Posted: 12/28/2010 3:34:35 PM EDT
| In regards to a muzzleloader, how important is it to have the quick removable breech plug offered by CVA as opposed to the standard plug as in the TC Impact? I want to buy a muzzleloader and can't decide between the two. Matt |
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Quoted: Why would you want to remove the breechplug? For cleaning. I've never looked at the quick release plugs, but it might be convenient if you shoot it (and thus clean it) a lot. I only break out my muzzleloader a couple times a year, so the quick release plug wouldn't make me much difference. |
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Probably the more important design difference is the break-open actions vs. the open breech inlines. In the rare chance that you ever forget to tighten the breech plug for some reason, the receiver of the break open will prevent the breech plug from being propelled back into your face.
I run an old school inline plunger and am always checking and rechecking the breech plug to make sure it's screwed down tight because of this. Also use anti-seize every time and don't overtighten. |
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Thompson Center has the tool-less breechplug on a few models. The Triumph is one - the other models are the FFL required ones I believe.. I LOVE my Triumph - the breach plug is one of the two reasons i got it, the other is the advertised 3.5# trigger.. Dont have a scale to measure it, BUT for a stock rifle it has a very nice trigger.. Brian |
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Why would you want to remove the breechplug? For cleaning. I've never looked at the quick release plugs, but it might be convenient if you shoot it (and thus clean it) a lot. I only break out my muzzleloader a couple times a year, so the quick release plug wouldn't make me much difference. Cleaning a muzzleloader shouldn't take any longer than cleaning a modern gun. Removing breechplugs regularly...not good, unless the gun is designed to do so. |
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Why would you want to remove the breechplug? For cleaning. I've never looked at the quick release plugs, but it might be convenient if you shoot it (and thus clean it) a lot. I only break out my muzzleloader a couple times a year, so the quick release plug wouldn't make me much difference. Cleaning a muzzleloader shouldn't take any longer than cleaning a modern gun. Removing breechplugs regularly...not good, unless the gun is designed to do so. They're designed to be removed at every cleaning, which is within hours of every time it's been fired or every several rounds if you're bench shooting. You couldn't get all the crud out unless you pulled the breech plug out. |
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Why would you want to remove the breechplug? For cleaning. I've never looked at the quick release plugs, but it might be convenient if you shoot it (and thus clean it) a lot. I only break out my muzzleloader a couple times a year, so the quick release plug wouldn't make me much difference. Cleaning a muzzleloader shouldn't take any longer than cleaning a modern gun. Removing breechplugs regularly...not good, unless the gun is designed to do so. They're designed to be removed at every cleaning, which is within hours of every time it's been fired or every several rounds if you're bench shooting. You couldn't get all the crud out unless you pulled the breech plug out. I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. |
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I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. And you'll never get it out now. 
I'm just following the instruction. Mine says remove breech plug and recoat with anti-seize, so that's what I do. |
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I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. And you'll never get it out now.
I'm just following the instruction. Mine says remove breech plug and recoat with anti-seize, so that's what I do. Mine is not designed for removal.
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I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. And you'll never get it out now.
I'm just following the instruction. Mine says remove breech plug and recoat with anti-seize, so that's what I do. Mine is not designed for removal. I guess you'll just have to throw it away if you ever get a round that won't fire. |
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I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. And you'll never get it out now.
I'm just following the instruction. Mine says remove breech plug and recoat with anti-seize, so that's what I do. Mine is not designed for removal. I guess you'll just have to throw it away if you ever get a round that won't fire. I have a ball puller for that. Funny, but I've never had to use it. <shrug> |
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I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. And you'll never get it out now.
I'm just following the instruction. Mine says remove breech plug and recoat with anti-seize, so that's what I do. Mine is not designed for removal. I guess you'll just have to throw it away if you ever get a round that won't fire. They make bullet pullers for that. Also, you can usually unscrew the nipple and/or the snail cleanout screw and add a few grains of powder to get things moving. |
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I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. And you'll never get it out now.
I'm just following the instruction. Mine says remove breech plug and recoat with anti-seize, so that's what I do. Mine is not designed for removal. I guess you'll just have to throw it away if you ever get a round that won't fire. I have a ball puller for that. Funny, but I've never had to use it. <shrug> Do you ever find yourself needing to clean your scope lenses? |
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I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. And you'll never get it out now.
I'm just following the instruction. Mine says remove breech plug and recoat with anti-seize, so that's what I do. Mine is not designed for removal. I guess you'll just have to throw it away if you ever get a round that won't fire. They make bullet pullers for that. Also, you can usually unscrew the nipple and/or the snail cleanout screw and add a few grains of powder to get things moving. I see. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'v never had the breech plug out of my almost 30 year-old muzzle loader. Hot soapy water gets all the crud out just fine. And you'll never get it out now. I'm just following the instruction. Mine says remove breech plug and recoat with anti-seize, so that's what I do. Mine is not designed for removal. Only time mine ever came out was when I was breeching the barrel to start with However when I do put them together I use a thread sealer which works like an anti-seize. I also use regular anti-seize on the touch hole liner or drum and nipple (depending on the flavor) As far as cleaning I put a bit of carbon killer down the barrel and let it sit about 10min. hit it with the breech brush, then I use a home brew consisting of 90% alcohol, hydrogen peroxide and Murphy's oil soap in a siphon bottle to clean the rest. Then I run down some flannel to make sure it is absolutely dry. Then run a few wonderlube patches down the bore and wipe down the rest of the gun with wonderlube patch. Next time I take it out to shoot, I run a couple dry patches down the bore, then if it is a flint, I will put a charge in the pan to blow out the touch hole, if perc. I snap off a few caps. then load and shoot If I do get one I cannot get to go off, I have a CO2 discharger But, there are some modern ones that are meant to take the plug out. It is ok, as long as the face of the plug and the face of the bore mate up true. This is what make your seal, not the threads or any magic sealer you put on the threads. If for whatever reason you question this seal, take a marker (sharpie) cover the face of the breach plug, tighten it in, then remove it, the marker should be cleaned off where it meets the face of the bore. If it is not, then it needs repair (you can try a new plug and repeat, if it works good. If not, then have it fixed.) |
I usually go with a Bivins style rear sight with a .077" width front blade. ( with a 42" barrel this covers 4" at 50 yards") I have used a full buckhorn on one of my builds. My hunting rifle I modified a set of fiber optic Williams sites for a renegade to fit on a 1" oct. barrel. 
But, I think the answer your looking for is a Scope. Neighbor has a Nikon Omega on his Encore. Looks like a nice scope, he's happy with it. I have a couple Nikons on my rifles, I am happy with those.
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Any recommendations for optics? Matt Several companies have nice ones, I like the Burris that compensates for drop out to 300 yds. Also I would recommend the Savage ML as it shoots smokeless powder and only has to be cleaned at the end of the season. I have fired over 115 rds before cleaning before and it could have shot more without a problem. |
| Modern stuff. I'll settle for a Parker Hale Enfield rifle. With a 535 grain minie propelled by 60 grains FF, it will hit accurately out to 500 yards. It was the weapon of choice for the Confederate sharpshooter (except for their sniper types who would use the Whitworth or Kerr). |