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6/6/2006 6:41:57 PM EDT
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6/6/2006 6:43:56 PM EDT
[#1]
so your the guy.
6/6/2006 6:45:17 PM EDT
[#2]
You'd smell it if it was.
6/6/2006 6:45:24 PM EDT
[#3]
Might be using....
6/6/2006 6:46:14 PM EDT
[#4]
If he is making meth, you will smell a chemical odor like either where it's being cooked.

Check the trash for psuedoephedrin wrappers and chemical containers if you're really worried..
6/6/2006 6:46:25 PM EDT
[#5]
Damn dude, if THAT was the only problem we had with our neighbors, we would be in heaven.

Unless he is making noise that is keeping you awake,
or his dog is crapping in your yard, etc., why care?  
6/6/2006 6:47:07 PM EDT
[#6]
Sounds fishy
6/6/2006 6:48:07 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Damn dude, if THAT was the only problem we had with our neighbors, we would be in heaven.

Unless he is making noise that is keeping you awake,
or his dog is crapping in your yard, etc., why care?  



I'll trade him neighbors......
6/6/2006 6:48:39 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Damn dude, if THAT was the only problem we had with our neighbors, we would be in heaven.

Unless he is making noise that is keeping you awake,
or his dog is crapping in your yard, etc., why care?  



I don't care in the way you think, it's just strange that he's so paranoid.  Our first thought was that he was a fence considering all the crap he brings home.  Trust me, he's up to no good, I just don't know what.
6/6/2006 6:49:27 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Damn dude, if THAT was the only problem we had with our neighbors, we would be in heaven.

Unless he is making noise that is keeping you awake,
or his dog is crapping in your yard, etc., why care?  



Cuz he might screw up and blow the meth lab up, taking out the nearby houses.
6/6/2006 6:49:33 PM EDT
[#10]
If you can peek in the garage somehow, see if the walls have changed color.  Usually a pink or reddish tint.  Side effect of the cookin'.  And you'd definitely smell it in the air.  A guy I went to high school with got busted with a couple other clowns for cookin' meth in a hotel of all places.
6/6/2006 6:49:35 PM EDT
[#11]
maybe he is a vampire?

no?
6/6/2006 6:50:43 PM EDT
[#12]
So I see that Mrs Kravitz had a son.



6/6/2006 6:51:05 PM EDT
[#13]
Vampires???
6/6/2006 6:51:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Well, if you see any of these signs, give your local LEO a call.  It might help develop PC for a warrant.  Some of the newer techniques for manufacture don't make much odor, etc., but the chemicals and risk of fire are just as deadly:

What are signs of a meth lab?
A typical meth lab is a collection of chemical bottles, hoses, and pressurized cylinders. The cylinders can take many forms, from modified propane tanks to fire extinguishers, scuba tanks and soda dispensers. The tanks contain anhydrous ammonia or hydrochloric acid ? both highly poisonous and corrosive.

Labs are frequently abandoned, and the potentially explosive and very toxic chemicals are left behind. Chemicals may also be burned or dumped in woods or along roads.

The most common chemicals used to start the meth-making process are over-the-counter cold and asthma medications which contain ephedrine or pseudoephedrine as decongestants or stimulants.

Here are signs of a meth lab:

* Unusual strong chemical odors such as ether, ammonia (smell similar to cat urine) and acetone (smells similar to fingernail polish)
* Excess amounts of cold medicines containing Ephedrine or pseudoephedrine * Empty pill bottles or blister packs
* Propane/Freon tanks with blue corrosion on fittings or spray-painted or burned, with bent or tampered valves
* Starting fluid cans opened from the bottom
* Heating sources such as hotplates/torches
* Excess coffee filters
* Excess baggies
* Excess matches
* Excess lithium batteries
* Cookware (Corning type) with white residue
* Glassware, Mason jars or other glass containers
* Plastic tubing
* Funnels
* Hoses leading outside for ventilation
* Soft drink bottles with hoses running from them
* Drain cleaner, paint thinner, toluene, denatured alcohol, ammonia, acid, starter fluid, antifreeze, hydrogen peroxide, rock salt/iodine
* Lantern or camp stove fuel


* Iodine- or chemical-stained bathrooms or kitchen fixtures
* Evidence of chemical waste or dumping
* Excessive amounts of trash, particularly chemical containers, coffee filters with red stains, duct tape rolls, Empty cans of or paint thinner or pieces of red-stained cloth around the property
* Secretive or unfriendly occupants
* Extensive security measures or attempts to ensure privacy such as "No Trespassing" or "Beware of Dog" signs, fences, and large trees or shrubs
* Curtains always drawn or windows blackened or covered with aluminum foil on residences, garages, sheds, or other structures
* Increased activity, especially at night
* Frequent visitors, particularly at unusual times
* Renters who pay their landlords in cash


I had a meth lab 2 doors down from me when I lived in St. Louis.  It was fun getting awakened one night by the sound of a raid.  Drove the dog NUTS, but I loved it!
6/6/2006 6:52:07 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm not implying he's doing it in the garage though.  I just said that because it's just another strange behavior.  If he's doing anything it's inside.
6/6/2006 6:52:34 PM EDT
[#16]
Call the cops and have them check him out.
6/6/2006 6:53:24 PM EDT
[#17]
How to determine if your neighbor is a meth maker:

Get a bow and some arrows.  Wrap a cloth anound the end of the arrows and secure it with a string.  Pour kerosene/gas/something flamable onto the cloth.  Light on fire.  Shoot arrow into garage.

If the place blows, he does.  If it does not, he does not. And try to blame it on someone else.

Make sure to take pics/vids and post em here.



Disclaimer: I do not recomend doing this so DONT do it.  


6/6/2006 6:55:07 PM EDT
[#18]
A WP grenade in the garage will answer your question.
6/6/2006 6:55:51 PM EDT
[#19]
Ya know...  you could go over and ask him what he is doing.

6/6/2006 6:56:09 PM EDT
[#20]
Might just be a tweek.  That's what they do.

As far as manufacturing, look for the above clues and notify LE of you have suspicions.  I would not look through their trash or peek around their house.  If they are cooking, they might just take exception to that.  
6/6/2006 6:56:44 PM EDT
[#21]
The reason I'm suspicious is because a friend of mine who used to live in Prescott had a neighbor get raided for meth and major firearms/explosives charges.  In passing, I told him about this neighbor and his strange behaviour and he said it was just like his neighbors before he moved and the place was raided.  He never knew that's what they did until it happened.

ETA:  Sounds like he's a user more than anything then.  Believe me when I say I don't just watch every little thing that goes on around here, but when you're trying to watch your favorite program on TV and he's outside banging on the trash can for 45 minutes, you get a little annoyed.
6/6/2006 7:06:13 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Ya know...  you could go over and ask him what he is doing.





Make sure you take him a beer if you do.
6/6/2006 7:07:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Going over there and snoping is a good way to get dead regardless of what he is doing in the house.


What is your goal? To find out what he is up to. Get hime out of there?
6/6/2006 7:08:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Short answer is yes, and you will become adicted by the fumes.

Good Luck.
6/6/2006 7:08:56 PM EDT
[#25]
Go ask for a cup of sugar.
6/6/2006 7:09:33 PM EDT
[#26]
He's better prepared for Zombies than you are.
6/6/2006 7:10:04 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Go ask for a cup of Sudafed.


Fixed
6/6/2006 7:19:58 PM EDT
[#28]
Does it smell like cat piss there?
6/6/2006 7:20:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Turn him in with Meth Lab Monday
6/6/2006 7:44:15 PM EDT
[#30]
Meth or a version of Damher
6/6/2006 7:47:29 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
If he is making meth, you will smell a chemical odor like either where it's being cooked.

Check the trash for psuedoephedrin wrappers and chemical containers if you're really worried..



+10

ive got friends who are firefighters who go on call to meth raids and they say to can smell the shit houses away
6/6/2006 7:47:56 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:

* Excess lithium batteries



6/6/2006 7:50:21 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:

* Excess lithium batteries






I've only got about 6 or 7 boxes of 123A's lying around.
6/6/2006 7:52:49 PM EDT
[#34]
forgot to mention that most meth labs are in RENTAL properties lately...
6/6/2006 7:56:21 PM EDT
[#35]
Lithium, Anhydrous Ammonia, and pseudoephedrine are the 3 main components of crystal methamphetamine produced by the so-called "Nazi Method" which was developed by the Germans during WWII.
6/6/2006 8:01:07 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
How to determine if your neighbor is a meth maker:

Get a bow and some arrows.  Wrap a cloth anound the end of the arrows and secure it with a string.  Pour kerosene/gas/something flamable onto the cloth.  Light on fire.  Shoot arrow into garage.

If the place blows, he does.  If it does not, he does not. And try to blame it on someone else.

Make sure to take pics/vids and post em here.



Disclaimer: I do not recomend doing this so DONT do it.  


Shoot some incendiary or tracer rounds into his place and see what happens.
6/6/2006 8:01:11 PM EDT
[#37]
Is his last name Klopek?  See the Tom Hanks movie "The Burbs".

6/6/2006 8:21:29 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
Is his last name Klopek?  See the Tom Hanks movie "The Burbs".




Best dig up near the furnance

...but in all seriousness, give the cops a call, can't hurt...better than the alternative in which case he might blow the neighborhood up when his tweaked out girlfriend torches the lab thinking shes cooking dinner.
6/6/2006 8:30:36 PM EDT
[#39]
12 years ago when I was a newly graduated college pup, I came home to a nice collection of Sheriff's cars and vans.  My rental at the time butted up to within 3 feet of a 20 foot high storage fence.

For reasons that I have yet to learn, they were there because a COMPLETE portable meth lab was found between my south wall and the 3 foot space to the storage fence.

I walked up to the house (so ignorant that I didn't in the least expect to get thrown down to the ground as the "lab" owner) and met with a plainclothes guy.  After taking my ID he told me that they had a portable lab stashed and that I wasn't a suspect.

To this day I have no idea who put that shit there, how they knew I wasn't involved (not so much as a "do you know how this might have gotten there?") or anything.

I knew then that these fucking dope fiends are the scum of the Earth.  The way I figure it, I could have gone down just as easy for that shit even though I didn't know of its existence until I pulled in the driveway.
6/6/2006 8:33:58 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
12 years ago when I was a newly graduated college pup, I came home to a nice collection of Sheriff's cars and vans.  My rental at the time butted up to within 3 feet of a 20 foot high storage fence.

For reasons that I have yet to learn, they were there because a COMPLETE portable meth lab was found between my south wall and the 3 foot space to the storage fence.

I walked up to the house (so ignorant that I didn't in the least expect to get thrown down to the ground as the "lab" owner) and met with a plainclothes guy.  After taking my ID he told me that they had a portable lab stashed and that I wasn't a suspect.

To this day I have no idea who put that shit there, how they knew I wasn't involved (not so much as a "do you know how this might have gotten there?") or anything.

I knew then that these fucking dope fiends are the scum of the Earth.  The way I figure it, I could have gone down just as easy for that shit even though I didn't know of its existence until I pulled in the driveway.



Maybe someone was trying to set a neighbor up or something. Dunno.
6/6/2006 8:35:34 PM EDT
[#41]
Is he putting large bags out in the trash, this sounds like the Tom Hanks movie The Burbs.
6/6/2006 8:37:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Smells?
Garbage?
6/6/2006 8:38:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Use a flshbang that will tell you!! Ok just don't have your family need it when you throw it. If there not it will scare the shit out of them.
6/6/2006 8:42:10 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
Lithium, Anhydrous Ammonia, and pseudoephedrine are the 3 main components of crystal methamphetamine produced by the so-called "Nazi Method" which was developed by the Germans during WWII.



Somebody has been studying.

6/6/2006 8:42:34 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
Unless he is making noise that is keeping you awake,
or his dog is crapping in your yard, etc., why care?  



Meth labs occasionally go KABOOM! (Meth is a subsidy of Glock... J/K)

If you live near the KABOOM, it's a lot worse than a barking dog.
6/6/2006 8:43:40 PM EDT
[#46]
If you suspect a dwelling or property may be an illegal lab, contact the police or sheriff's department or call the Arizona Methamphetamine hotline at 1-877-787-6384. If it’s an emergency, call 911. Do not enter a site that you think may have been used for cooking meth. Meth labs present extreme dangers from explosions and exposure to hazardous chemicals. Breathing the fumes and handling substances can cause injury and even death. Meth labs are considered hazardous waste sites and should only be entered by trained and equipped emergencyresponse professionals.
6/6/2006 8:44:51 PM EDT
[#47]
Maybe he's just constructing a killdozer.
6/6/2006 8:52:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Maybe he's just insane. That could be it too.
6/6/2006 8:53:04 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Damn dude, if THAT was the only problem we had with our neighbors, we would be in heaven.

Unless he is making noise that is keeping you awake,
or his dog is crapping in your yard, etc., why care?  



Cuz he might screw up and blow the meth lab up, taking out the nearby houses.



Can somebody please post a true account of that actually happening?

I hear about NG and Propane blowing up real estate all the time, but I have never read of a methlab blowing up with enough force to destroy adjacent houses.  Is this a real threat or an urban legend?





I always thought Misery loved company.  btw- the guy next door might be building EBR's or loading ammo.      
6/6/2006 8:54:42 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
The only company he ever has is this one older broad who looks like she's always drugged up, skinny as hell, and your typical meth user appearance.  Everyone once and awhile he'll have someone over that's real trashy looking, like he is.



I would say that this guy - while probably a user - is not cooking.

We've had cookers/dealers in my neighborhood and you can definitely tell what's going on because of the non-stop traffic.  There were cars lined up down the street like a McDonald's drive through, and every night when I came home from school I actually had to stop, get out of my car, and draw down on the tweakers milling around in front of my house to make them scatter so I could pull into my own driveway.

If this guy was anything except a single end user, your block would be absolutely overrun with tweakers day and night.
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