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Posted: 9/19/2004 7:36:57 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/18/2004 9:08:55 AM EST by AMHsix]
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Link Posted: 9/20/2004 4:42:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 4:44:26 AM EST by M4]
If it's not made here, they're not being imported. I don't know of anyone fitting these guns with the proper amount of domestic parts to legally sell'em. Then again, they weren't exactly the most popular weapon when they were allowed in. Never fired one, so I personally don't know.

They do have an interesting 50 round mag. Can't quite remember what it was about it, but it was an interesting design....don't think it was the regular double stack type....could be wrong.

Great help I'vbe been, you can thank me later.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 4:46:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 4:48:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 4:54:22 AM EST by DriftPunch]
I've got a KBI import 9mm. It's great for a collector because it's as close to the SMG as you can legally get. However, it's kind of silly otherwise as it's an overgrown heavy poorly balanced pistol. Sweet as SMG, weird as pistol.

Don't expect a domestic producer either. The Italians make some complicated stuff, and you don't want to see the results of a Hesse attempt at production.

For the record the Spectre has a few unique features:

1. Sinusoidal Rifling (probably misspelled). A verson of poly...

2. Decock leading to double action. When the decock lever is pushed, the striker runs forward as if to fire, but runs into a bar that gets inserted between in and the bolt so it never reaches the cartridge. In this condition, the next pull of the trigger will pull the striker back to the firing position and release it. All shots are single action unless it was decocked, when it becomes double for the first one. This was designed as a police requirement stating that the weapon had to be absolutely safe, but quickly usable. This is the same requirement that lead to the HK squeeze cocker.

3. 4 into 2 into 1 magazine. (Difficult to load)
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 4:49:51 AM EST
Wasn't it a triple stack magazine?

I fired one, wasn't all that impressed.
but the mags were a neato idea.



Chris
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 4:55:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By virginia22:
Wasn't it a triple stack magazine?

I fired one, wasn't all that impressed.
but the mags were a neato idea.



Chris


4 columns that narrow to 2 which narrow again to 1 at the lips.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 5:15:38 AM EST
it was 4. gotcha.

pretty innovative idea.

chris
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:14:31 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2004 1:55:22 PM EST by AMHsix]
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Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:17:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 6:18:23 AM EST by Lightning_P38]
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 7:39:52 AM EST
When I first saw the title this is what I thought at first.



If they were I would buy one.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:02:36 AM EST
Spectres and Steyp SPP's were stopped by Clinton in the 1990's with an exectuive order. Since they were pistols, they were a loophole in the '89 import ban.

Scott (SPP owner) :)
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 8:55:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 8:56:04 AM EST by hepcat85]

Originally Posted By M1-Matt:
When I first saw the title this is what I thought at first.



If they were I would buy one.



PAYPAL sent!

No shipping, right? It's its own OVERNIGHT AIRMAIL.

"If it has to be there and destroy the target by the next day"
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:21:27 AM EST
Don't know but my buddy has .45 one sitting in the case he might be geting rid of . Anybody know what one in %99 is worth these days?

Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:29:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By virginia22:
Wasn't it a triple stack magazine?

I fired one, wasn't all that impressed.
but the mags were a neato idea.



Chris


4 columns that narrow to 2 which narrow again to 1 at the lips.



I got 1 of those mags! Got it in a box of misc mags I picked up. I never tried to find out what gun it fit, but now I know!
CH
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:35:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
Pistols are indeed viewed differently than rifles as far as importation, but there are a lot of screwey caveats for importing pistols thanks the the GCA of 68, if I recall correctly.

Edited to add: If they were cheap enough I would buy one, it would look real nice sitting beside my MAC.



Makarovs have to be imported with a thumbrest to be considered a target pistol since they are so small.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 9:37:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:

Originally Posted By virginia22:
Wasn't it a triple stack magazine?

I fired one, wasn't all that impressed.
but the mags were a neato idea.



Chris


4 columns that narrow to 2 which narrow again to 1 at the lips.



I got 1 of those mags! Got it in a box of misc mags I picked up. I never tried to find out what gun it fit, but now I know!
CH

They are pretty valuable. The most common is 9mm, but they are still expensive. I have two 30s, and one 50, so I don't need one, but I imagine you could sell it for a good bit. Even if someone was willing to try, I wouldn't trust one if it wasn't made by SITES. They are just too freakish.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 11:26:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By DriftPunch:
They are pretty valuable. The most common is 9mm, but they are still expensive. I have two 30s, and one 50, so I don't need one, but I imagine you could sell it for a good bit. Even if someone was willing to try, I wouldn't trust one if it wasn't made by SITES. They are just too freakish.



It is marked SITES I remember that. I will dig it out when I get home.

CH
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 12:26:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 12:27:09 PM EST by jimmyjoebob]
cape if you want to sell it let me know I got a 9mm that is needing and extra mag

TIA
James


forgot to mention sites went belly up in like 97, so no more are made.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 2:24:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 2:27:48 PM EST by brentwal]

Originally Posted By hepcat85:

Originally Posted By M1-Matt:
When I first saw the title this is what I thought at first.

http://www.janis.com/jpgs/spectre_ac130.jpg

If they were I would buy one.hr


PAYPAL sent! hipping,
"If it has to be there and destroy the target by the next day"



GROUP BUY!!!!
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 5:56:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By jimmyjoebob:
cape if you want to sell it let me know I got a 9mm that is needing and extra mag

TIA
James


forgot to mention sites went belly up in like 97, so no more are made.



IM inbound
CH
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:04:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/22/2004 6:08:58 PM EST by Lockedon]
thats a REALLY fucking heavy pistol...


But it looks so deliciously evil, I'd get one for the right price...


ETA, where can I find a CCW holster for that?
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 6:06:45 PM EST
I'm the only known example.
There can be only one.
Link Posted: 9/22/2004 11:06:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By brentwal:

Originally Posted By hepcat85:

Originally Posted By M1-Matt:
When I first saw the title this is what I thought at first.

www.janis.com/jpgs/spectre_ac130.jpg

If they were I would buy one.



PAYPAL sent!

No shipping, right? It's its own OVERNIGHT AIRMAIL.

"If it has to be there and destroy the target by the next day"



GROUP BUY!!!!


Actually, there is no import fees. Made in the US of A.

However, the miniguns, Bofor's 40mm's, and the 105mm Howitzer may set you back with all the red tape and NFA fees.
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