Posted: 8/30/2011 11:17:15 AM EDT
| Been on a first 48 marathon, here is my question why dont they lawyer up? |
| Not a show I watch much, but I've seen a bit while flipping channels. I recall at least one suspect who kept saying "I don't know nothin' about nothin'" over and over to the various questions. The cops sighed and let him go. I didn't see the end so I don't know if he was the guy and was smart enough to STFU, or whether he was not involved. |
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My guess, having never seen the show, is that the great majority of suspects are imbecilic cretins. I also agree with this, but if they have been through the system so much why do they talk? They think they're smarter than the cops. Yep. And, for some strangely self-destructive reason, they're always dying to tell someone what they did. Even if "someone" is the cops. |
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My guess, having never seen the show, is that the great majority of suspects are imbecilic cretins. I also agree with this, but if they have been through the system so much why do they talk? They think they're smarter than the cops. Yep. And, for some strangely self-destructive reason, they're always dying to tell someone what they did. Even if "someone" is the cops. The cops have one real tactic..."Why don't you just tell us your side of the story?" parlayed about 15 ways. Though, a criminal defense attorney of mine was representing a divorce attorney, and pre-briefed the divorce attorney "Do not say a fucking word." As soon as the cops started the whole "Why don't you tell us what happened..." the divorce attorney starts talking! In a society like the US, there is a combination of respect for law enforcement (after a fashion) and the natural desire of people to explain their story that jams most people up. |
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People like to talk, especially about themselves. One trick I had when I was in the collection/loan liquidation business (not the same but close) was ask a question and then sit there silently. After a minute or two most people start to talk, they hate silence. Pretty soon they've told me everthing I needed.
And some of them do lawyer up. About a third of them, probably the frequent flyers. Love that show. |
LOL....A local gun shop has a ad in "Crime Times". It's a local publication and the front page is full of mug-shots of local half-wit criminals and dead-beats convicted of mostly low-end crimes. One of them (let's call her KimKisha) called the gun shop (all indignant) asking how she could get her pic removed off the front page of Crime Times. I have it on good authority she was told to not break the law. 
Those idiots are too stupid to even call the right number much less bring suit.. The shop has fielded a few such calls. I guess they did not get the hint when the counter person answered the phone with "Hello...XYZ Gun Shop how can I help you today". 
That said I sort of question the wisdom to place a ad in there in the first place. Good for laughs though. |
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I find it funny how they have to have a voice over to translate what is being said by the suspects. They do the same thing on "Swamp People" and "Country Truckers". And movies from Scotland. I lived in Scotland for four years. When I first arrived there, I could understand about 25% of what they were saying. When I left, I could understand about 50%. "Aye, its jest a wee but up the brae." |
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My guess, having never seen the show, is that the great majority of suspects are imbecilic cretins. I also agree with this, but if they have been through the system so much why do they talk? They think they're smarter than the cops. Yep. And, for some strangely self-destructive reason, they're always dying to tell someone what they did. Even if "someone" is the cops. The cops have one real tactic..."Why don't you just tell us your side of the story?" parlayed about 15 ways. Though, a criminal defense attorney of mine was representing a divorce attorney, and pre-briefed the divorce attorney "Do not say a fucking word." As soon as the cops started the whole "Why don't you tell us what happened..." the divorce attorney starts talking! In a society like the US, there is a combination of respect for law enforcement (after a fashion) and the natural desire of people to explain their story that jams most people up. Back in the day, I told assholes in my car, "Shut up. I'm not writing down what you say, and I don't want to be dragged into your shit." Last thing you want to do as a cop is "get involved." |
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Been on a first 48 marathon, here is my question why dont they lawyer up? It would sort of kill the entertainment value. I would bet anyone who lawyers up immediately is not going to make it onto the TV show. It is NOT actually real since you only see selected cases. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Been on a first 48 marathon, here is my question why dont they lawyer up? It would sort of kill the entertainment value. I would bet anyone who lawyers up immediately is not going to make it onto the TV show. It is NOT actually real since you only see selected cases. Sometimes they show the guy lawyering up and putting the brakes on everything. Quite a few of the suspects end up getting off. |
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My guess, having never seen the show, is that the great majority of suspects are imbecilic cretins. I also agree with this, but if they have been through the system so much why do they talk? They think they're smarter than the cops. to a small extent, yes, however, they also know that of the Fess' up they'll get a lesser sentence. Pleading out generally drops the charges a degree or two..usually enough to keep them off of death row. |
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This show made me realize how BS stuff like CSI really is. How many cases involve tracking down someone in another country because of a micro fiber from a rare alpaca watch band etc? They catch the vast majority of killers because nobody can keep their mouth shut. Even if they don't have the killer, they have someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows what happened, and it always leads back.
I've even seen episodes of 48 where the detectives mocked CSI and shows like it. In Miami a pair of detectives were joking about running a bloody footprint through the "tennis shoe database". |
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Quoted: This show made me realize how BS stuff like CSI really is. How many cases involve tracking down someone in another country because of a micro fiber from a rare alpaca watch band etc? They catch the vast majority of killers because nobody can keep their mouth shut. Even if they don't have the killer, they have someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows what happened, and it always leads back. I've even seen episodes of 48 where the detectives mocked CSI and shows like it. In Miami a pair of detectives were joking about running a bloody footprint through the "tennis shoe database". I know of one group of detectives that 'hooked' a guy up to a copy machine and told him it was a lie detector. Every time he answered a question the copier would print "LIAR". They got a confession. Like I said, jails are full of stupid people. |
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My guess, having never seen the show, is that the great majority of suspects are imbecilic cretins. I also agree with this, but if they have been through the system so much why do they talk? They think they're smarter than the cops. to a small extent, yes, however, they also know that of the Fess' up they'll get a lesser sentence. Pleading out generally drops the charges a degree or two..usually enough to keep them off of death row. A lawyer brought in before they open thier mouths can usually do better than that. |
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This show made me realize how BS stuff like CSI really is. How many cases involve tracking down someone in another country because of a micro fiber from a rare alpaca watch band etc? They catch the vast majority of killers because nobody can keep their mouth shut. Even if they don't have the killer, they have someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows what happened, and it always leads back. I've even seen episodes of 48 where the detectives mocked CSI and shows like it. In Miami a pair of detectives were joking about running a bloody footprint through the "tennis shoe database". I know of one group of detectives that 'hooked' a guy up to a copy machine and told him it was a lie detector. Every time he answered a question the copier would print "LIAR". They got a confession. Like I said, jails are full of stupid people.  I hope there is video of this.
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I have always wondered why the BGs always start to tuck themselves into their shirts like a turtle. So funny how this happens time after time. First it starts with the arms into the shirt sleeves. Then they pull up their T-shirt collar over their head( much like when you are trying to block out a fart or bad smell ). Never understood it, but the detectives pick up on it, and know they are hiding something.
Most shows I've seen, the person of interest usually digs them self into a hole they can't get out of. 9/10 they fully cooperate even after being told of what their rights are. |
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Quoted: Quoted: This show made me realize how BS stuff like CSI really is. How many cases involve tracking down someone in another country because of a micro fiber from a rare alpaca watch band etc? They catch the vast majority of killers because nobody can keep their mouth shut. Even if they don't have the killer, they have someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows what happened, and it always leads back. I've even seen episodes of 48 where the detectives mocked CSI and shows like it. In Miami a pair of detectives were joking about running a bloody footprint through the "tennis shoe database". I know of one group of detectives that 'hooked' a guy up to a copy machine and told him it was a lie detector. Every time he answered a question the copier would print "LIAR". They got a confession. Like I said, jails are full of stupid people. They did that on "The Wire". |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This show made me realize how BS stuff like CSI really is. How many cases involve tracking down someone in another country because of a micro fiber from a rare alpaca watch band etc? They catch the vast majority of killers because nobody can keep their mouth shut. Even if they don't have the killer, they have someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows what happened, and it always leads back. I've even seen episodes of 48 where the detectives mocked CSI and shows like it. In Miami a pair of detectives were joking about running a bloody footprint through the "tennis shoe database". I know of one group of detectives that 'hooked' a guy up to a copy machine and told him it was a lie detector. Every time he answered a question the copier would print "LIAR". They got a confession. Like I said, jails are full of stupid people. They did that on "The Wire". I've never heard of the wire. This Xerox thing happened around 1997. |
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My guess, having never seen the show, is that the great majority of suspects are imbecilic cretins. I also agree with this, but if they have been through the system so much why do they talk? They think they're smarter than the cops. Yep. And, for some strangely self-destructive reason, they're always dying to tell someone what they did. Even if "someone" is the cops. The cops have one real tactic..."Why don't you just tell us your side of the story?" parlayed about 15 ways. Though, a criminal defense attorney of mine was representing a divorce attorney, and pre-briefed the divorce attorney "Do not say a fucking word." As soon as the cops started the whole "Why don't you tell us what happened..." the divorce attorney starts talking! In a society like the US, there is a combination of respect for law enforcement (after a fashion) and the natural desire of people to explain their story that jams most people up. Back in the day, I told assholes in my car, "Shut up. I'm not writing down what you say, and I don't want to be dragged into your shit." Last thing you want to do as a cop is "get involved." I'm confused...does "assholes" refer to people who were sitting in the front seats or back? |
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Its like that new show on tv, Take the money and run. All those people have to do is hide 100K and keep their mouth shut for 48 hours and as long as the cops don't find it they get to keep it. Half of the players can't shut the fuck up. The guy last night told the detective where it was. Its annoying as shit. I hate that show.
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Back in the day, I told assholes in my car, "Shut up. I'm not writing down what you say, and I don't want to be dragged into your shit." Last thing you want to do as a cop is "get involved." Why? Don't you like getting notified for court and tour changed 15 times for one arrest that goes to trial? 
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