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1/9/2011 4:40:51 AM EDT
Okay.  I took the glock armorer course.  An officer from day shift came in this morning and said he had an issue with his gen3 22.  So I look at it.
It's not returning to full battery after u chamber it.  I thought recoil spring.  Nope.  I tried another one and no luck.  I asked him what he did to make it do this.   The officer said that he took it apart to clean it. Just the four basic parts to clean. I did everything I could to figure it out.  I even swapped some parts with other pistols to see anything and no luck.  It seems to get stuck at the back of the slide and frame.  Now, if you pull the trigger (dry fire) it'll return it full battery.  Also, even with the entire trigger assembly out, it does this.
I'll mess with it some more later today.  Have to redeem myself.  Very curious as to why this is happening.  Like I said, I took the armorer course but I'm not a gunsmith.  
Please any help would be very much appreciated.    Again, nothing looks out of the ordinary anywhere on the weapon.  
1/9/2011 4:51:05 AM EDT
[#1]
Did he drop anything? Check the lower barrel lugs for any damage.
1/9/2011 4:55:16 AM EDT
[#2]
The gun is COMPLETELY stripped.  Nothing at all in the frame or slide and it's still doing it.  So it's frame to slide contact somehow.
1/9/2011 6:33:48 AM EDT
[#3]
did you get my pm
1/9/2011 8:24:52 AM EDT
[#4]
I'm curious as to what was causing this, please update when problem is resolved.
1/9/2011 8:34:43 AM EDT
[#5]
Is the trigger installed correctly in the trigger housing? Here is a thread on Glocktalk.com that might help..??
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1302206&highlight=trigger

Oops did see this post.
Quoted:
The gun is COMPLETELY stripped.  Nothing at all in the frame or slide and it's still doing it.  So it's frame to slide contact somehow.


Is the firing block in or out?
1/9/2011 9:04:55 AM EDT
[#6]
Do the rail inserts in the frame look OK?
How about the rail channels in the slide?

If you have access to another Gen3 Model 22, can you duplicate the problem with a different slide on that officer's frame?
Can you duplicate the problem with a different frame on that officer's slide?

We'll get this isolated soon.
1/9/2011 9:33:51 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

Do the rail inserts in the frame look OK?
How about the rail channels in the slide?

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These are my thoughts as well, considering the frame and slide are completely disassembled.
1/9/2011 10:48:04 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
The gun is COMPLETELY stripped.  Nothing at all in the frame or slide and it's still doing it.  So it's frame to slide contact somehow.


Starnge that it would return to battery when you dry fired it.
1/9/2011 5:09:36 PM EDT
[#9]
Okay.   Sorry I took so long to get back to you guys.  Being that I work over night, I slept today.   So here it is.   I found the reason why it wasn't returning completely to full battery.   I don't know what the officer did but the rear of the slide is actually bent in just a tiny bit to where if your just looking at the gun, you will miss it.  I was pulling my hair out to find the problem and there is was.  With the slide and frame completely stripped down, it was still doing it.   Thank you to all for your awesome support.  So for future reference, here are the pics.  Curious to see what the Chief's reaction will be to this.  Either the gun will go to a gunsmith for repair or be used for parts.

Slide:  you can't tell to well with the pic, but it is bent.

Frame
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1/9/2011 5:16:53 PM EDT
[#10]
Did he drop the slide while cleaning it?  
1/9/2011 5:45:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Did he drop the slide while cleaning it?  


I'm curious how this could happen, I highly doubt just dropping the slide could have caused such damage.
1/9/2011 5:45:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Sounds like he dropped the slide on that side. It should be possible to repair but I'd contact Glock anyway...
1/9/2011 8:12:15 PM EDT
[#13]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Did he drop the slide while cleaning it?  


I'm curious how this could happen, I highly doubt just dropping the slide could have caused such damage.


By drop, I meant forcefully throw into a solid slab of concrete...

 
1/9/2011 8:18:51 PM EDT
[#14]
Can't it be fixed with a popsicle stick and some 320 - 800 grit sandpaper?  It only needs a couple thousandths clearance.
1/9/2011 8:28:36 PM EDT
[#15]
I think that can probably be fixed without too much trouble.

It's odd, to say the least, especially since the finish doesn't look donked-up in that area.

I'm reminded of stories of 1911 owners using a vise on the slide at the rails to make the slide-to-frame fit tighter for accuracy....

....but since it's only on one side and only at the rear, I'd give the officer the benefit of the doubt on that one!

Curious.
1/9/2011 11:20:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
I think that can probably be fixed without too much trouble.

It's odd, to say the least, especially since the finish doesn't look donked-up in that area.

I'm reminded of stories of 1911 owners using a vise on the slide at the rails to make the slide-to-frame fit tighter for accuracy....

....but since it's only on one side and only at the rear, I'd give the officer the benefit of the doubt on that one!

Curious.


Curious yes.   You and me both.  I think it's salvageable.
2/11/2011 4:44:19 PM EDT
[#17]
Any idea as to how I can go about bending it back into place?
2/11/2011 4:47:55 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Any idea as to how I can go about bending it back into place?


Call Glock before you make it worse.
2/11/2011 5:43:22 PM EDT
[#19]
He dropped the slide on a hard surface.



Happens all the time. On 1911's the left, rear corner will break clean off at the safety notch.
2/11/2011 5:43:57 PM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:


Any idea as to how I can go about bending it back into place?


That slide is scrap.



 
2/12/2011 1:12:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Call GLock and it's crap!  Okay got it.  
Thx gents!
2/12/2011 2:48:42 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


Call GLock and it's crap!  Okay got it.  

Thx gents!


I said "scrap." AKA irreparable.



Sorry we can not be more helpful, but your boy FUBAR'ed it all to hell.



 
2/13/2011 9:01:39 AM EDT
[#23]
If it's a LE gun, which it is, Glock will replace the frame free. A bent rail usually happens when the slide is carelessly replaced onto the frame but the slide runs over the rear rails. This can cause it to be stuck pretty good. A forceful hammering in the wrong direction can distort the rail. Make sure the slide and the rear slide rails are lined up. There's enough play in the slide to cause this if you're not careful.