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Posted: 5/16/2003 3:53:06 PM EDT
so what's the story about wolf ammo? anyone here shoot it in large amount ? I would like to get some but my local gun store says it's crap! so tell me your experience with it.. thanks,
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:01:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/16/2003 4:11:51 PM EDT by Northern_Winter]
If you clean your firearm on a regular basis ( ie after every time you go shoooting ) then no problems. If you toss it in the closet and get back to it in a month, then you will have problems. - Nw -
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:09:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:22:55 PM EDT
My AR loves the stuff. I usually order it 3000 rounds at a time. I use it for range ammo though and I keep Lake City for SHTF ammo.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:26:44 PM EDT
Wolf? Never heard of it.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:28:21 PM EDT
My AC556K eats that shit like candy but, my AR's don't.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:30:49 PM EDT
I've heard the expression "commie gun - commie ammo" used several times. It seems to be a good rule of thumb. My SKS loves the stuff. Based on all the reports I've seen, I'd stay away from it in more "refined" weapons. [:D]
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:36:19 PM EDT
it goes bang but is inaccurate and dirty. legend has it that the lacquer finish on the steel cases will melt and cause jams, but I've never seen it happen. I just can't see how it's in the chamber in a semi long enough for the lacquer to melt.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:41:30 PM EDT
I'v put over 3k rounds thru my SKS and have had no problems I see nothing wrong with it
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:50:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2003 4:59:50 PM EDT
I've seen the Wolf case's coat the chambers and jam up on ARs. AKs not so bad, though I have heard of it not being user friendly in some AK74's. Everybody is different, but I don't understand why you would pay good money for an AR, then try and shoot the cheapest ammo possible. Better ammo, South African, S&B or Federal is not that much more to buy.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 5:00:27 PM EDT
Right now its $79.95 for 1k rounds and a free t-shirt on http://www.ammunitionstore.com
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 5:12:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/16/2003 5:13:41 PM EDT by gootmacher]
Ive shot thousands of rounds of wolf through my bushmaster with no ill effects, no sticky chambers, no jams. it seems some rifles are picky to what they will feed and function with. i wouldnt blame the ammo for these problems, since a good combat rifle should eat anything you can feed it. mine eats every kind of ammo i have tried. if your in a fire fight in europe and run out of american ammo are u gonna ask the enemy to stop while u go get american ammo? or are u gonna pick up a ak74 and use its ammo. of course bench rifles are excluded from this since tolerances are usually tighter. its laughable when people blame the ammo for the problems they have. i beleive it was wolf ammo that sunk the russian submarine the KURSK
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 6:04:48 PM EDT
I use it all the time in my SKS's and AK's. It's a little dirtier than most ammo, but I never had any problems with it. It's great plinking ammo.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 6:26:52 PM EDT
Wolf is the only thing that I will shoot in my AK now. It doesn't dirty up my AK much at all. That's just my opinion.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 6:43:56 PM EDT
I've only fired wolf in 7.62x54R through my M44 the casings on that is not laquered and it didn't seem dirty
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 7:04:06 PM EDT
I bought 1K rounds and shot 400. It gummed my bolt up pretty bad. I sold the other 600 rds for $35. The new Wolf is not supposed to do that. I shoot reloads now for plinking. I would do as QUIB says, buy a hundred rounds and try it out. If you like it, cool. If you don't, you're not sitting on 900 rds. TS
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 7:07:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By THOF: Right now its $79.95 for 1k rounds and a free t-shirt on http://www.ammunitionstore.com
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Where? Seriously I looked but can't find that price. Please tell me if I missed it.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 7:41:05 PM EDT
Its great plinking ammo. Inexpensive. Its kinda dirty, but if you clean your gun this isnt an issue.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 7:59:31 PM EDT
I have seen 308 listed on the wolf website but I never see it listed for sale anywhere - is it available? Wondering... Brick
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 8:40:08 PM EDT
I shoot it in the sks. Thats it otherwise I avoid it.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 11:37:27 PM EDT
Wolf is cheap not very accurate and very dirty. My Armalite likes Winchester and Federal but Wolf 55 grain seems to jam it. I think it is downloaded to save powder myself.
Link Posted: 5/16/2003 11:47:11 PM EDT
I stopped shooting in about 5 1/2 years ago.. I tried it in my cheap 9mm at a range and it jammed fairly consistently. I went to the counter and switched it with some different ammo and my problems disappeared! Go figure, I figure that it's the ammo on that one.
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 12:47:12 AM EDT
To be on the safe side, leave the Wolf for Kalashnikovs. Use quality stuff like Lake City and IMI in you AR15. [img]photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=476[/img] [url=www.nra.org][b][red]NRA[/red][/url] [url=www.nra.org][blue]Life Member[/blue][/url] [url=www.gunowners.org][b][red]GOA[/red] [/url] [url=www.gunowners.org][blue]Life Member[/blue][/url] [url=www.saf.org][red]SAF[/red][/url] [url=www.saf.org][blue]Supporter[/blue][/url] [url=sas-aim.org][red]SAS[/red][/url] [url=sas-aim.org][blue]Supporter[/blue][/b][/url]
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 1:43:45 AM EDT
Wolf = Stay away Use PMC or Federal for the .223
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 3:15:44 AM EDT
I only use Winchester Q3131A
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 4:15:56 AM EDT
As was pointed out, "commie ammo for commie guns" Well, there's some truth to that...I use Wolf ammo in my Makarov, and used it in a SKS I used to have... No problems..I also had Wolf 9mm ammo blow up a new CZ85 combat in my HAND!!! you haven't lived until you've had that happen!! The CZ had just over 250 rounds ran through it when this happened,Case ruptured by the rim all the gas was diverted down and blew floorplate of the mag out, blew the right saftey lever partly off destroyed the extractor...and partly blew the grips off,I was'nt hurt (thank God) I got in touch with Wolf's American distributor, They went all out and offered to replace the pistol right now, they wanted the blown up one in return, as well as me signing some release papers...OK fine, like I said I was'nt hurt,I wanted my pistol replaced which they did...quickly....needless to say, I won't use it in any thing but a russian designed firearm, that was designed to use it...No thanks...I'll pass on the Wolf...
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 4:54:45 AM EDT
My guns eat the stuff up. It's dirty and it smells. Those are the only cons I can give you about the stuff from personal experiance. As far as accurecy, it holds 1-2 moa@100yards out of MY AR. I've see it do better out of other guns and worse out of other guns. I put 300 rounds downrange after I got my gun back from the shop a few months back. I had the bolt and carrier out of it for the 2+weeks it was gone. I did not put any lube on it when i put the gun back together because I wasn't going to have the chance to shoot it for a few more days. When I went to the range I forgot to give it a shot or 3 of CLP, fired 300 rounds of wolf, not one single problem, none. I also will let the gun go a range session or two before cleaning it and I still don't have problems from the ammo. Thou I do have to say there has got to be some luck involved in that.
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 5:14:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 7:59:00 AM EDT
I always hear that argument- designed for Commie guns. So, I guess that means their guns are better? I shoot a lot of Wolf, never had any problems. My Bushmaster eats it. So does my ruger .45. Great plinking ammo.
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 8:12:05 AM EDT
I feed wolf to my Sks and Ak's only. With reasonable accuracy performance. I tried it ONCE in my bushy. LOCKED her up tight. The accuracy out of my Bushy reminded me of shooting a mini-14. There are many better alternatives out there for use in NON-COMMIE GUNS.
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 8:57:00 AM EDT
iv'e been sitting on 2000 rds for 2 years now. i am afraid to use it. but i am told that anything with a 5.56 nato chamber should eat it right up. while a .223 chamber might have problems.
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 9:07:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By the_survivalist: iv'e been sitting on 2000 rds for 2 years now. i am afraid to use it. but i am told that anything with a 5.56 nato chamber should eat it right up. while a .223 chamber might have problems.
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If yer scared to use it I'll take it off yer hands what cha want for it?
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 11:28:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/17/2003 11:51:41 AM EDT by deadeye47]
We need a WOLF Discussion area just like General Discussion..that way there wouldn't be a thread about it every 3 days like there has been for the past two YEARS...snicker,snicker![nuts] edited to add I use it in my Bushy and have NEVER had any kind of problem WHATSOEVER... I can't say that with Winchester,swiss,PMP and several other brands.....Yes it is dirty...clean the damn thing and get over it!
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 11:37:55 AM EDT
4 or 5 years ago there were bad lots of Wolf ammo that wouldn't cycle in people's ARs. Rounds were underpowered or something. Wolf seems to have corrected the problem since then.
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 11:43:10 AM EDT
come to bulletfest and watch cases of wolf disappear thru subguns and machineguns worth tens of thousands of dollars. i run it in all my toys. fron my $300 kalashnikov's to my anschutz single-shot match rifle to the fast guns...they all eat wolf and barnaul. all my ar's shoot wolf.
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 5:27:39 PM EDT
I shoot greek stuff through my ar, but I was thinking wolf .45 and 9mm for my shtf/trade ammo but also would like to plink with it sometimes. (still worried)
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 5:48:34 PM EDT
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