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Posted: 9/30/2013 10:27:29 AM EDT
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go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. Quoted:
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I wasn't aware that Arfcom detested them. go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. A freefloated barrel with a long sight radius and a flashlight out farther forward is of vastly more utility than a bayonet lug. Besides, unless you have a compatible muzzle device, you can't fit the bayonet anyhow. That precludes every suppressor mount on the market I know of, and I'd much rather have a suppressor than a bayonet. So you might as well put the longer rail on there. A handgun makes a better backup weapon than a bayonet anyhow. I'm not saying bayonets are bad at all, but their relatively utility is low. If you can easily add one to a rifle, great, do it. But if not, it isn't a big deal. |
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All else being equal, I will get an AR with a lug. However, there are a lot of other features that I put a priority on over a lug.
If I am ever in a situation where I would put a bayonet to use and don't have one the odds are incredibly high the other guy won't have one either. And I will still have the AR in my hands and will use it as a club. |
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I don't hate them, but in an AR there are very few applications they will work on anyway. 16" mid or 14.5" pinned carbine is pretty much it. I have one gun with a lug that would actually work, except for the fact I have a suppressor and the mount would get in the way.
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A free floated barrel with a long sight radius and a flashlight out farther forward is of vastly more utility than a bayonet lug. Besides, unless you have a compatible muzzle device, you can't fit the bayonet anyhow. That precludes every suppressor mount on the market I know of, and I'd much rather have a suppressor than a bayonet. So you might as well put the longer rail on there. A handgun makes a better backup weapon than a bayonet anyhow. I'm not saying bayonets are bad at all, but their relatively utility is low. If you can easily add one to a rifle, great, do it. But if not, it isn't a big deal. Quoted:
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I wasn't aware that Arfcom detested them. go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. A free floated barrel with a long sight radius and a flashlight out farther forward is of vastly more utility than a bayonet lug. Besides, unless you have a compatible muzzle device, you can't fit the bayonet anyhow. That precludes every suppressor mount on the market I know of, and I'd much rather have a suppressor than a bayonet. So you might as well put the longer rail on there. A handgun makes a better backup weapon than a bayonet anyhow. I'm not saying bayonets are bad at all, but their relatively utility is low. If you can easily add one to a rifle, great, do it. But if not, it isn't a big deal. that make sense so does the proliferation of bull barrels and stainless fluted barrels with no lug |
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A freefloated barrel with a long sight radius and a flashlight out farther forward is of vastly more utility than a bayonet lug. Besides, unless you have a compatible muzzle device, you can't fit the bayonet anyhow. That precludes every suppressor mount on the market I know of, and I'd much rather have a suppressor than a bayonet. So you might as well put the longer rail on there. A handgun makes a better backup weapon than a bayonet anyhow. I'm not saying bayonets are bad at all, but their relatively utility is low. If you can easily add one to a rifle, great, do it. But if not, it isn't a big deal. This exactly. Half the time I come into a thread to make an observation, TrojanMan has beaten me to it, and usually more eloquently stated my point than I would have. 
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go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. Quoted:
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I wasn't aware that Arfcom detested them. go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. Go to the what? 
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go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. Quoted:
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I wasn't aware that Arfcom detested them. go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. That doesn't mean they detest them - it means they configuration can't use it. I have rifles with and without the lug, it not being there has zero bearing on my emotional state toward it. |
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That doesn't mean they detest them - it means they configuration can't use it. I have rifles with and without the lug, it not being there has zero bearing on my emotional state toward it. Quoted:
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I wasn't aware that Arfcom detested them. go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. That doesn't mean they detest them - it means they configuration can't use it. I have rifles with and without the lug, it not being there has zero bearing on my emotional state toward it. my question is why did you choose to go with no lug? the earlier suppressor, or I wanted a different muzzle device |
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go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. Quoted:
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I wasn't aware that Arfcom detested them. go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. While true, people dont post post pics of their "boring" FSB rifles..... Id venture a guess that there are far more ARs with bayo lugs than without...... |
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i think only my ar pistol has a bayo lug and the bbl is too short to put the ring over...
they really are kind of pointless when you have muzzle devices that look like this 
muzzle strikes bitches probably just as effective as a bayo and your gun doesn't get stuck in your foe. |
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i think only may ar pistol has a bayo lug and the bbl is too short to put the ring over... they really are kind of pointless when you have muzzle devices that look like thishttp://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/772/772479.jpg muzzle strikes bitches probably just as effective as a bayo and your gun doesn't get stuck in your foe. Your gun case must love you. 
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i think only may ar pistol has a bayo lug and the bbl is too short to put the ring over... they really are kind of pointless when you have muzzle devices that look like thishttp://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/772/772479.jpg muzzle strikes bitches probably just as effective as a bayo and your gun doesn't get stuck in your foe. Your gun case must love you. I don't have that muzzle and my gun cases get fucked up anyway. That's the least of my concerns. besides you don't really need your muzzle to be sharp it's effective as just a blunt striking weapon. this one would be better on gun case 
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| Because most arfcommers believe they are ineffective in today's battlefield. That'll change if Chris Costa makes a video showing how a bayonet is tier one on today's weapon systems and vital for any platform that is operator worthy. Did I mention operator and tier one? |
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I don't have that muzzle and my gun cases get fucked up anyway. That's the least of my concerns. besides you don't really need your muzzle to be sharp it's effective as just a blunt striking weapon. this one would be better on gun casehttp://zombietacgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/zmtd.jpg Quoted:
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i think only may ar pistol has a bayo lug and the bbl is too short to put the ring over... they really are kind of pointless when you have muzzle devices that look like thishttp://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/772/772479.jpg muzzle strikes bitches probably just as effective as a bayo and your gun doesn't get stuck in your foe. Your gun case must love you. I don't have that muzzle and my gun cases get fucked up anyway. That's the least of my concerns. besides you don't really need your muzzle to be sharp it's effective as just a blunt striking weapon. this one would be better on gun casehttp://zombietacgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/zmtd.jpg  Evil looking
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that make sense so does the proliferation of bull barrels and stainless fluted barrels with no lug Quoted:
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I wasn't aware that Arfcom detested them. go to the tech forums and look over the recent pic threads you will notice a conspicuous absent of the bayonet lug, and alot of very long rails. A free floated barrel with a long sight radius and a flashlight out farther forward is of vastly more utility than a bayonet lug. Besides, unless you have a compatible muzzle device, you can't fit the bayonet anyhow. That precludes every suppressor mount on the market I know of, and I'd much rather have a suppressor than a bayonet. So you might as well put the longer rail on there. A handgun makes a better backup weapon than a bayonet anyhow. I'm not saying bayonets are bad at all, but their relatively utility is low. If you can easily add one to a rifle, great, do it. But if not, it isn't a big deal. that make sense so does the proliferation of bull barrels and stainless fluted barrels with no lug my suppressor mounts to an a2 FH 
i also have a bayo that fits properly on my 16" bbl. |
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i think only may ar pistol has a bayo lug and the bbl is too short to put the ring over... they really are kind of pointless when you have muzzle devices that look like thishttp://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/772/772479.jpg muzzle strikes bitches probably just as effective as a bayo and your gun doesn't get stuck in your foe. Your gun case must love you. I don't have that muzzle and my gun cases get fucked up anyway. That's the least of my concerns. besides you don't really need your muzzle to be sharp it's effective as just a blunt striking weapon. this one would be better on gun casehttp://zombietacgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/zmtd.jpg Evil looking2-3" penetrating hole at best vs 6-8" from a blade that can also slash...... the apple corers are pretty worthless as a weapon imho |
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2-3" penetrating hole at best vs 6-8" from a blade that can also slash...... the apple corers are pretty worthless as a weapon imho Quoted:
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i think only may ar pistol has a bayo lug and the bbl is too short to put the ring over... they really are kind of pointless when you have muzzle devices that look like thishttp://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/primary/772/772479.jpg muzzle strikes bitches probably just as effective as a bayo and your gun doesn't get stuck in your foe. Your gun case must love you. I don't have that muzzle and my gun cases get fucked up anyway. That's the least of my concerns. besides you don't really need your muzzle to be sharp it's effective as just a blunt striking weapon. this one would be better on gun casehttp://zombietacgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/zmtd.jpg Evil looking2-3" penetrating hole at best vs 6-8" from a blade that can also slash...... the apple corers are pretty worthless as a weapon imho But you wont forget it at home 
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