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7/19/2024 7:16:55 PM EDT
Picked up a current production Colt Gold Cup in 9mm to go with my 45.

Will test it this weekend for function and accuracy with different ammo.

Some things don't look great at all compared the the older 45.

Not so good:
Large blemish in (I assume) MIM grip safety.
Horrible machining marks on inside of the slide.
Trigger was 7.75 pounds! The 45 is just under 4lb's.
Safety takes a fair amount of effort to engage.
Feed ramp looks 'iffy'.
Magazine has pins (?) in it that I have never seen in a magazine.

The good:
No slide to frame rattle, super tight right now.
Front serrations are nice, none on the 45.

Weight:
45 37.6oz
9mm 40.1oz

I sent the 45 back to Colt years ago for something, forget what. They fixed whatever I sent it in for as well as made the trigger much better and added an arched main spring housing.

With this 9mm should I leave it as is, send to Colt to fix/replace machine marks in slide and grip safety, or drop it off at Nelson Ford? Not crazy about spending more money of this.

Do have matching grips on the way for both.

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With the 45:
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Poorly made MIM (?) drip safety:
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WTF!
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7/19/2024 10:40:59 PM EDT
[#2]
When I saw the thread title, I was  "Oh wow".  after reading the entire post, I'm glad my GCNM is a series 70 .45 acp.
7/19/2024 11:21:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Look at the rear of a 9mm  1911 mag and you'll see a spacer so the rounds fit properly. Some mags are pinned there, others aren't but those pins are used in several different manufacturers including MecGar.
7/19/2024 11:42:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Off topic, but those are some impressive high quality pictures OP.
7/20/2024 1:34:18 PM EDT
[#5]
The grip safety is cast; the mag catch, mag catch lock, sear, and disconnector are the only MIM parts in Colt's 1911s.

My most recent Colt settled into a 6.5lb trigger pull and it was not smooth, so it's off getting the ignition parts replaced now.

Your feed ramp looks fine to me.

The pins in the magazine hold in a spacer that keeps the cartridges forward. 1911s were designed for .45ACP/.38 Super length cartridges and the controlled round feed design is length dependent. Different manufacturers have different ways around this, some use a rib down the front of the body, others use a spacer.

Nice to see your slide/frame fit is tight, my Colt's is not.
7/20/2024 2:18:23 PM EDT
[#6]
Nice pics.  

Made me dig out the 9mm Colt Competition stainless I bought last year and take a closer look at it.  It looks ok.  Some of what looks like machine marks inside the slide but I can't feel anything when I run a finger over them.  Trigger breaks at a little over 4.5 lbs and is pretty smooth.  I can live with it.

The machine marks on the inside of your slide would bug me.  Can you feel them if you run your finger over them or mostly cosmetic?

7/20/2024 3:33:37 PM EDT
[#7]
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iPhone and keep moving the camera and table lamp until it looks good.
7/20/2024 3:35:03 PM EDT
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Nice pics.  

Made me dig out the 9mm Colt Competition stainless I bought last year and take a closer look at it.  It looks ok.  Some of what looks like machine marks inside the slide but I can't feel anything when I run a finger over them.  Trigger breaks at a little over 4.5 lbs and is pretty smooth.  I can live with it.

The machine marks on the inside of your slide would bug me.  Can you feel them if you run your finger over them or mostly cosmetic?

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Yes, can feel the marks inside the slide.
Will see how it does tomorrow but prob going back or to Nelson Ford.
I did get the trigger to 6'ish with some oil. Not the best way but it helped. Would rather be 4lb's or less.
7/20/2024 4:45:12 PM EDT
[#9]
Almost bought the blued version several years ago to go with my 45 as well, but with all the 1911s I have I kept talking myself out of it, boy do I regret that.
7/20/2024 7:00:42 PM EDT
[#10]
The slide machining is terrible; I'd definitely send it back.  I'd also note the casting void in the grip safety & the way heavy trigger.  Give Colt a chance to fix the stuff.
7/21/2024 2:07:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Beside me being out of practice and haven't shot since a righ arm tendon repair 2 months ago, this Colt shot pretty well.

Had 2 failures to fully eject and a few bullet nose dives when trying to feed a round. Rounds looked tilted slightly downward in the magazine.
Other than that it did pretty good with 115, 124, and 147gr rounds. Shot 300'ish rounds.
Did have to add some oil half way in even though I thought I had plenty. Also the magwell is now a bit loose.

Trigger is still heavy!

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7/24/2024 4:07:39 PM EDT
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The slide machining is terrible; I'd definitely send it back.  I'd also note the casting void in the grip safety & the way heavy trigger.  Give Colt a chance to fix the stuff.
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Agree.
7/24/2024 5:15:40 PM EDT
[#13]
Nice OP.
I probably would send it back to have the slide fixed... or do it myself.

I have the 45 version, very good guns for the money.
7/25/2024 3:35:21 AM EDT
[#14]
The machine/tooling marks on the slide and the pitted cast grip safety would be completely unacceptable to me even on a $400 Tisas, much less a $1500 Colt.


Yet another vote here for sending it back to Colt for warranty work. They need to be held accountable and made to fix issues like this. I'd ask them to address the slide tooling marks, replace grip safety, and address the heavy trigger.

The mags are fine and the feed ramp looks fine to me too, but if you're still concerned about it, do a bit more shooting to verify function before you send it back.

7/25/2024 6:20:27 AM EDT
[#15]
I plan to shoot it again then send it back to Colt.
9/29/2024 4:51:38 PM EDT
[#16]
Got it back. They didnt do anything on the inside of the slide. Not crazy about it but it doesn't effect the function.
They did replace the grip safety and improved the trigger.
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Swapped out the grips.
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10/28/2024 3:06:02 AM EDT
[#17]
Still having feeding issues?

My 9mm GCNM was perfect, except for a 6lb trigger that I tuned down to 4.5lbs, and wonky ejection, which was fixed with a minute of extractor tuning.
10/28/2024 5:12:50 AM EDT
[#18]
They are back to the 1990s quality that sucks OP! They are having quality probblems threw out there pistol line.
11/29/2024 10:11:50 PM EDT
[#19]
The slide on my Colt Competition looks the same but doesn’t affect function. Trigger pull was 5 pounds. Stoned the sear hammer interface, 19 pound hammerspring, and adjusted sear spring. Now has a beautiful crisp 3 pound trigger pull.
12/4/2024 8:16:52 PM EDT
[#20]
On the bright side, Colt 1911 owners undoubtedly become their own gunsmiths
12/6/2024 10:28:42 AM EDT
[#21]
Threads like this make me feel less guilty about shopping for foreign 1911s.
12/6/2024 11:45:09 AM EDT
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I've bought 3 Colt 1911s this year.  I've had no big disappointments but I can't deny that the one Tisas I bought is a better value.
12/6/2024 12:54:08 PM EDT
[#23]
My not buying Colt’s will continue, pathetic.

I was sure hoping CZ would straighten these lazy turds out but no dice apparently.

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