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Link Posted: 3/9/2010 1:17:29 AM EST



Originally Posted By Mountainmalitia:




4.5 is plenty for me.  With the ghost rocket will it still be duty worthy or is it more of a range upgrade?



I have not heard of any problems with the Ghost. It does have to be fitted. Other 3.5lb. connectors are drop-in.



 
Link Posted: 3/9/2010 9:02:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/9/2010 11:12:24 AM EST by GLOCKREAPER]
The 25 and 28 are significantly different than other Glock's as they
are direct blowback. The way Glock accomplishes this is by machining
away the locking surfaces of the barrel hood.













 
Link Posted: 3/17/2010 10:20:18 PM EST


Originally Posted By: ricky_arthur





Glock .40 S&W chamber Changes (pic)
–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––­–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
I've seen several people ask about reported changes to the .40 glock
chamber and feedramp but never saw the pics they were looking for so I
took one.
On the left is a gen 2 glock bbl bought about 1999. In the middle is
a gen 3 glock bbl bought this year and on the right is an aftermarket
bbl.

I measured the chambers, The after market bbl chamber measured
average .428. Both glock chambers measured average .432 so it appears
the chamber was left unchanged other than the modifications to the
chamber mouth and significant changes to the depth and width of the feed
ramp. The changes give better support to the case head as you can see.
Ricky


 
 
 
Link Posted: 3/25/2010 11:53:05 AM EST
For the reccommended six oiling points, what product do you all prefer to use?
Link Posted: 3/25/2010 6:19:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/25/2010 6:20:03 PM EST by Maynard]
Link Posted: 3/26/2010 3:00:45 AM EST



Originally Posted By satellite:


For the reccommended six oiling points, what product do you all prefer to use?


Glock's "official" answer is to use any oil designed for firearm use. The "unofficial" answer is BreakFree CLP. That is what Glock uses.



 
Link Posted: 4/1/2010 11:07:42 AM EST
upgraded recoil guide rod made of Polymer and stamped with the "1" on the rod  ––––  Posted above -are the upgraded recoil rods available separately to buy ?

Thanks
Link Posted: 4/1/2010 6:54:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/1/2010 6:55:17 PM EST by GLOCKREAPER]





Originally Posted By sharkbait:



Posted above -are the upgraded recoil rods available separately to buy ?





Yes. You can order one from anywhere and it will be the new one. They have been out for a few years now. You could call Glock USA and tell them you need a new recoil spring assembly and they should send you one free.





 
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 10:39:18 AM EST
Thank you
Link Posted: 4/2/2010 4:46:45 PM EST
You're welcome!
Link Posted: 4/22/2010 3:18:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/22/2010 10:00:56 PM EST by OEF5]
In addition to the large article of 100,000 round test, there is a great Youtube video of a glock 10,000 round test.  Just search Glock 10,000 1000 tourter test.

The instructer and a second shooter fire 10,000 1000 rounds out of his service pistol.  I can't post the link right now because of work, I'll update it when I get a chance at home.

It's worth a watch for anyone who has doubts about these weapons.  I owned a Glock 19 in 1991, and just bought a Gen 4 G22.  Loved the old one and love the new one even better, just need some night sites on it.

Also in reference to the RTF if you have not really felt it, the Gen 4 is not nearly as aggressive as the RTF 3 is really really aggresive and had the opertunity before I bought my new one to feel all styles and liked the Gen 4 better.

One last thing I'll add to update is a set of pictures showing the different mag releases.  I know it's larger on the Gen 4.  You have great shots of all the other changes but missed that one.  It's something to look at when buying a new Glock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JuF23qazI
Edited cause I got 0 happy and added the link.  Two segments, enjoy.
Link Posted: 5/6/2010 6:32:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:
When installing the firing pin spring make sure the end with the most coils goes forward, over the spring cups. Also, make sure the split of the cups are oriented as seen in the bottom picture.

From Glocks Armorers Manual Addendum, "Firing Pin Spring...the end withthe most coils goes toward the spring cups" (this is in the parts orderform)


http://i37.tinypic.com/nbbv5h.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/o5tl3d.jpg



When installing the coil trigger spring be sure that it forms an "S" when viewed from the right side of the frame.

http://glockparts.com/uiimages/10010/trigwbar2.JPG
 


So I am assuming that when you run an aftermarket spring that has evenly spaced coils, it really won't matter?  I have a Wolf and a Zevtech that are both even on coils...what to do????????????????

Link Posted: 5/6/2010 7:21:59 PM EST



Originally Posted By diversmith:



So I am assuming that when you run an aftermarket spring that has evenly spaced coils, it really won't matter?  I have a Wolf and a Zevtech that are both even on coils...what to do????????????????




If they are equal ends, then it doesn't matter. Just try to properly orientate the cups gap with the end of the spring.



 
Link Posted: 5/9/2010 10:08:52 AM EST
Please feel free to use any of these along with my "glockSizes.gif"


overlay of nines



In a row



17 & 19 overlay



19 & 26 overlay



And the 9mm sizes animated gif.

XM15carbine
Link Posted: 5/16/2010 4:02:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/14/2011 5:42:07 PM EST by GLOCKREAPER]
Glock factory manual safety options (not available in the U.S.)













 
Link Posted: 5/16/2010 4:16:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/23/2010 7:49:15 PM EST by GLOCKREAPER]




GLOCK SAFETY LOCK




The GLOCK safety lock is one of the
latest developments from GLOCK.
The GLOCK safety lock is the first
safety cylinder lock for pistols worldwide
located conveniently in the back of the pistol
grip. The GLOCK safety lock ensures that the
weapon cannot be used or disassembled without
permission.

GLOCK’s modern key technology
permits the best possible adaptation to your
requirements. Group key solutions with hierarchic
structure are the intelligent answer to in any
conceivable organization structure found in public
law enforcement agencies.
THE KEY
As an option, the key can be used for both the pistol and the security
case. Each key is absolutely unique through state-of-the-art safety
technology. Group key solutions are also possible for use by law
enforcement agencies.


 
Link Posted: 5/16/2010 5:20:42 PM EST
G17DK




Made for countries with minimum overall length/barrel length regulations. This one was for Denmark.

Link Posted: 5/31/2010 7:54:34 AM EST





Link Posted: 6/16/2010 2:16:52 PM EST
[
On the recoil spring assembly, look on the back of the guide rod for a "1". This is the newer rod made from a modified polymer to prevent melting.

 


According to my Glock Armorer Instructor yesterday - the modification is the addition of ground glass.
Link Posted: 6/16/2010 3:22:07 PM EST



Originally Posted By Stoop:



According to my Glock Armorer Instructor yesterday - the modification is the addition of ground glass.


Now that's a quality post! Thank you.



 
Link Posted: 6/16/2010 4:13:58 PM EST
Originally Posted By Stoop:
[
On the recoil spring assembly, look on the back of the guide rod for a "1". This is the newer rod made from a modified polymer to prevent melting.

 


According to my Glock Armorer Instructor yesterday - the modification is the addition of ground glass.


I would guess what he meant was glass fiber reinforced.
Link Posted: 6/19/2010 2:37:22 AM EST
Link Posted: 6/19/2010 3:35:14 AM EST
Good update. Thank you.
Link Posted: 6/28/2010 4:37:35 AM EST





Originally
Posted By ShakenNotStirred:







Based on some of the commentary that this thread has so far received, I
have actually been reluctant to post any report.  Glock was gracious
enough to permit us into their headquarters and were (I think)
incredibly forthcoming about our (well, my) questions.  Andreas, the
tour guide (one of the international sales directors) said that the
usual questions are things like "how far do they shoot" and other such
non-shooter issues.





I think that the greatest lesson learned from
this trip is that most interwebz-commandoz would be far better served
calling Glock Customer Service for answers to questions than they are
arguing with each other in the ARFCOM Glock Forum, or on Glock Talk.  
Further, the interwebz has not, in any way/shape/form, promoted patience
in the market.  I truly feel a bit more sympathy for Glock, Magpul,
BCM, Spike's Tactical, Bushmaster, and other firms who have taken the
immature wrath of the interwebz-commandoz.





That said, here are some of my notes, which will
hopefully address the most urgent concerns of the more serious-minded
Glock fans.





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Generation
3 vs Generation 4




    ·        




  • The terms (Gen1 through
    Gen3) were created by the market and Glock adopted it.





  • There
    is absolutely no intention of terminating Gen3 production.





  • Gen4
    was developed because of perceived market demand; Glock does not see a
    real LE/Mil need for the Gen4.




  • Three back strap sizes:  none
    (small), medium, large.





  • Redesigned to maintain the same
    grip angle as previous generations, to ensure that muscle memory remains
    the same to ensure the same pointing characteristics.





  • 2mm
    shorter length of pull from  the web of the hand.





  • Texture is
    market driven … RTF2 was too rough for many shooters, and hard on LE
    uniforms.





  • Dual springs:  intended to cover all ammo types.  
    This worked for 40, but not for 9mm (which will have two differently
    rated spring sets, to cover a wider variety of ammo).





  • Gen4
    availability:  17, 19, 22, 23, 31 are available now.  21, 26, 27, 34,
    and 35 are on the way.








Magazines









  • Glock
    is always tweaking their mags due to changes in the ammunition
    manufacturing.  They recognize the importance of the magazine to
    function and take the design VERY seriously (hence the continual
    upgrading of followers).





  • QC with the stamping of the mag
    body is one of the most complicated processes they have.





  • Mag
    bodies go through multiple stamping operations (in one machine) and
    come from a tape of sheet metal.  They wind up looking almost like a
    complete mag from a SIG, to include an interlocking rear seam with tack
    stamps holding the teeth together (no welding at all).





  • The
    steel is a carbon alloy, not stainless (Edelstahl).  However, it
    receives an anti-corrosion surface treatment.





  • The "1" and
    "2" on the 40-cal mag bodies indicate certain changes to the geometry of
    the mag body's taper and feed lips.





  • 40-cal stick mags
    should be available in CONUS as we speak.





  • No plans to
    develop 45-cal stick mags.





  • I picked up a finished G26 mag
    body fresh from the polymer overmolding and finishing machine.  It was
    very warm to the touch, and ready to be assembled.





   


Green Polymer:






  • I picked up a fresh OD Gen3 G17 frame
    from the molding machine.  It was wet, and quite cool to the touch.  
    There is no serial number on the plate, but there is a laser code inside
    the beavertail area that uniquely ID's the frame for internal control
    and inventory.





  • The OD polymer is not as quite
    strong/durable/UV-resistant as black, they recommend black to customers …
    the same applies to other manufacturers who use other colors of polymer
    (like FDE).





  • Not many are sold, and this color was
    introduced due to a U.S. Army requirement.





  • If you want a
    Gen4 or RTF2 Glock in OD, you need to order 20k units (ha, ha).











Carbine






  • They
    have been working on one (5.56mm) on and off for years.





  • Corporate
    interest is higher now because of the possibility of a new U.S. Army
    tender for a carbine.





  • They have many individual ideas worked
    out, but haven't integrated them into one package that meets their
    standards for reliability, ease of maintenance/use, and ease/efficiency
    of manufacture.











22LR Conversion & Full-Sized
"Slimline"









  • No 22 conversion will be produced.  If Glock
    ever produces a 22, it will be a complete gun.





  • 22LR guns are
    very difficult to get to run reliably (due to magazine and ammo
    considerations).  They won't make one until it meets their standards.





  • There
    was a very positive reaction to the possibility of the market seeing a
    full-sized, single-stack "Slimline" Glock in 45 Auto.











Indoor
Range









  • Two lane (each its own complete, sealed tunnel),
    underground, industrial range.





  • Bullet collection is a steel
    funnel leading to a snail trap.





  • Firing fixtures are
    available for accuracy testing.





  • Each pistol fires 7 rounds
    (mags are automatically machine loaded for the testers):  2 proof rounds
    and five standard pressure rounds for accuracy.





  • 6.5mm rear
    sights are standard, but can be swapped for 6.3mm or 6.7mm if tolerances
    have stacked and result in high or low groups.





  • For
    demonstration purposes, almost every pistol configuration was on-hand,
    and all chamberings of ammunition were available.






 
Link Posted: 7/16/2010 3:23:22 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/18/2010 8:15:58 PM EST
I just got a Gen3 G19 as a gift today that was manufactured in 1998. It came with three "ban" mags (still have the LEO/MIL only stamp on them). Two have "9mm1" on the follower, and one has "9mm3," denoting the changes made as mentioned in the OP. I will try to get some photos up to show the difference in the followers soon and you can add them to the OP as well.
Link Posted: 7/22/2010 12:39:10 PM EST
I noticed that my G21's nose curved up when I
first added my custom 6" slide.  You can see it in the picture below.  
The front of the frame actually rubbed against the bottom of the slide.


I
fixed it quite easily and permanently.   Remove the slide and dip the
first couple of inches of the frame 'nose' (I dipped the entire length
of the light rail) into boiling water for 10-15 seconds then take it
out, turn it over, and press the front flats that curve up together on
your counter top, cutting board, etc., and slightly rock the grip up to
straighten out the front.  
If it cools off before you're happy
with it, just repeat the process.  You can't hurt the frame material in
210° water but you can soften the front up just enough to push it to a
new set point.  
This is what it looked like when I was done.  




Note that it's nice and parallel with the slide now and it's stayed that way for over 5 years.













 
 
 
Link Posted: 8/23/2010 1:29:26 PM EST
they won't really go through a metal detector









Link Posted: 8/23/2010 9:10:19 PM EST
Great post!
Link Posted: 8/24/2010 3:44:54 PM EST
GLOCKREAPER sugguested I post this for people to see a while ago finally got around to it.  Hope this helps people identify the difference in trigger springs

Black frame has NY1 you can see its OD green. The OD frame has standard trigger spring.

Link Posted: 12/24/2010 9:12:49 AM EST
Coupled with the above photograph, the springs as seen side by side so you can get a perspective of their relative sizes to each other:



Link Posted: 1/31/2011 9:19:47 PM EST
Im glad I got the first RTF2 with the sand paper feel and the curved serrations.  Sharp looking pistol and feels and shoots great
Link Posted: 2/15/2011 10:49:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 4/16/2011 3:57:26 PM EST by supremeweasel67]
As a new Glock owner this was Very Informational.



Don't really plan to change/upgrade anything, except maybe adding NS.



Link Posted: 6/10/2011 2:48:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/10/2011 9:06:08 PM EST by Swat_dude]
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Link Posted: 6/10/2011 11:05:02 AM EST



Originally Posted By Swat_dude:


I looked but I did not see the dates that each Gen was released. I just sold a Glock 22C Gen3 and the buyer seemed shocked when I told him I bought it in 1994.


GEN1 1982-1988



GEN2 1988/89-1997/98



GEN3 1997/98-present



GEN4 2009-present



 
Link Posted: 6/10/2011 11:32:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/10/2011 9:03:19 PM EST by Swat_dude]
Originally Posted By GLOCKREAPER:

Originally Posted By Swat_dude:
I looked but I did not see the dates that each Gen was released. I just sold a Glock 22C Gen3 and the buyer seemed shocked when I told him I bought it in 1994.

GEN1 1982-1988

GEN2 1988/89-1997/98

GEN3 1997/98-present

GEN4 2009-present
 


EDIT: My bad. I have owned so many Glocks over the years I got confused. Rather than add another response to thread, I will just state here that I was able to dig out my old receipt and I did in fact purchase it 7/13/98 for $405.00.
Link Posted: 6/10/2011 7:37:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/10/2011 8:00:17 PM EST by GLOCKREAPER]







Originally Posted By Swat_dude:
Serial CUH0**, a full three years before your date above.







That's late June-early July, 1998.




Originally Posted By Swat_dude:




The LE only mags that came with were stamped 9-13-94.





That is the date the Crime Bill, AKA "Assault Weapons Ban" went into
effect. It is used to identify post-ban "high capacity" magazines.
 
Link Posted: 6/14/2011 5:27:55 PM EST
Here is the maintenance section of the owners manual for those that don't have one.

























 
Link Posted: 6/14/2011 5:30:58 PM EST


 
Link Posted: 6/25/2011 12:50:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/25/2011 12:50:42 PM EST by smoketheresfire]
Space reserved for later.
Link Posted: 7/13/2011 8:47:55 PM EST
The early "wasps tail" slide lock spring (left) is know to occasionally break, causing the slide assembly to slide off when the trigger is pulled.



In the late '90's, Glock modified it by making it full thickness and breakage with the new slide lock spring (right) is no longer a problem.




Link Posted: 8/11/2011 2:44:35 PM EST
Sorry for the stupid question but my RTF2 pictured below is a Gen3 correct? (not Gen4)

Link Posted: 8/11/2011 8:00:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By Chevy_Muscle:
Sorry for the stupid question but my RTF2 pictured below is a Gen3 correct? (not Gen4)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/ChevyMuscle454ss/Glock_RTF2.jpg


Yes sir, gen3.

Looks great.  Love the RTF2 and the fish gills.  
Link Posted: 8/12/2011 5:23:08 AM EST



Originally Posted By Chevy_Muscle:


Sorry for the stupid question but my RTF2 pictured below is a Gen3 correct? (not Gen4)



Yes, early GEN3 RTF2.



 
Link Posted: 9/17/2011 8:47:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
Originally Posted By Chevy_Muscle:
Sorry for the stupid question but my RTF2 pictured below is a Gen3 correct? (not Gen4)

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/ChevyMuscle454ss/Glock_RTF2.jpg


Yes sir, gen3.

Looks great.  Love the RTF2 and the fish gills.  


I do too. I would love to find a G21 in that config...
Link Posted: 12/1/2011 10:30:41 AM EST
I know this isn't vital info but you CANNOT convert a glock 17-19-26 into a 22-23-27 the larger barrel will not fit into the slide
I took a buddy shooting and he shot my 23 converted in both 9 and 40 and decided thats what he wanted so when he went to buy one the store clerk told him the only difference in the 23 and 19 is one came with a 9barrel te other with a 40 so he bought the 19 and cannot convert it
Link Posted: 12/25/2011 9:52:27 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/3/2012 1:30:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/3/2012 1:30:57 PM EST by EzGoingKev]
Originally Posted By EdgecrusherXES_45:
Now we come to the trigger connectors Glock makes a variety of different trigger options.

Glock offers a 8#, 5.5#(stock weight), and 3.5# connector (actually 4.5#)

It should be noted that Glock also has the "Dot" connector that I believe has started to come standard in the Gen 4's.

Although Glock only recommends it for the Gen 4 it is being installed in the older pistols and IMO gives the best trigger I have tried so far.
Link Posted: 10/5/2012 12:38:46 PM EST
I found a website that has pretty up-to-date serial number prefixes unlike the dead GlockTalk serial number thread:
http://www.stakhaus.com/
Link Posted: 2/23/2013 12:27:49 PM EST
A magazine comment/question: I have a G17 magazine that is similar to your second of 8 magazines shown on page one.  It has a floorplate with no Glock logo. The floorplate does not accept an insert.  Any idea when the floorplates started getting the logo on them?
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