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12/12/2008 5:04:01 PM EDT
I've heard that using Tannerite is best done within a couple of months of ordering.  Long term can lead to problems (as in too much moisture adsorbtion and no-go-bang).

Has anyone stored it long term?  What methods did you use?

I'm thinking of storing in ammo cans perhaps or some good airtight tupperware with the moisture dessicants and/or the oxygen adsorbers.


Bottom line....I can see this stuff being illegal in the future.....figure I'll get a few pounds now.

12/12/2008 5:05:31 PM EDT
[#1]
how bout just vac seal it.  anyone know what its made of
12/12/2008 5:05:41 PM EDT
[#2]
I think the point of it is that it's legal to mix and use immediately, but mixing and storing it is illegal without adhering to laws regarding manufacture and storage of explosives.
12/12/2008 5:08:02 PM EDT
[#3]
The main ingredient in Tannerite is Ammonium Nitrate. AN is very hygroscopic. Find a way to keep it very dry, and you're in good shape. Once the AN starts clumping up, you're starting to lose the battle.
12/12/2008 5:09:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
I think the point of it is that it's legal to mix and use immediately, but mixing and storing it is illegal without adhering to laws regarding manufacture and storage of explosives.


yeah you can't transport it after it has been mixed.

It is like an IED. Blow it in place.
12/12/2008 5:42:48 PM EDT
[#5]
I've got some in my garage...luckily, AZ is "a dry heat"
12/12/2008 10:00:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Don't plan on mixing.   Just storing the two componants seperately.


Soorrry for the typing......ambian is doing freaky things to the keyboard right now.



12/12/2008 10:09:37 PM EDT
[#7]
I set some off that was 4 years old and it worked fine.  It was stored in my ammo cabinet.
12/12/2008 10:11:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Don't plan on mixing.   Just storing the two componants seperately.


Soorrry for the typing......ambian is doing freaky things to the keyboard right now.






Oh yeah, the ambian high.  You won't remember any of this tomorrow or the additional $100 of tannerite you ordered tomorrow.  Ask me how I know this first hand




ETA: now hides wallet when takes that stuff
12/12/2008 10:12:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
The main ingredient in Tannerite is Ammonium Nitrate. AN is very hygroscopic. Find a way to keep it very dry, and you're in good shape. Once the AN starts clumping up, you're starting to lose the battle.


This.

Vacuum pack it, maybe?  Or store in a container with some sort of dessicant.  Something more hygroscopic than the AN...
12/12/2008 10:24:01 PM EDT
[#10]
How expensive if that stuff?
12/12/2008 10:26:36 PM EDT
[#11]
The stuff I bought and stored got almost rock hard after a couple of months.

I literally had to beat on the plastic bottle with a hammer to get it to unclump when I had to mix it up.
12/12/2008 10:31:37 PM EDT
[#12]
I believe the ammonia nitrate can have the moisture evaporated similar to a decissant/silica package in the oven at temperatures hovering around 200 degrees.


PLEASE correct me if I am wrong.





It's VERY explosive, especially when used under pressure or in an enclosed place.  We were scrapping an old trailer home and stuck 1lb in the oven, locked the oven door, shot through the glass and there was NOTHING remaining of the oven that was recognizable except the burners which were stuck in the ceiling.  It blew the back of the trailer out and wrapped all the aluminum siding around nearby trees. ALL the windows blew out.  It knocked over the fridge, one of those 500lb old time all metal ones, it even buckled the rear end of the trailer about 2 inches.. It took us about 2 hours to clean up the mess.


I have it on 8mm video camera film but can't figure a way to transfer it to computer and upload on youtube.  

3lbs in the open 20 feet from my metal shed was enough to put a 1 foot dent in the backside of the shed and turn the red bricks the tannerite was sitting on into dust.


12/12/2008 10:58:42 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I believe the ammonia nitrate can have the moisture evaporated similar to a decissant/silica package in the oven at temperatures hovering around 200 degrees.


PLEASE correct me if I am wrong.





It's VERY explosive, especially when used under pressure or in an enclosed place.  We were scrapping an old trailer home and stuck 1lb in the oven, locked the oven door, shot through the glass and there was NOTHING remaining of the oven that was recognizable except the burners which were stuck in the ceiling.  It blew the back of the trailer out and wrapped all the aluminum siding around nearby trees. ALL the windows blew out.  It knocked over the fridge, one of those 500lb old time all metal ones, it even buckled the rear end of the trailer about 2 inches.. It took us about 2 hours to clean up the mess.


I have it on 8mm video camera film but can't figure a way to transfer it to computer and upload on youtube.  

3lbs in the open 20 feet from my metal shed was enough to put a 1 foot dent in the backside of the shed and turn the red bricks the tannerite was sitting on into dust.





Do not heat ammonium nitrate unless you have a means of controlling the temperature ACCURATELY.  Normal ovens have hot spots AND with the heating elements under the pan, the radiant heat could exceed stability of the ammonium nitrate.  While small amounts will just make a mess, it doesn't take much molten ammonium nitrate to explode when molten.

Yeah, it melts with about 3% water which is then vaporized in a spray tower that operates at a high vacuum to evaporate the remaining water.

To dry clumped AN, keep it below the melting point and under vacuum.  High vacuum.  It cannot be dried without melting unless you have vacuum.




12/12/2008 11:09:27 PM EDT
[#14]
I wouldent heat that stuff.

Its ammonium nitrate, potassium chlorite, zirconium, and dark aluminum powder.
12/26/2008 10:07:36 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
How expensive if that stuff?



Tannerite from Texas

Let me know if you have any questions, I have some stored.
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