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4/3/2014 10:20:48 AM EDT
is it that at 18 years of age you can fight for your country, subject to all adult criminal prosecutions, and voter among many other things but you cannot buy a beer? Are they not responsible enough to drink but responsible enough to elect our very leaders.  Why is it that a beating heart of a baby in the womb does not constitute life but a single organism on Mars does? Will the FSA (free shit army) ever be defeated. Feel free to add what bugs you today.
4/3/2014 10:21:25 AM EDT
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did you feel the need to start this thread?
4/3/2014 10:21:55 AM EDT
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You're not even allowed to carry a weapon on base in the US. The responsibility to kill is below the responsibility to purchase alcohol dude!
4/3/2014 10:23:47 AM EDT
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Because the feds threatened to hold out on highway building money if the states didn't comply with the new drinking age.

Personally though, I think you should be 21 to serve and vote too.
4/3/2014 10:26:32 AM EDT
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It was tried back in the 70's.
Pretty much demonstrated that lowering the drinking age to 18 just resulted in more young males wrapping their cars around trees.
4/3/2014 10:33:48 AM EDT
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Why cant McDonalds serve breakfast after 10:30am? That shit really ruffles my jimmys.
4/3/2014 10:35:42 AM EDT
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I think it's a cultural thing. We Americans see 21 as some magical threshold in behavior and development. I've seen "adults" that act constantly in a irresponsible manner when they have alcohol in them.

My opinion, if you serve your country should be served at a bar.

4/3/2014 10:39:25 AM EDT
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Well, not only that, we put alcohol up on a pedestal too.

You tell kids they can't have it and that it's bad, and then one magical day it's suddenly okay, and as expected people binge on it.

It seems that all the kids that never had alcohol growing up turned into raging party animals after high school, some calmed down and some just kept partying. The kids that partied a bit had already outgrown alcohol and most of my drinking buddies (myself included) now have families and never touch the stuff except special occasions.
4/3/2014 10:41:08 AM EDT
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Well, not only that, we put alcohol up on a pedestal too.

You tell kids they can't have it and that it's bad, and then one magical day it's suddenly okay, and as expected people binge on it.

It seems that all the kids that never had alcohol growing up turned into raging party animals after high school, some calmed down and some just kept partying. The kids that partied a bit had already outgrown alcohol and most of my drinking buddies (myself included) now have families and never touch the stuff except special occasions.
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I think it's a cultural thing. We Americans see 21 as some magical threshold in behavior and development. I've seen "adults" that act constantly in a irresponsible manner when they have alcohol in them.

My opinion, if you serve your country should be served at a bar.



Well, not only that, we put alcohol up on a pedestal too.

You tell kids they can't have it and that it's bad, and then one magical day it's suddenly okay, and as expected people binge on it.

It seems that all the kids that never had alcohol growing up turned into raging party animals after high school, some calmed down and some just kept partying. The kids that partied a bit had already outgrown alcohol and most of my drinking buddies (myself included) now have families and never touch the stuff except special occasions.


Exactly


4/3/2014 10:42:03 AM EDT
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Have you ever seen a bunch of 18-20 year old soldiers drunk. They are as bad or worse than 18-20 year old college students.
4/3/2014 10:47:02 AM EDT
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I still say we can fix this by not allowing anyone under 21 to enlist.

At least by that time kids have had a couple years of life after high school to get an idea of if they want to be cannon fodder or not.
4/3/2014 10:50:05 AM EDT
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How many of the Soldiers (the under aged ones) are going to find a way to get alcohol anyway? Because somehow they will.

I sure as shit did when I was an under aged Sailor.
4/3/2014 10:51:49 AM EDT
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One American exchange student I met here was like:

'Holy shit they serve alcohol in college !' he was shoked that the university itself actually holds formal celebrations were alcohol is served to the students.

I on the other hand would gladly trade alcohol with the ability to legally keep a firearm in the home for lawful self defence .
4/3/2014 10:55:02 AM EDT
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MOMMY!!!  IT'S NOT FAAAAAAIIIIIRRRRRR!!!!
4/3/2014 10:57:01 AM EDT
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You ARE allowed to drink alcohol, if supervised by your mom or dad.

So really, it is just like the military.  
4/3/2014 10:58:23 AM EDT
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How many of the Soldiers (the under aged ones) are going to find a way to get alcohol anyway? Because somehow they will.

I sure as shit did when I was an under aged Sailor.
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Have you ever seen a bunch of 18-20 year old soldiers drunk. They are as bad or worse than 18-20 year old college students.



How many of the Soldiers (the under aged ones) are going to find a way to get alcohol anyway? Because somehow they will.

I sure as shit did when I was an under aged Sailor.


I wasn't commenting on whether they were going to get alcohol or not, I was commenting on how most 18-20 year olds act when they consume alcohol
4/3/2014 11:00:05 AM EDT
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If "they" took it that seriously "they" would make it harder to get booze.
4/3/2014 11:07:29 AM EDT
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The voting age should be 21, but that hurts Democrats.
4/3/2014 11:21:30 AM EDT
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the people who ask this question usually haven't had much exposure to the effects of alcohol on young people.  quite simply, at 18, most kids have no real conception of consequences, and act that way.  they just haven't spent enough time outside of children's structures (parents' house, secondary school) to get a real understanding of how they can wreck their lives or others' lives.



things are a little better at age 21.  not much better, but some.




and this is coming from a guy who has been known to accidentally spill some bourbon into a young serviceman's iced tea, so that he's not the only stone sober guy in the bunch.  with the right structure and understanding in place, an 18-year-old can moderate his own drinking pretty well.  but take that structure away, and things can go to hell really quickly.
4/3/2014 11:29:04 AM EDT
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If you were/ are in the military you wouldn't feel this way.



Unless you were 17 - 20 years old.
4/3/2014 11:30:23 AM EDT
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THIS
4/3/2014 11:32:35 AM EDT
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sometimes I wiggle my toes in my boots cause it feels funny