[ARCHIVED THREAD] - US News Blog Reporting Romney Is Out (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 8/27/2008 8:26:36 PM EDT
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Take everything with a grain of salt... Out of those either of the women over Lieberman if those truly are the three. We shall see. Around 34 hours until we know. |
I'll still pull the handle for McCain even if he does... I can't very well say I won't support him if he picks a VP I don't like. Hell I've been pushing for people to vote for him to keep Obama out, holds just as true if he has Lieberman on the ticket as if he had Sanford. Obama must be defeated at the polls... whatever it takes, whomever the VP candidate is... but I'll know first hand what the McCain haters here have felt. |
hence I linked it as take it with a grain of salt... I'm not buying it either, but its out there and I figured people should know what is being said. I believe all three of those names are on the list, I'm not sure Romney is out though and I'm guessing there are a couple names in addition to these. |
Lieberman would be a bolder move but would piss off the conservatives... so the question is do you pull enough dems and moderates to overcome the lost conservatives? My guess is you actually do. It would be historic, and there is no baggage with the primary comments and slams like there are with Romney. I respect Lieberman, but I don't agree with him most of the time. |
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If John makes a good decisio-we win. If he doesn't, then the conservatives will toast his butt. Let's hope that he make a great choice, because frankly, he *may* not make it through the 4-year term. He's not young, and the VP will be closely scrutinized for POTUS fitness. HH |
+1. No matter who he picks really, it's still relatively better than the alternative.... I guess. 
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| I want Sanford, and the fact that DU doesn't even mention his name means he isn't on the dem radar and probably has not been the subject of a ton of opposition research to date. That means any attacks at first will be relatively weak and we get to define him for the nation. |
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Lieberman means McCain wants to lose and I will help him. Robert Novak on Lieberman: "Lieberman...aside from the war, votes the straight liberal line [including a lifetime of NRA "F's"  ], including pro-choice on abortion. Lieberman's Republican friend told him that the Republicans would leave Minnesota in a state of disarray with a McCain-Lieberman ticket, alienating social conservatives who now make up the core of Republican voters." |
Several million pissed off PUMAs, and solidifies the base. It's hard for anyone to hate on Kay Bailey. |
I do have to laugh at people who think conservatives are the core or base of the Republican party. We aren't. We are an important component of the party, we need to be respected and the VP should represent us... but we aren't what we used to be. We used to define the party and McCain would never have gotten the nomination if we still held the sway we did 30 years ago. I hope we get it back. We need a young conservative governor as his running mate so even if they don't win they are seasoned for the future. I hope and pray its not Lieberman or Romney. 
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+1 Check out this record: www.ontheissues.org/senate/Kay_Bailey_Hutchison.htm I, personally, find very little there that I disagree with. |
Very true. She's a true Conservative, a great lady, and very eloquent. She would bring in a lot of female voters, a lot of undecided voters who like her personality, and would help bring die hard Conservatives back to the table. However, I don't think she'll be the choice. |
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The rhino-in-chief is trying awfully hard to lose this election. Even though casting a vote in the piece of shit state that I call home is a complete and utter waste of time, I'll hold my nose and vote for McCain. No matter how bad, I know the alternative will be far worse. The problem is that many others will refuse to play that game. Lieberman or Whitman will be the final poke in the eye to millions of the Republican base who are just looking for the straw to break the camels back. They will sit home and the much worse alternative, the Chosen One, will assume his throne. Meg Whitman, for those that don't recognize the name, runs eBay. You know, that pro-gun online auction business.
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| good. I hated Romney and his fake conservative dog and pony show. He was nothing more than a gussied up Massachusetts liberal who realized he couldn't play liberal enough to be taken seriously in the north east, so decided to pretend to be conservative instead. His whole act came off as desperate and phony and I'm still shocked as to how many people actually bought into his phony bullshit |
yea people that are posting about Lieberman need to check out his voting record first. [:// Having said that. I will still vote for McCain but please...do not let it be Lieberman ETA he does support the war effort and I applaud him for that but the other 95% of his voting record is against everything I support. |
she is a little long in the tooth, but that is pretty much my only real criticism of her. She is in her late 60s I believe and it would be nice to have someone young and charismatic to groom for the future. A nice anecdote about her. I know a woman in Texas, she is disabled and in her 60s. She pretty much sits at home due to her illness and living on a very meager fixed income. Her only recreation was she played on-line video games. Unlimited play for $15 a month is hard to beat when you are broke. She lived on that game... we got to know each other in chat during raids and became buddies. She disappeared for a few days and I got worried, she logged in one night and asked if I could call her since she knew I worked in government and politics. Her son was a freelance cameraman that worked on the show Cops. He got shot in one episode. Since he did not work for the production company he was not covered by their insurance and she was getting a run around in obtaining the treatment he needed... he was in a coma for a few days I believe. She asked what she could do. I've never met Ms. Hutchinson but I got her number and gave it to my friend and told her to call and speaking to her chief of staff. Her chief of staff listened for 10 minutes and said can I put you on hold for a second. A minute later Ms. Hutchinson came on the phone and asked her to tell her story. What she did next blew me away. She made some calls, found a corporate jet that was flying to the city where he was, arranged a seat on the flight for her and sent her car to take her to the airport, put her up in a hotel and made sure her son got the treatment he needed. That is going above and beyond... so, from what I know, she seems like a very good person. |
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Like I said, it's hard to hate on a Senator like this. She would make the ticket TOUGH AS HELL to beat. |
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Hey, www.miamiherald.com/979/story/660701.html Florida poll: Mitt Romney, not Crist, helps McCain TALLAHASSEE -- Joe Biden's barely a blip. Mitt Romney's more of a hit. Gov. Charlie Crist should stay where he is. And Joe Lieberman should go away. That's all according to Mason-Dixon Polling & Research's latest Florida voter survey gauging the vice presidential picks and possibilities in the presidential race. The poll shows the race is almost dead-even: 45 percent favor Barack Obama and 44 percent favor Republican John McCain. Obama's decision to pick Delaware Sen. Biden on Saturday as a running mate doesn't seem to have done much for the ticket. The poll shows that those who said Biden would make them either more or less inclined to vote Democrat almost canceled each other out, while 64 percent of likely voters said the pick made no difference. Not so for Romney. About 32 percent of respondents said they'd favor McCain if he picked Romney. That's double the number of those who said they'd be less inclined to back the ticket. Only 17 percent said they wanted Crist on the ticket. ''People like Charlie Crist where he is, in the governor's mansion. They know Romney, who campaigned hard in this state,'' said Mason-Dixon pollster Brad Coker. ``Romney looks like he gives McCain more of an edge than Biden gives Obama.'' But Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman looks toxic to the ticket. Nearly twice as many people said they'd be less likely to vote for McCain if the former Democrat were on the ticket. Many Democrats see the former vice presidential candidate of 2000 as a turncoat. Conservative Republicans can't stand his abortion-rights record. ''Lieberman's luster has faded,'' Coker said. McCain will probably make his pick Friday. Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin barely registered responses in the poll, which didn't include the name of former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge. The poll shows that South Florida favors Obama the most, where he leads 53-37 -- almost the reverse of the numbers favoring McCain in North Florida. McCain also has a slight lead in the crucial Central Florida I-4 corridor, which is often the decider of the statewide elections. The virtual tie in the race, though, is doubly good news for Obama. It should make McCain nervous because he needs to win Florida more than the Democrat due to the vagaries of the election map. And recent polls have shown Obama was slipping after making up major ground in Florida by blitzing the state with more than $7 million in ads over two months. Also in Obama's favor: New voters, who have flocked to the party in eye-popping numbers. Most of them aren't showing up in the polls because they're so new to the rolls. Obama leads among independents, who favor him 48-42, according to the poll of 625 voters, which has an error-margin of four percentage points. The poll shows McCain has strong Republican support, at 78 percent, but that's not strong enough when compared to Jeb and George Bush, who consistently polled in the high 80s in Florida. In the Jan. 29 primary he barely lost to McCain, Romney won more conservative parts of the state. But McCain prevailed largely due to the last-minute endorsement of Crist and Hispanic support in Miami-Dade swung by Sen. Mel Martinez, Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and the Diaz-Balart brothers, Lincoln and Mario. Romney's baggage: Some Christian conservatives are nervous about his Mormon religion. He also switched his position on abortion to ''pro-life'' before he ran for president. Romney frequently blasted McCain for knowing little about economics and acknowledging as much during the primary. Romney tried to dismiss his own attacks as election ''hyperbole'' when he appeared Wednesday on MSNBC's Morning Joe political forum. McCain's campaign this week released a Web advertisement recycling Hillary Clinton's primary attacks on Obama, whose campaign is ready to respond in turn with a Romney pick. Romney's big-business record was also the subject of scorn from fellow GOP candidate Mike Huckabee, who suggested blue-collar workers wouldn't want to vote for ``the guy who laid you off.'' Many Republicans, though, say a Romney pick is worth that risk. ''Romney should bring McCain some of those conservatives. And he could help with the economy,'' said Republican state Rep. Julio Robaina of Miami. ``But this is a close race." /end It's gonna be Romney. Kevin "It has to be." |
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AR15.com aside, have any of you bothered to read the comments there? All the stuff I've read that analyzes the impact says the same thing posted by Rarestrx. Most on the USNews board are very upset that Romney may be out - that may be a more accurate reflection of the populace than us here. Think about it - we're a board heavily biased in favor of evil-type gun owners, anti-MA/NY/CA/MD/DC, anti-Mormon, conservatism in general. We don't represent the widest swath of Americana. I don't like the guy's stance on guns, healthcare, and a few other things. He does bring economic cred to the ticket, and may be able to pull the soccer mom vote. He was a Republican governor of Massachusetts - a large state, showing executive experience both in and out of government. I think he could be made to toe the party line. Those of you who refuse to vote for McCain/Romney because he doesn't agree with everything you want, will be effectively voting for Obama. It's not sending a message other than you don't understand the de-facto 2 party system we have. It also sends the message that you don't care about Supreme Court appointments - those are crucial. Those of you who won't vote the ticket solely because Romney's LDS show that you are religious bigots - a xenophobia as distasteful and dull-minded, IMHO, as anti-semitism and racism. I lived in MA during his governance, and he was quite able to separate church and state... a feat apparently beyond the comprehension of some of our more backward-thinking members. I may not like Romney, but I'll vote for McCain even if Romney is in. Play chess, not checkers. McCain needs to pick the guy/gal that will get the best chances of sewing up the election. That may not be your person, but don't act like a petulant 3rd grader saying "Fine, I'll take my vote and go home since you picked Tommy instead of Billy. I Hate you!" |
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Oh I'll vote for the ticket if Romney is on it... but I don't want him on it. |
An NRA "F" rated democrat on the ticket and McCain simply will have gone too MF'ing far. I'll work and give cash directly to conservatives running for the House. The pro-Heller votes on SCOTUS will still be there in 4 years. The House Republicans will fight amnesty and will help redefine and renew all that was ever good about the R party while America gets a long 4 year lesson in how completely inept dems are. McCain can go too far. Lieberman will push me off the fence and into traitor elimination mode. I'm not voting conservatism into a permanent political gulag. A fighting chance down the road is better than turning the party totally over to traitors, who'll pass amnesty, appoint Souters to SCOTUS, and treat conservatives like pariahs. |
I don't even know what to say anymore. I feel like I've been beaten over the head with a bat.  I can't stand though to see Obama win. |
What concerns me about Romney is: 1) He's a complete empty suit, just like Obama... 2) Everything he campaigned on is FAKE.. NOT a conservative NO 'economic clout' The only thing he is good at, is bamboozling people into believing he's something other than what he really is... I DO NOT WANT THIS MAN GETTING ANY CLOSER TO THE PRESIDENCY THAN HE GOT IN THE PRIMARIES... MAKING HIM VP MEANS WE WILL BE STUCK WITH THE POS COME 2016 I could CARE LESS what religion he follows... |