Posted: 12/14/2014 8:09:50 PM EDT
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I want a 1911 for Xmas. I'm looking at the Remington 1911 R1 with 5in barrel. Will it be a good beginner 1911?
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When's that come out? My only issue is getting one locally. |
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What's your budget? If I had zero 1911's, here would be my choices, depending on budget...I'd get a 5" in the following:
$400 - Rock Island $600 - $800 - Springfield Range Officer or Mil-Spec...perhaps a Loaded. $900 - $1100 - Colt (pick your flavor) $1200 - $1300 - Springfield TRP $1300 - $1600 - Dan Wesson $1600 - $4000 - Semi-Custom of Your Choice I currently have a RIA Government Model, a Colt Wiley Clapp CCO, a Colt Wiley Clap Government, and a Springfield TRP. They're all awesome. |
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I bought a green Remington 1911 once on clearance sale for $250. It had ugly sights, the finish was thin and poorly done, and it wasn't very reliable.
I sold it to a guy who put a bunch of Wilson Combat or Ed Brown (can't remember now) parts in it.....he didn't care much for it either He sold it to a guy who painted it pink and gave it to his girlfriend. Haven't seen it since |
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You can get a Colt 1991 right now for $600 after the $100 main in rebate. It is an amazing price for a great pistol.
http://grabagun.com/colt-1991a1-gi-45acp-5-blue.html Pretty good looking pistol for $600... 
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Quoted: You can get a Colt 1991 right now for $600 after the $100 main in rebate. It is an amazing price for a great pistol. http://grabagun.com/colt-1991a1-gi-45acp-5-blue.html Pretty good looking pistol for $600... http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/chatoisaliar/1991/1991-2.jpg This is a great recommendation. Even if you decide that you want a beavertail safety or different sights, you've got a great American forged base pistol to work with. Springfield would be my other choice, then perhaps S&W, Sig, Ruger or Remington. Can't exactly put my finger on it, but none of those brands twist my knickers (Springer excluded; they're awesome). |
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What's your budget? If I had zero 1911's, here would be my choices, depending on budget...I'd get a 5" in the following: $400 - Rock Island $600 - $800 - Springfield Range Officer or Mil-Spec...perhaps a Loaded. $900 - $1100 - Colt (pick your flavor) $1200 - $1300 - Springfield TRP $1300 - $1600 - Dan Wesson $1600 - $4000 - Semi-Custom of Your Choice I currently have a RIA Government Model, a Colt Wiley Clapp CCO, a Colt Wiley Clap Government, and a Springfield TRP. They're all awesome. Wear would you rank the Kimber 1911 at? Just try to decide between a Kimber 1911 or a CZ. |
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What's your budget? If I had zero 1911's, here would be my choices, depending on budget...I'd get a 5" in the following: $400 - Rock Island $600 - $800 - Springfield Range Officer or Mil-Spec...perhaps a Loaded. $900 - $1100 - Colt (pick your flavor) $1200 - $1300 - Springfield TRP $1300 - $1600 - Dan Wesson $1600 - $4000 - Semi-Custom of Your Choice I currently have a RIA Government Model, a Colt Wiley Clapp CCO, a Colt Wiley Clap Government, and a Springfield TRP. They're all awesome. Well my budget is like $600. Remington is doing a rebate on their 1911 R1 right now. So that why I was interesting in getting a Remington. Most online review of R1 are reasonable good. So what is wrong with the Remington 1911 when compare to other brand like Springfield? |
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I've got an R1 and love it. Granted it's the first 1911 I've shot but I like it.
No malfunctions, great trigger and dead accurate. The only issue I had was where the barrel contacts the frame. I filed the rear of the barrel down on the lower part because the edge was protruding a little and showing it on the frame. Not a big deal but could cause a premature barrel failure. That being said, the Colt is a hell of a deal right now and, well, Colt. I got mine from CDNN. Pretty good prices. Here's the .45 1911 search: CDNN 1911 .45 search |
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This is on my short list 
I have the standard SR1911, and I love it, but this has recently grabbed my attention. |
| I fondled that Colt along with a Springfield Loaded 1911 Parkerized version at my local range when they had them both on sale for black Friday. I really didn't find anything I liked better on the Colt. The trigger wasn't as good, no extended beavertail, no skeletonized trigger or hammer, the finish wasn't as nice, the slide to frame wasn't as tight, the sights were much much worse, and it was a few bucks more. Far too often, people give Colt way too much credit for nothing more than the name IMO. |
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I fondled that Colt along with a Springfield Loaded 1911 Parkerized version at my local range when they had them both on sale for black Friday. I really didn't find anything I liked better on the Colt. The trigger wasn't as good, no extended beavertail, no skeletonized trigger or hammer, the finish wasn't as nice, the slide to frame wasn't as tight, the sights were much much worse, and it was a few bucks more. Far too often, people give Colt way too much credit for nothing more than the name IMO. I guess it's more or less if you want to buy a pistol you can add on quality parts over time rather than purchasing one already setup with decent parts. Springfield's beavertail, trigger, thumb safety, and hammer leave a lot to be desired for those that know 1911's. I would rather have the colt and add on some quality ed brown or cylinder and slide parts over time rather than have something already setup with parts that I don't like all that much. This is not to mention springfield's wacky .220 radius beavertail which makes replacement with a nice beavertail more of a pain. I don't see at all how the springfield ugly parkerizing is nicer than a hot blued gun, but to each his own. I suppose some people just prefer that dry gray look. As for giving colt too much credit, that's not the case. I would rather pay the same price for a forged american gun than a forged brazilian gun any day. The prancing pony is just a bonus. Good luck in your decision op |
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I guess it's more or less if you want to buy a pistol you can add on quality parts over time rather than purchasing one already setup with decent parts. Springfield's beavertail, trigger, thumb safety, and hammer leave a lot to be desired for those that know 1911's. I would rather have the colt and add on some quality ed brown or cylinder and slide parts over time rather than have something already setup with parts that I don't like all that much. This is not to mention springfield's wacky .220 radius beavertail which makes replacement with a nice beavertail more of a pain. Quoted:
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I fondled that Colt along with a Springfield Loaded 1911 Parkerized version at my local range when they had them both on sale for black Friday. I really didn't find anything I liked better on the Colt. The trigger wasn't as good, no extended beavertail, no skeletonized trigger or hammer, the finish wasn't as nice, the slide to frame wasn't as tight, the sights were much much worse, and it was a few bucks more. Far too often, people give Colt way too much credit for nothing more than the name IMO. I guess it's more or less if you want to buy a pistol you can add on quality parts over time rather than purchasing one already setup with decent parts. Springfield's beavertail, trigger, thumb safety, and hammer leave a lot to be desired for those that know 1911's. I would rather have the colt and add on some quality ed brown or cylinder and slide parts over time rather than have something already setup with parts that I don't like all that much. This is not to mention springfield's wacky .220 radius beavertail which makes replacement with a nice beavertail more of a pain. Not sure how that makes any sense. The price of the two is comparable and the Springfield has more features out of the box. What you're saying would make some sense if you couldn't change anything on the Springfield, but you can, and it doesn't cost you anymore, so that point is moot. It beats the Colt in just about every metric out of the box. The finish is admittedly a preference thing, but then there's well... Everything else. |
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Not sure how that makes any sense. The price of the two is comparable and the Springfield has more features out of the box. What you're saying would make some sense if you couldn't change anything on the Springfield, but you can, and it doesn't cost you anymore, so that point is moot. It beats the Colt in just about every metric out of the box. The finish is admittedly a preference thing, but then there's well... Everything else. Quoted:
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I fondled that Colt along with a Springfield Loaded 1911 Parkerized version at my local range when they had them both on sale for black Friday. I really didn't find anything I liked better on the Colt. The trigger wasn't as good, no extended beavertail, no skeletonized trigger or hammer, the finish wasn't as nice, the slide to frame wasn't as tight, the sights were much much worse, and it was a few bucks more. Far too often, people give Colt way too much credit for nothing more than the name IMO. I guess it's more or less if you want to buy a pistol you can add on quality parts over time rather than purchasing one already setup with decent parts. Springfield's beavertail, trigger, thumb safety, and hammer leave a lot to be desired for those that know 1911's. I would rather have the colt and add on some quality ed brown or cylinder and slide parts over time rather than have something already setup with parts that I don't like all that much. This is not to mention springfield's wacky .220 radius beavertail which makes replacement with a nice beavertail more of a pain. Not sure how that makes any sense. The price of the two is comparable and the Springfield has more features out of the box. What you're saying would make some sense if you couldn't change anything on the Springfield, but you can, and it doesn't cost you anymore, so that point is moot. It beats the Colt in just about every metric out of the box. The finish is admittedly a preference thing, but then there's well... Everything else. The springfield and the colt are the same if you plan on replacing the internals on them. Either way you look at it, the colt is a better base gun. The prices are actually not that close at all. You're paying $150 more on average on the springfield for parts that you plan on replacing anyways if you were to customize it yourself. Like I said, if you want something out of the box that you don't want to customize yourself, get the springfield. Me, personally, I like things custom made for myself, not a gun that the guys at Springfield figured would appeal to the greatest numbers of people. This is not to mention the whole brazil vs US made debate. Also, a polished hot blue finish costs a lot more than a parkerized finish. There's a lot of mim parts on the springfield... a few less on the Colt. One last point is the resale value on the Colt is a lot better than the springfield, but I never pay much attention to that as I don't sell any of my guns. |
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I've got an R1 and love it. Granted it's the first 1911 I've shot but I like it. No malfunctions, great trigger and dead accurate. The only issue I had was where the barrel contacts the frame. I filed the rear of the barrel down on the lower part because the edge was protruding a little and showing it on the frame. Not a big deal but could cause a premature barrel failure. That being said, the Colt is a hell of a deal right now and, well, Colt. I got mine from CDNN. Pretty good prices. Here's the .45 1911 search: CDNN 1911 .45 search Those are almost all Paras. 
My only expieriance with 1911s is RIA x3 and Springfield x3 and 1 Llama and 2 complete home builds. I got 1 RIA GI 1911 used and 2 Cimmaron 1911s (made by same company as RIA) all three shoot great. I've never had a single malfunction at all. Not one! I was surprised when I got the RIA at a pawn shop, came home and shot a target and it did a clover leaf group! right on the X. 
Springfields; GI LW Champion. I replaced the ILS MSH. It's OK. Reliability is there, last time I shot it I think it was pretty in accurate. Loaded model, As purchased I coouldn't get through a single stage of fire in a class without breaking out the Leatherman Tool to tighten the 2 piece guide rod that would by then be protruding from the end of the slide. (I replaced it with a GI style) Pre ILS gun, so GTG there. Novack sight (held in by set screw) fell off pretty quick after buying it, re installed with red loktite. Overall a good gun NOW. I carried it for 10~ years and wore off most of the blueing. Mil-Spec. Really nice gun. I replaced the ILS MSH with an Ed Brown snake skin unit (flat). It is a good accurate gun. Only thing really better than a RIA is the bigger blockier sights, if you like that sort of thing. I'm fine with GI sights my self.
Even today, as an advanced 1911 owner/shooter, I'd be looking at RIA, wich I am. I want the polished nickel GI model now. I'd buy a springer if I saw a Mil-Spec stainless locally cheap. I've thought about buying the Ruger High Polish cabelas exclusive. I wouldn't gamble on Taurus, Para or Auto ordanence. I would gamble on a Metro Arms American Classic though. |
| OP said his budget was $600 but does that include doing upgrades down the road? Only reason I ask is that while I like the looks of GI style 1911s they're not as much fun to shoot with those tiny sights. I have an older Colt 80 series that's had a LOT of work done to it, it's a great shooter, but I've always had great luck with Rock Island Armory 1911s and last year I bought a new TAC II. Out of the box it had VZ grips, extended beavertail, ambi safety, full length guide rod, fiber optic front and adjustable rear sights. If you're looking for a platform to upgrade yourself I'd grab one of those Colts pictured in this thread. |
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You can get a Colt 1991 right now for $600 after the $100 main in rebate. It is an amazing price for a great pistol. http://grabagun.com/colt-1991a1-gi-45acp-5-blue.html Pretty good looking pistol for $600... http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f15/chatoisaliar/1991/1991-2.jpg If I were the OP, I'd be all over this! |