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Posted: 9/30/2001 6:18:52 PM EST
Trying to decide on one of these for my M4. Any suggestions and reasons for same would be appreciated. Thanks!
Link Posted: 9/30/2001 6:28:21 PM EST
Cant advise which one to buy. I have the phantom on a colt 16 carbine. Good luck....
Link Posted: 9/30/2001 6:46:59 PM EST
Had a phantom too, wanted to try a vortex but read of to many junk ones breaking prongs. Can anyone tell me which one is the good one?
Link Posted: 9/30/2001 6:50:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2001 6:50:09 PM EST by CIB]
Smith makes the original and best Vortex. As to which is best? I've heard the Vortex is best from some,and the Phantom is best from others. Both should be excellent, so just buy the one that suits your fancy.
Link Posted: 9/30/2001 6:58:12 PM EST
I've got both. On a scale of 1-10 I'd rate them as Vortex a 10, and the Phantom as a 9. Be sure to get the true Smith Enterprises Vortex.
Link Posted: 9/30/2001 7:08:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2001 7:46:08 PM EST
Go with the phantom. The vortex does have a problem when doing rapid fires.
Link Posted: 9/30/2001 7:56:49 PM EST
I like the phantom...it also looks better...just my 2cents medcop
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 12:54:40 AM EST
I prefer the Phantom over a Vortex.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 2:49:59 AM EST
Go with the phantom.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 3:16:59 AM EST
Years ago my friends M4/vortex blew off a tine. He sent it back to Bushmaster and the next time we were rapid firing, it blew apart again. I had a vortex on mine and never had a problem. I think Bushy had a bad batch. Now I use the Phantom.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 3:21:18 AM EST
New to ARs. Just got mine a week ago, so don't bust me to bad. What is a Phantom/Vortex?
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 3:28:07 AM EST
Seeing as you're a fellow Michigander I'll spare you the dumb references to Super heroes and vacuums. They're flash suppressors.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 2:38:23 PM EST
You should be able to tell the fake from the real Vortex. The fakes I have seen were too big and would allow the bayonet ring to fit. Also the offset twist of the tines were much less pronounced.
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 2:40:31 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 2:41:03 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 4:00:55 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2001 10:55:24 PM EST
I've never seen any Vortex with the parallel grooves along the entire device. Is that a new feature?
Link Posted: 10/2/2001 12:13:45 AM EST
I have also heard that the last pronounced groove on the vortex is there for a piece of wire to go around so the prongs on the vortex don't make a tuning fork noise after being fired. Personally if that were a big deal to me I'd skip the Vortex for the Phantom. Who wants wire hanging off their muzzle. KISS Also, if you did happen to get a little branch or something in the middle of the vortex, unless you torqued the wire down really hard, the branch would probably get stuck anyway *shrug* Just get what you think looks better unless you really want that extra 5% muzzle flash to be diminished with the vortex ( and possibly also hearing a twang noise ).
Link Posted: 10/2/2001 12:50:37 AM EST
I have a question for anyone who might be able to answer. How much of a performance difference is there between the phantom, and vortex, compared to a standard birdcage? I was thinking of getting one of these 2 (vortex or phantom) but am not really sure how much a true difference it makes other than aesthetics. Anybody know by chance?
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