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5/6/2020 7:27:58 AM EDT
I would like to know how they stack up compared to the much more expensive Sig magazines.  I can buy 3 ACT or 2 Sig.  What is the best choice and place to find some to buy.  Any problems with the 21 round Sig magazines?
5/6/2020 7:49:46 AM EDT
[#1]
I stick with factory Sig mags other than a few ETS sticks for fun. I've never even heard of ACT magazines. Not that they are bad or anything

All of my Sig 21 rounders have been flawless so far.
5/6/2020 8:05:04 AM EDT
[#2]
ACT-MAG / ARMSCOR SIG SAUER P250, P320 - M17 9mm 17 ROUND MAGAZINE 3209.
This is the magazine I am looking at.
5/6/2020 8:57:50 AM EDT
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I would like to know how they stack up compared to the much more expensive Sig magazines.  I can buy 3 ACT or 2 Sig.  What is the best choice and place to find some to buy.  Any problems with the 21 round Sig magazines?
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I would like to know how they stack up compared to the much more expensive Sig magazines.  I can buy 3 ACT or 2 Sig.  What is the best choice and place to find some to buy.  Any problems with the 21 round Sig magazines?


I've used their P320, M&P and 1911 magazines. Haven't had an issue of any sort with any of them.

Originally Posted By TrailerTrash556:
I stick with factory Sig mags other than a few ETS sticks for fun. I've never even heard of ACT magazines. Not that they are bad or anything

All of my Sig 21 rounders have been flawless so far.


ACT has a solid reputation and has a nice line of Italian made magazines. Their stuff is top notch, on par or better than most of the OEM stuff they cover.
5/6/2020 10:19:46 AM EDT
[#4]
It sounds like they are worth looking into
5/6/2020 11:25:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 64tinc:
ACT-MAG / ARMSCOR SIG SAUER P250, P320 - M17 9mm 17 ROUND MAGAZINE 3209.
This is the magazine I am looking at.
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I've got a bunch. They work fine. Once I found out about them I stopped buying Sig brand 17rd'ers
5/6/2020 11:55:38 AM EDT
[#6]
I didn't know they made 320 mags as I only use their P220 mags and they have all been perfect. The way they look I always thought they were rebranded factory.
5/6/2020 12:55:04 PM EDT
[#7]
They are a great mag.
They even have a nicer finish than a SIG branded mag.

There's your review.





ETA:
Got my first batch for $17.85 each this past December
Freakin' stole 'em
5/6/2020 1:27:30 PM EDT
[#8]
Mags are good to go
5/6/2020 6:36:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Thanks for the information and I will look around to find the best deal on them
5/6/2020 6:51:18 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By 64tinc:
Thanks for the information and I will look around to find the best deal on them
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Search on ACT-MAG 3209
$20.14
Do it now before the lurkers grab them.
5/6/2020 8:55:13 PM EDT
[#11]
In stock here
5/6/2020 9:13:06 PM EDT
[#12]
My RIA 1911 came with ACT mags.

They’re easily on par with Wilson mags for my purposes (casual range shooting).
5/7/2020 5:11:26 AM EDT
[#13]
Now they would just make .40 or 45acp mags or maybe compact 15 rounders or 12 round subcompacts for 9mm.
5/7/2020 6:44:12 AM EDT
[#14]
Do Sig basepads like Springer or Tarantactical fit the ACT mags?
5/7/2020 8:45:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DonofKalifornia:
Do Sig basepads like Springer or Tarantactical fit the ACT mags?
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The tube has a standard flange.
I put Gray Guns on mine.

The issued basepads will reportedly fit an X-grip without trimming.
I haven't verified that though.
5/7/2020 10:17:15 AM EDT
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The tube has a standard flange.
I put Gray Guns on mine.

The issued basepads will reportedly fit an X-grip without trimming.
I haven't verified that though.
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They do. I use act mags with an X5
5/8/2020 5:18:37 AM EDT
[#17]
I have a few of their 17 round mags that I used to make my 23 round extended mags using TTI +5 extensions with Gram engineering 11 coil mag spring and follower kit. As best as I can tell they are the same as the factory mags minus the logo and finish which is blued rather than an AFC. My custom mags have about 1,200 rounds through them with no issues.

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5/8/2020 1:18:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charlie_Foxtrot:
I have a few of their 17 round mags that I used to make my 23 round extended mags using TTI +5 extensions with Gram engineering 11 coil mag spring and follower kit. As best as I can tell they are the same as the factory mags minus the logo and finish which is blued rather than an AFC. My custom mags have about 1,200 rounds through them with no issues. 

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Holy cow!  

Now see, folks, Charlie’s response is precisely what the OP requested:  feedback from an ACTUAL user of these ACT magazines.

Charlie’s not only tested them for us, he’s included a pic of them.  It’s men like Charlie that add quality, useful content to this site.

5/8/2020 2:12:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dominion21:


Holy cow!  

Now see, folks, Charlie’s response is precisely what the OP requested:  feedback from an ACTUAL user of these ACT magazines.

Charlie’s not only tested them for us, he’s included a pic of them.  It’s men like Charlie that add quality, useful content to this site. 

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Another Holy Cow...
I have 12 P320 mags :
(4) ACT-MAG 17's with GG basepads
(4) OEM 17's with Legion basepads
(4) OEM 21's

Too lazy for pics.
Where are your pics, pal ?



ETA:
(4) ACT-MAG 17's retirement gift to shooting buddy
5/9/2020 12:30:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Direct-Drive:

Another Holy Cow...
I have 12 P320 mags :
(4) ACT-MAG 17's with GG basepads
(4) OEM 17's with Legion basepads
(4) OEM 21's 

Too lazy for pics.
Where are your pics, pal ?



ETA:
(4) ACT-MAG 17's retirement gift to shooting buddy
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Why, I happen to have a few pics posted right here:  https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Sig-p320-80-easy-enough-for-most-cavemen-to-do-with-photos-and-video-links-/4-193688/


5/9/2020 5:58:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dominion21:


Holy cow!  

Now see, folks, Charlie’s response is precisely what the OP requested:  feedback from an ACTUAL user of these ACT magazines.

Charlie’s not only tested them for us, he’s included a pic of them.  It’s men like Charlie that add quality, useful content to this site. 

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Thanks but I haven't really tested them enough in their stock form to really say they are reliable or not. I bought them initially because they were less expensive and all I needed was the mag bodies. Everything else was replaced. That said the research I did online suggests they are good to go. Everyone who has used them has given them a green light.

One side note for those that are intrested the ACT mags and their blued finish is slicker. The ACT mags insert and eject smoother than the factory mags. This is especially noticeable when using the Wilson Combat grip module.
5/9/2020 9:41:44 AM EDT
[#22]
Not a direct comparo, but I bought several mags for my CZ from gregcote. Bought some nicer mec-gars for carry and a couple ACT's for range use.

The ACT's function just the same as the more expensive Mec-gars. If it wasn't for owning 10 320's and being able to get a couple extra mags for some of them a year ago, I would be stocking up on the ACT's
5/9/2020 11:44:51 AM EDT
[#23]
@Coregon
Who is the US-based manufacturer of P320 mags with the "Circle J" rollmark ?
5/9/2020 8:24:28 PM EDT
[#24]
You guys are great.  I am so glad I asked about them.  Sometimes you get what you pay for and sometimes you get more than what you pay for. I have magazines on the way.  I also looked into my Sig 220 pouches and found 4 ACT magazines that I have had for years and been using.  Thanks again for the great information and I hope this helps others as well.  I picked up my 320 today and can't wait to get to the range.  Mother's day is going to prolong  that though.  No matter how much I want to go to the range, Mother's day takes precedence.
5/9/2020 11:18:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Just a quick photo essay. For comparison the factory P320 magazine and components will always be on the left and the ACT magazine and components will always be on the right. Tomorrow I am going to take the six ACT magazines I have and run 200 rounds through each of them in their factory configuration to test their reliability. I don’t expect any issues but I will report anything that comes up. I realize this is a small sample size.

Comparing these two mags they are very close. Just some very small differences. The mold marks in the plastic suggest to me they come from the same plastic manufacturer. In fact I’m pretty sure the factory mags are ACT mags or at least made by ACT. You be the judge.

5/9/2020 11:24:41 PM EDT
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Show the Made in Italy side.
I see it now.
The SIG marked mags on the left are by MecGar.
I do love those ACT-MAGS....nicer finish and nicer price
5/9/2020 11:26:14 PM EDT
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5/9/2020 11:27:25 PM EDT
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5/9/2020 11:29:11 PM EDT
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I’m curious if anyone has any older P320
mags laying around if the stamping used in the ACT mags are the same as the older designed P320 mags. That might explain some of the slight differences.
5/9/2020 11:31:14 PM EDT
[#33]
Now the ACT is supposed to work in an X-grip without trimming.
The OEM 17rd needs to be trimmed.

What's the scoop there ?
The basepads look the same.
5/9/2020 11:36:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charlie_Foxtrot:
I’m curious if anyone has any older P320
mags laying around if the stamping used in the ACT mags are the same as the older designed P320 mags. That might explain some of the slight differences.
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I don't think ACT was ever under contract to make mags for SIG.
There's a guy on another site that is on the CheckMate Pistol team and he said that for P320, SIG has contracted with 3 companies to supply mags.
MecGar - Italy
CheckMate - USA ("C" in square mark)
Undisclosed - USA ( "J" in circle mark)
5/9/2020 11:42:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Direct-Drive:
Now the ACT is supposed to work in an X-grip without trimming.
The OEM 17rd needs to be trimmed.

What's the scoop there ?
The basepads look the same.
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Only the original mags have to be trimmed. When the 320 first came out and early on the MHS trials the X-Series grip was not a thing, so the baseplates were flush and fit the contour of the guns. Once the X-Series grips came out all mags since have had the Gen 2 base plates.
5/9/2020 11:44:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charlie_Foxtrot:
I’m curious if anyone has any older P320
mags laying around if the stamping used in the ACT mags are the same as the older designed P320 mags. That might explain some of the slight differences.
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Old mags just has the word SigSauer stamped on the bottoms. I still have 6 of the old mags.
5/9/2020 11:49:11 PM EDT
[#37]
The mag bodies are part of my EDC set up. I fully trust this set up as I’ve tested it.

M18, ACT 17 rnd mag with a TTI +2 for a total of 19+1 and two 17 rnd ACT mags with TTI +5 and gram engineering 11 coil springs with followers for a total of 23 rounds per mag. My EDC is 66 rnds of 9mm. I realize this might sound heavy to some of you but my prior carry was a Beretta WC Brig Tac with a Surefire X300, a mecgar 18 rnd mag and two 20 round back ups. This new EDC set up is lighter, plus I get an RMR and a few more rounds.

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5/9/2020 11:50:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By joglee:


Old mags just has the word SigSauer stamped on the bottoms. I still have 6 of the old mags.
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@joglee

Can you post pics of the sides of those mags please?
5/10/2020 12:11:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By joglee:


Only the original mags have to be trimmed. When the 320 first came out and early on the MHS trials the X-Series grip was not a thing, so the baseplates were flush and fit the contour of the guns. Once the X-Series grips came out all mags since have had the Gen 2 base plates.
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With one exception.
The 17rd Gen 2 mags will not lock into an X-Five with the magwell funnel.
I put Gray Guns basepads on my ACT 17's to fix that issue.
5/10/2020 12:16:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charlie_Foxtrot:
The mag bodies are part of my EDC set up. I fully trust this set up as I’ve tested it. 

M18, ACT 17 rnd mag with a TTI +2 for a total of 19+1 and two 17 rnd ACT mags with TTI +5 and gram engineering 11 coil springs with followers for a total of 23 rounds per mag. My EDC is 66 rnds of 9mm. I realize this might sound heavy to some of you but my prior carry was a Beretta WC Brig Tac with a Surefire X300, a mecgar 18 rnd mag and two 20 round back ups. This new EDC set up is lighter, plus I get an RMR and a few more rounds. 

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Anywhere to get TTI basepads for less than full retail ?
5/10/2020 12:40:45 AM EDT
[#41]
I get mine from Two brothers tactical. I bought some from Ben Stogers pro shop but their shipping was very, very, slow. Their communication was poor as well. I doubt I’ll ever buy from them.
5/10/2020 12:43:10 AM EDT
[#42]
Thanks
5/10/2020 10:13:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charlie_Foxtrot:


@joglee

Can you post pics of the sides of those mags please?
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These are from late 2016 time frame if I remember when I got the gun correctly. One day I plan to buy new Gen 2 baseplates to replace the ones I have.


5/10/2020 12:18:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Thanks. I was hoping to see the 15 and 17 markings like on the ACT mags. My guess is ACT has both markings on the 17 rnd mags because they use the same press for both the 15 rnd and 17 rnd mags and then just add the cut to the porcess for the 15 rnd mags. This is just speculation though. I haven't been able to find the 15 rnd mags in stock or I would buy some.

@joglee

Send me your address. I'll send you some of the ACT floor plates and locking plates from my ACT mags. They should work and I'm not using them after today anyways.

5/11/2020 11:50:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Fully tested all of my ACT P320 17 rnd mags in the factory configuration. Nothing much to report. Roughly 1,300ish rounds were fired through the six ACT mags and all were boringly reliable in my M18, 2 X-Carrys and an X-Compact. For me, I will be buying more. Especially when I can get almost get two ACT mags for the price of one factory marked mag.
5/12/2020 12:25:05 PM EDT
[#46]
Ordered 5 and they came in today.  Look good and were packed very well and safe bagged with lots of paper in a box with a bag around that.  Got them from Cote, my second order from them and will probably order more in the future.  Magazines look good will function test them soon.  Thanks again for all the great information.  Glock poor, soon to be Sig poor.  Looking for a good deal on X carry or just a regular carry since the Wilson frames look good and might want to give one of them a try soon.
5/12/2020 3:49:01 PM EDT
[#47]
I've been doing business with Greg Cote for years. Outstanding service from them. They are always a first stop for me when I am mag shopping.

@joglee I dropped three floor plates and locking plates in th mail today.
5/14/2020 3:18:01 AM EDT
[#48]
Ive got 2 for my M17 and they run great...
5/23/2020 1:27:47 AM EDT
[#49]
The ACT mags are most likely the OEM manufacturer. I don’t think any major gun company makes their own mags. Beretta, Colt, CZ, And I’m sure Sig contracts mags out.
5/23/2020 1:32:08 AM EDT
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The ACT mags are most likely the OEM manufacturer. I don’t think any major gun company makes their own mags. Beretta, Colt, CZ, And I’m sure Sig contracts mags out.
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Nope.
I have it on good authority that ACT-MAG is not under contract to SIG for P320 mags.
SIG uses 3 different manufacturers for their P320 mags.
MecGar - Made in Italy
Checkmate - ("C" in square rollmark) USA
Undisclosed - ("J" in circle rollmark) USA

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