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4/11/2014 8:37:09 AM EDT
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Since the movie was released and the book is being published I wonder if his image will finally be tarnished?

My first job out of college was to build a dossier on Cesar and his brother. I was in the fields with Cesar and his strikers for a year. Among other things, my investigation showed Cesar and his brother were implicated in a homicide, but no charges were ever filed. There were numerous other crimes that would land you or me in prison, but not Cesar.

Over the years here in Arizona many groups favoring open borders and citizenship for illegals have used the Chavez image as a standard for the injustice they claim. The reality is Cesar hated illegals and wanted the borders closed. He saw illegals as taking away jobs from Americans of Latino descent (of which I am one).
4/11/2014 8:38:12 AM EDT
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I love his salads.
4/11/2014 8:39:53 AM EDT
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Hard to tell without cutting his head off.
4/11/2014 8:40:34 AM EDT
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He got my dog to stop shitting in the house.

Tell us more about this dossier.
4/11/2014 8:41:19 AM EDT
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if that is the standard for 'rabid racist' then everyone that harbors anti-illegal immigrant sentiments is a rabid racist.

i see what you did there.
4/11/2014 8:41:35 AM EDT
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Since the movie was released and the book is being published I wonder if his image will finally be tarnished?





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Wonder no longer.

I have not seen the movie, nor will I ever actually see it; but still, I can tell you, he will walk on water, and be the second coming of FBHO.



 
4/11/2014 8:41:41 AM EDT
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Ever seen his palace?
4/11/2014 8:43:39 AM EDT
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Ever seen his palace?
The Vegas one?  Yeah, it is pretty trashy.

 
4/11/2014 8:45:59 AM EDT
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I'd also like to know, but I'm sure this shitpile will be just like Che and Mandela!

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Ever seen his palace?
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Did he actually live there?
4/11/2014 8:49:20 AM EDT
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The reality is Cesar hated illegals and wanted the borders closed. He saw illegals as taking away jobs from Americans of Latino descent (of which I am one).
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Chavez himself was a third generation American citizen and a Navy veteran.

in his prime he was an ardent opponent of illegal immigration and actively fought against the importation of strikebreakers from Mexico.


Ceasar calls them Wetbacks Vid


4/11/2014 8:51:23 AM EDT
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By definition, community organizers, civil rights activists, and union leaders are rabid racists.

So, yes.

Cesar Chavez actively worked to harm people because of their race.
4/11/2014 8:53:24 AM EDT
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What would you like to know about the dossier? For starters, there were people who were concerned about this guy and the issues he was creating. I was one of many investigators sent to develop information on political figures. We basically gathered information ranging from background, criminal history to sexual behavior.

The information was gathered and sent East. How the information was used was not up to me. This is the first time I have ever mentioned the assignment. Enough time has past that nearly everyone I was working is long dead.

It was a job. I had no personal interest in the guy but I did the job to the best of my ability. I'm sure if the tables had been turned he would have done the same.
4/11/2014 8:55:24 AM EDT
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Ever seen his palace?
The Vegas one?  Yeah, it is pretty trashy.  


Did he actually live there?



The receptionist in The Hangover said it wasn't.
4/11/2014 9:00:32 AM EDT
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I figure it boils down to this in 2014.





Much like Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Malcom X, the myth & legend far exceed the facts.  Those who believe the myth will not tolerate the intrusion of fact.

 
4/11/2014 9:01:09 AM EDT
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What would you like to know about the dossier? For starters, there were people who were concerned about this guy and the issues he was creating. I was one of many investigators sent to develop information on political figures. We basically gathered information ranging from background, criminal history to sexual behavior.

The information was gathered and sent East. How the information was used was not up to me. This is the first time I have ever mentioned the assignment. Enough time has past that nearly everyone I was working is long dead.

It was a job. I had no personal interest in the guy but I did the job to the best of my ability. I'm sure if the tables had been turned he would have done the same.
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Hoover keeping tabs?
4/11/2014 9:03:02 AM EDT
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4/11/2014 9:08:04 AM EDT
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Ever seen his palace?
The Vegas one?  Yeah, it is pretty trashy.  


Did he actually live there?


Don't be obtuse. That's obviously where they make the dressing.
4/11/2014 9:10:37 AM EDT
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He had alot in common with alot of people on arfcom, politically.


No, that ain't even hyperbole either.

Personally, I think he was a communist piece of shit.
4/11/2014 9:16:31 AM EDT
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Growing up in Arizona, it has always been "common knowledge" that Cesar Chavez was a union activist, not a "Chicano" activist and generally opposed illegal immigration because it depressed wages for USC farm workers.

Now I see him being reinvented as a racial leader, anybody have any links to sources where he talks about immigration?
4/11/2014 9:17:28 AM EDT
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if that is the standard for 'rabid racist' then everyone that harbors anti-illegal immigrant sentiments is a rabid racist.

i see what you did there.
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if that is the standard for 'rabid racist' then everyone that harbors anti-illegal immigrant sentiments is a rabid racist.

i see what you did there.



To Amnesty supporters, that does make you racist! Just like if you don't support government hand outs you are a racist, and if you are a conservative, you are a racist, bascally, if you disagree with the left, you are a racist.