slide match
There is a small amount of wobble between the lower receiver and the upper slide when a round is chambered

My digital camera is old and the pictures come out blurred.
1/22/2008 1:54:02 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
On the one side it says (Imported By Kassnar Imports Inc Harrisburg PA 17112)

The other side says(PJK-9HP Budapest Made In Hungary There is a capitol F in front to the cercal number
All three numbers the lower receiver the barrel and the upper slide match
There is a small amount of wobble between the lower receiver and the upper slide when a round is chambered

My digital camera is old and the pictures come out blurred.


Sounds like it is an FEG with a different variation on the roll mark.
Nobody else uses the designation "PJK-9HP", particularly nobody else in Budapest
The matching numbers on the barrel, slide and frame was a common practice in military pistols.  
I'm sure the F is just a precourser to the SN string.   It should help you pretty quickly nail down a general idea of when it was made.
(if you look at the pictures of both the ingils and the FEG above they have alpha-numeric serial numbers and both have them engraged on all three major components).
- Again I don't know FEG production dates and markings very well at all so can't help you with those but I guarantee if you look into the site I linked above you'll get an answer in a couple of days.

As for the slide to frame fit, I wouldn't worry too much.
It's a combat pistol, not a match gun.  Some play is pretty typical in most of those types of guns.
Ask an old timer about a USGI 1911, from what I've heard they were like maracas
What really matters is that the breech and barrel re-align consistently and that there isn't excessive play between barrel and slide at the muzzle.

Get some pics!
1/22/2008 4:30:45 PM EDT
[#11]
How do you tell it the breech and barrel re-align consistently?
1/23/2008 5:48:32 AM EDT
[#12]
It goes bang the second time you pull the trigger....

1/23/2008 7:06:19 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
It goes bang the second time you pull the trigger....





Not much you can do outside of visibly checking for movement, excessive wiggle at the rear of the barrel.

Truest test is just to shot it from a rest and see if it has a wanderinf zero.

Looks like a nice pistol.  Enjoy
1/24/2008 7:18:52 AM EDT
[#14]
When I push the magazine release button the mag doesn't fall out I half to pull it out. Is this normal? What can I buy to fix this problem?
1/24/2008 8:08:48 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
When I push the magazine release button the mag doesn't fall out I half to pull it out. Is this normal? What can I buy to fix this problem?


Yes, your only option is to get factory mags with springs on the bottom or extract your mag disconnect safety.  
1/24/2008 9:19:46 AM EDT
[#16]
How do you get the mag disconnect safety out?
1/24/2008 7:04:39 PM EDT
[#17]
Go on the site called www.1911forum.com.  There is a browning Hipower section and the directions are tacked in there.  I did it just like he showed and it definitely helped my trigger pull and no my non sprung mags drop free.  That pin is in there pretty tight though.  Be forewarned.  
1/25/2008 12:30:52 PM EDT
[#18]
Thanks
Quick an easy fix
1/26/2008 10:32:38 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Thanks
Quick an easy fix


Did you do it?
1/26/2008 2:57:19 PM EDT
[#20]
Yes I am going shooting tomorrow


I will report my findings